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8. It is warfare. In self defense.

Sat May 17, 2025, 07:51 AM

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Show me a major military conflict in urban areas where an armed belligerent did not lay down arms or abandon a war zone that had a different outcome.

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Israel launches major offensive in Gaza after airstrikes that killed more than 100 [View all] muriel_volestrangler Saturday OP

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UN Human Rights Chief: "tantamount to ethnic cleansing" muriel_volestrangler Saturday #2

A fucking hyporite. Beastly Boy Saturday #7

Didn't Israel Eko Saturday #38

No. No it didn't. Beastly Boy Saturday #47

Here is some info from Israeli Newspapers IbogaProject Saturday #55

Does any of your sources contradich what I posted? Beastly Boy Saturday #58

Seems like they did. Eko Saturday #96

Do you ever read articles beyond headlines? I do. Most of the time. Beastly Boy Saturday #97

Ya I read the whole thing. Eko Saturday #104

I congrtulate you on reading the whole thing. Beastly Boy Yesterday #125

So, Eko Saturday #105

I have full confidence in you to find the fallacy imbedded in this question. Beastly Boy Yesterday #126

Ah, well, why dont you? Eko Yesterday #127

You mean the UN agency UNRWA - the lifeline for Palestinians - that Israel destroyed? AloeVera Saturday #103

Must be a different UNRWA. Beastly Boy Saturday #118

Yes, your UNRWA is a fantasy. AloeVera Saturday #120

Yes, an independently confirmed fantasy widely covered in the media as if it were fact-based. Their mistale. Beastly Boy Yesterday #123

Here you go. AloeVera Yesterday #144

Thank you. Very helpful indeed. Something that you previously called a fantasy being confirmed as fact Beastly Boy 23 hrs ago #146

Yup, your UNRWA is a fantasy. Eko 17 hrs ago #156

Disgusting claudette Saturday #3

Ain't that the truth? The influence of AIPAC and the other pro-Israeli lobbyists, as well as our historically.... FadedMullet Saturday #4

👍 claudette Saturday #5

It looks like Trump is giving it a serious rethink. Beastly Boy Saturday #9

Hezbollah mainains the largest non-state military in the WORLD. Mosby Saturday #32

More blah blah blah claudette Saturday #33

Hezbollah is the reason Israel needs US military aid to defend itself. Beastly Boy Saturday #48

I don't get the part where Israel is defending itself by killing women and children. Permanut Saturday #79

Do you get the part where Israel is defending itself against Hamas, the Houhtis, Islamic Jihad, Iran, and Syria? Beastly Boy Saturday #83

I Missed The Part About Blocking Food and Supplies to Women and Children in Mass Starvation DrFunkenstein Saturday #115

My question was about what you did get, not what you missed. Beastly Boy Yesterday #130

Egypt shares a border with Gaza cabotnn22 13 hrs ago #158

I've had distain for Netanyahoo for decades...but don't forget Israel's been... electric_blue68 Saturday #60

You're right. I should not have said Jews. I'm usually more careful in distinguishing between Israel's rabid right.... FadedMullet Saturday #74

It is warfare. In self defense. Beastly Boy Saturday #8

Why not drop in military personnel instead to raid the hospitals? cstanleytech Saturday #95

Drop them in where? Beastly Boy Saturday #98

Well there are other options than dropping them. cstanleytech Saturday #112

The questions remain: send them in where? Beastly Boy Yesterday #129

Well a good place to send them might be where they hit with the missiles perhaps?? cstanleytech Yesterday #132

The same targets they are hitting now except doing so not with a single strike but Beastly Boy Yesterday #136

Your last question is not really a good one since most of us don't know and that's why I'm asking my question. cstanleytech Yesterday #137

Well, your observation is exactly the reason my question is a good one. Beastly Boy Yesterday #139

I'm not proposing it. I'm simply wondering why they choose air strikes rather than ground troops. cstanleytech Yesterday #141

Your wondering contains a proposition for a ground assault. Beastly Boy Yesterday #143

Ahhh. Okay. Thanks for explaining your thoughts on why 🙂 cstanleytech 22 hrs ago #148

And, drum roll, supplying the weapons. twodogsbarking Saturday #14

Hamas needs to return the hostages. Mossfern Saturday #15

Israel is destroying Gaza and committing BuddhaGirl Saturday #17

So..... Mossfern Saturday #18

Ummm... electric_blue68 Saturday #68

It's UNRWA Beastly Boy Saturday #80

Thanks for posting this, I was napping Mossfern Saturday #94

They wanted to but Netanyahu broke the ceasefire. AloeVera Saturday #30

I could agree with what you are saying Mossfern Saturday #31

Do we need a solution to the whole issue before we can agree that this slaughter of civilians is wrong? AloeVera Saturday #35

No. We need to free the hostages. Beastly Boy Saturday #51

Bullshit. No one was stoping them from returning the hostages. Ever. Beastly Boy Saturday #49

Israel won't stop committing war crimes until the enemy capitulates? AloeVera Yesterday #140

Huh? Do you even hear what YOU are admitting to? Beastly Boy Yesterday #142

Willfully missing the point and putting words in my mouth to demonize me. Again. AloeVera Yesterday #145

The abhorrent premise behind your point makes it immaterial. Beastly Boy 23 hrs ago #147

A lesson in the art of.... AloeVera 21 hrs ago #152

"The Holy Land" Skittles Saturday #6

YES, and the religious right (MAGA rethugs) want this same shit bluestarone Saturday #106

Genocide in plain sight, Bayard Saturday #10

No need. The absurdity of the same old tired talking points is self-evident. Beastly Boy Saturday #11

Back at'cha! Bayard Saturday #62

If I had all the time in the world, I am sure I could have come up with a weaker response. Beastly Boy Saturday #69

I'm going to tell Mom! Bayard Saturday #73

Tired talking points and deflections fail to stop the slaughter. PufPuf23 Saturday #78

Religion nowforever Saturday #12

I'm all in. twodogsbarking Saturday #13

You are so correct ! kimbutgar Saturday #28

I'm sure that this is all Hamas' fault, and they can end it whenever they want Orrex Saturday #16

I don't know of any Bibi apologists here Mossfern Saturday #19

Maybe you can explain how murdering tens of thousands of civilians will free the hostages Orrex Saturday #21

I didn't say that I agree with the bombings -don't put words into my mouth Mossfern Saturday #24

What has HAMAs offered? MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #29

Yes, Palestinians should just stay in their "borders". AloeVera Saturday #70

Maybe you can explain how taking and holding the hostages will end civilian deaths. Beastly Boy Saturday #52

If one supports current Israeli activities in Gaza or the West Bank, one is a PufPuf23 Saturday #81

Are you saying that there are Bibi apologists here? MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #20

I asked that question here not too long ago Mossfern Saturday #25

Yeah, I remember that thread, MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #26

Obviously, any link to an apologist would get alerted on for calling them out muriel_volestrangler Saturday #34

I myself would never alert on such a post, although I do understand that it could be considered a call out, MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #36

You've got the cause and effect exactly reversed. Beastly Boy Saturday #56

Not really, you don't have to call out any DU poster, just point to the thread you think it happened in.. EX500rider Saturday #63

No need to point to threads, beyond those with "Gaza" in the title muriel_volestrangler Saturday #85

I see, so there are none? EX500rider Saturday #88

No, you don't see. muriel_volestrangler Saturday #89

Yep. They will have to live with the stink of genocide they supported. Hassin Bin Sober Saturday #110

Hold on. You just said there aren't any DUers who have ever done that? Violet_Crumble 15 hrs ago #157

You're asking me to call out DUers by name in violation of the TOS Orrex Saturday #39

I'm just as horrified by the carnage on both sides, MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #41

But that's just nonsense Orrex Saturday #43

Israel already had 10s of thousands of prisoners it held in prison w/o charges questionseverything Saturday #108

And don't you pretend that HAMAs invaded Israel, torturing, maiming, raping, murdering, kidnapping MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #111

But you see those people aren't "hostages". AloeVera Saturday #113

You will be hard pressed to find any DUers arguing in favor of the way the Netanyahu's government conducts the war Beastly Boy Saturday #61

Oh my God, I am so relieved! AloeVera Saturday #107

I am very happy for you. I hope you enjoyed it. Beastly Boy Yesterday #128

I do enjoy it. You do provide endless entertainment. AloeVera Yesterday #133

Of course you are not sure what I mean. You never were. Beastly Boy Yesterday #138

Careful... Hieronymus Phact Saturday #22

LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #23

Let's talk numbers. Orrex Saturday #40

"How many Palestinian civilians has Israel killed?" EX500rider Saturday #64

Isn't part of the problem that some of the IDF has done rogue things.. electric_blue68 Saturday #71

Right, right. Orrex Saturday #93

People's lives aren't numbers Hieronymus Phact Saturday #66

But slaughter of innocents is always wrong, right? AloeVera Saturday #84

I never implied otherwise Hieronymus Phact Saturday #102

The only people who ever make that "people aren't numbers" argument Orrex Saturday #90

You never answered Hieronymus Phact Saturday #109

I'm betting that you aren't really that naive. Orrex Saturday #117

I told you: not playing your numbers games Hieronymus Phact Yesterday #131

It's not a numbers game, and your question is pointless Orrex 21 hrs ago #149

After all that it's really all about you Hieronymus Phact 2 hrs ago #160

That's a preposterous comparison. Beastly Boy Saturday #67

While our illustrious press is concerned about Biden, the international news JohnSJ Saturday #27

That would be good news indeed if Netanyahu hadn't already said: AloeVera Saturday #37

Releasing the hostages and/or their remains couldn't hurt. Frasier Balzov Saturday #42

Right. But all along, that's been the claim. Orrex Saturday #44

If shaming Israel's cruelty is Hamas's objective Frasier Balzov Saturday #50

That's a lot of words to say "Palestinian children deserve to die en masse" Orrex Saturday #54

Islam asks us. Frasier Balzov Saturday #57

All religious justifications are bullshit, no exceptions. Orrex Saturday #59

I wish they would. AloeVera Saturday #45

What will stop this war . . . Richard D Saturday #46

In other words, it will never stop. Or until Palestinians are caged up in a dark hell-hole in Libya. AloeVera 21 hrs ago #150

Perhaps, perhaps not Richard D 2 hrs ago #159

Call me suspicious, but methinks your quote is fake. Beastly Boy Saturday #72

No. There isn't. N/T AloeVera Saturday #92

Seriously? Beastly Boy Saturday #99

She's being quite transparent in defending HAMAs and vilifying Israel. MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #134

Well, well, well, lookee here... AloeVera 20 hrs ago #153

Congrartulations! You found a BBC reporter who editorialized the hell out of what Netanyahu said. Beastly Boy 18 hrs ago #155

"Operation Gideon's Chariots" LudwigPastorius Saturday #53

Yes, indeed. Netanyahu doesn't have to "trust in God's power" because he has 1000 pound bombs and fighter jets. FadedMullet Saturday #75

With 2000 pound bombs, who even needs God anymore? AloeVera Saturday #77

The odd thing is that in the early Bible, the only people with chariots are the baddies muriel_volestrangler Saturday #87

I don't follow Israel/Palestinians/Arabs issues That closely but I have been off & on for decades. This comment from... electric_blue68 Saturday #65

That's not what he said. I noted it earlier. Beastly Boy Saturday #76

"Making sure this never happens again is THE goal." LudwigPastorius Saturday #119

You may be confusing cause and effect. Beastly Boy Yesterday #135

Yes, well the Israelis have only been trying it that way for over half a century. LudwigPastorius 21 hrs ago #151

Trying what? The Israelis have been trying many thubgs for over half a century. Beastly Boy 20 hrs ago #154

The hostages and Oct 7 provided the pretext to achieve hidden goals. AloeVera Saturday #82

Yeah, blame the victims. Beastly Boy Saturday #86

Lol. I've been wondering the same about your side! AloeVera Saturday #91

Just to bring a glaring oxymoron in your statement to your attention: Beastly Boy Saturday #100

You misread or something. AloeVera Saturday #101

Or something. Beastly Boy Saturday #114

I faulted the hostages? AloeVera Saturday #116

Ummm... yeah! Beastly Boy Saturday #121

I'm sorry about your reading comprehension. AloeVera Saturday #122

I am almost tempted to apologize. Beastly Boy Yesterday #124