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57. Except this trial isn't happening in a vacuum

Fri Jul 21, 2023, 10:31 AM

Jul 2023

Trump's got a the NY AG civil trial set for Oct 2nd this year. The second E. Jean Carroll trial is set for January 2024. Granted he doesn't have to appear in person for either of these, but his lawyers do.

The Manhattan DA's trial date is March 2024 and Trump will have to be in court for that.

November and December are both impacted by the general holiday time off everyone wants to take between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 OP

She's made Trump safe. Delays will move that months forward. bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #1

This is exactly what we all should have expected. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #37

It doesn't matter how many times we beat him. He's not gonna stop running as long as he's alive.$$! Walleye Jul 2023 #42

I wouldn't expect anything else no matter who was judge Major Nikon Jul 2023 #71

Or a coronary event. docgee Jul 2023 #128

I hope DOJ gets this changed.... Historic NY Jul 2023 #2

how? getagrip_already Jul 2023 #20

Trump's legal calendar is already crowded Deminpenn Jul 2023 #39

don't forget the michael cohen case..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #43

As an update - Cohen literally just announced a settlement of his case today BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #108

Changed to get moved sooner? Polybius Jul 2023 #114

With the next round of Federal Indictments coming down. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2023 #3

Or he will not be too busy to campaign, because he will pretty much ignore the indictments. thesquanderer Jul 2023 #8

He can't ignore indictments, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #21

He has the right to be there, but as I understand it, he may not be obligated to be there, thesquanderer Jul 2023 #34

He can't dismiss state investigations or charges BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #75

Do any of the states recognize Presidential pardons when it comes to crimes at the State level? cstanleytech Jul 2023 #103

There is no connection between state or federal crimes BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #106

he will still have to appear in court for these trials..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #25

I don't think he's necessarily required to be present throughout the trial. n/t thesquanderer Jul 2023 #36

I believe a defendent in a federal criminal trial is required to be present..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #40

Who's they? In this case it would be Aileen Cannon, would it not? KPN Jul 2023 #90

they being the federal judiciary.... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #95

In federal trials, the defendent generally is required to be present GregariousGroundhog Jul 2023 #53

NOT on TV. Federal trials are not televised. wnylib Jul 2023 #65

unless the judge permits it, correct? getagrip_already Jul 2023 #67

No, the judge cannot permit it in a criminall trial. Only in a civil one. wnylib Jul 2023 #70

Donald Trump will never again be president. BComplex Jul 2023 #48

I hope you are right, but there is no guarantee that he won't. wnylib Jul 2023 #72

But the point is, he believes otherwise. n/t thesquanderer Jul 2023 #73

He believes he's 6'7".... MiHale Jul 2023 #100

I agree with you, I have been saying for a long time. Escurumbele Jul 2023 #93

Thank you! Bayard Jul 2023 #97

Minus the "again", that's what was said in 2016 JHB Jul 2023 #98

I know, JHB; but a whole lot of water has gone under the bridge since 2016. BComplex Jul 2023 #126

Will he need to campaign? wnylib Jul 2023 #61

if this doesn't upset Jack Smith then it shouldn't upset us,, agingdem Jul 2023 #69

Well, i guess he NOW has more time to bluestarone Jul 2023 #4

He and his lawyers will use the documents trial wnylib Jul 2023 #68

Hey judge, October is open...... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #81

You misunderstood what I meant. wnylib Jul 2023 #86

No, I understood it..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #88

"the Florida trial being used as an excuse to delay other trials." BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #94

Of course Cannon has no control over what happens wnylib Jul 2023 #101

45's lawyers have argued plenty of nonsense to that D.C. court BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #110

Insane. There will never be a trial with this judge. Freethinker65 Jul 2023 #5

This judge? former9thward Jul 2023 #28

Yes, this judge, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #49

Actually she was not "admonished" if you read the decision. former9thward Jul 2023 #55

By that time most primary elections will have been completed Raven123 Jul 2023 #6

Trump will have the nomination sewed up by then. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #18

Good. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2023 #99

She'll use that as the reason to drop newdayneeded Jul 2023 #134

Smith may appeal. Doesn't mess around. nt wiggs Jul 2023 #7

Appeal what? former9thward Jul 2023 #31

Even if there was a ground for appeal here, which there is not Effete Snob Jul 2023 #92

I think this is good news forthemiddle Jul 2023 #9

I respect your opinion but totally disagree with it. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #12

+++. The Georgia, January 6th, and other trials will be held and decided before the documents JohnSJ Jul 2023 #23

I wouldn't take that long with a different judge. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #30

Another judge would have said no to jack smith asking for a four month delay jimfields33 Jul 2023 #51

He won't be the nominee untill the convention, no matter how locked up it is...... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #33

Just curious. Why do you think that Republicans would even look for a replacement? Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #19

There will be enough time for a replace if he's found guilty before October 1 Polybius Jul 2023 #116

Just imagine what the right wing narrative will be, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #10

It will be plastered all over the msm, but what will be plastered is the evidence and narrative .... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #35

The media was going to do that anyway, though. yardwork Jul 2023 #85

My one great concern over this timing Otto_Harper Jul 2023 #11

Absolutely, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #14

The high point of your point is the fact that Trump will have free campaign time on national TeeVee. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #46

I still think the federal case will disappear PSPS Jul 2023 #13

It may be postponed until after the election, that is my take. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #15

Breaking: Mar-a-Lago documents case to begin May 20, 2024 LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #16

I suspect there will be other trials that will be started and even determined before this even JohnSJ Jul 2023 #17

Talk about picking a day between Dec. 2023 and Nov. 2024 ... aggiesal Jul 2023 #22

"Jack Smith said that the trial should only take 21 days" ancianita Jul 2023 #26

It was in his court filing Deminpenn Jul 2023 #32

Okay, thank you. I'll check that out. ancianita Jul 2023 #45

To be clear, Smith meant 21 days after all the preliminary preparations Fiendish Thingy Jul 2023 #60

For sure. Thanks. ancianita Jul 2023 #63

Actually the date was august 2023. Jack requested December. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #56

They would have to schedule a courtroom too (plus the judge's schedule) BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #64

But before the actual trial with sworn testimony begins, wnylib Jul 2023 #77

5 weeks puts it in early June, 21 days later ... aggiesal Jul 2023 #80

The specific date in May has been given. It is May 20, 2024 wnylib Jul 2023 #83

Then I pick the date of 7/22/2024 ... aggiesal Jul 2023 #87

She split it down the middle, GreenWave Jul 2023 #120

That's no middle ground, imo. ancianita Jul 2023 #24

Keep putting your finger on that scale of justice Loose Banana Cannon Aviation Pro Jul 2023 #27

Trump's lawyers must be apoplectic Deminpenn Jul 2023 #29

They'll delay this past the 2024 election. SergeStorms Jul 2023 #38

The South Florida Circuit is the "Rocket Docket" and this flies in the face of that BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #44

Except this trial isn't happening in a vacuum Deminpenn Jul 2023 #57

Oh I know about all the trials BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #62

Not every case warrants "rocket docket" treatment onenote Jul 2023 #118

I get that and mentioned in the post just above BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #122

I have to disagree Deminpenn Jul 2023 #47

So much for the 70 day Rocket Docket law. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #52

You clearly don't understand the Speedy Trial Act. onenote Jul 2023 #121

Thanks. You've convinced me. ancianita Jul 2023 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Jul 2023 #78

To quote Senator Sheev Palpatine: RedSpartan Jul 2023 #41

Perfect timing Fiendish Thingy Jul 2023 #50

I like your optimism. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #54

Yep. ancianita Jul 2023 #66

Yep, it also give all the magats plenty of time to make him their candidate, too. sybylla Jul 2023 #91

Brava! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #113

Slow walking the Rocket Docket. sarcasmo Jul 2023 #58

+1 peppertree Jul 2023 #123

Not sure what you think the 'rocket docket' is. onenote Jul 2023 #133

"May 2024 is a very reasonable, perhaps a bit fast, trial date for Trump's case." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #74

Good to see Popehat move to Mastodon! BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #76

He's been there several months. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #79

Good morning (in the 4 minutes left of it that there is) to you! BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #89

Thanks - a professional lawyer opinion is good to know on this (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #107

Traitor Cannon gets started on her destroy America tour. lark Jul 2023 #82

How important will be trump's VP selection? 3825-87867 Jul 2023 #84

there is nothing in the constitution that says you cant hold office as a convicted felon drray23 Jul 2023 #105

"there is nothing in the constitution that says you cant hold office as a convicted felon" BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #119

Unsurprising Fresh Water Falling Jul 2023 #96

Moving the documents case to the back-burner will give Smith with an advantage in the Jan-6 case. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #102

Why is the handling of classified documents during the trial so difficult that it requires delay? ECL213 Jul 2023 #104

Not a lawyer, I take it. onenote Jul 2023 #117

Actually I am, though I do not practice criminal law... ECL213 Jul 2023 #124

Of course it is about the documents. onenote Jul 2023 #125

Smith is the one who asked for the December trial date. ECL213 Jul 2023 #127

As you acknowledge, even Smith recognized the need to give the defense time to prepare onenote Jul 2023 #131

Hey, great guess. ECL213 Jul 2023 #135

I don't think that the trail will ever happen. The play book "delay" and a judge to help. republianmushroom Jul 2023 #109

Thank you MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #111

Jack Smith requested a December start. SergeStorms Jul 2023 #129

this trial date llashram Jul 2023 #112

Tough luck Donny boy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 #115

Once he's charged and trial is set Marthe48 Jul 2023 #130

Charges were brought too early. The Grand Illuminist Jul 2023 #132