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jaxexpat

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37. This is exactly what we all should have expected.

Fri Jul 21, 2023, 10:12 AM

Jul 2023

You're at least 60% right. But the fact remains there's a better than even chance Trump will skate on this like he's skated on everything else in his entire misbegotten life.

Delusions Democrats are fond of:
>We all saw it on live TeeVee, Trump will never beat this insurrection rap.
>He tried to extort the Georgis AG into creating 1200 fake votes for him on a recorded call, got him dead to rights.
>His indictment will totally derail his election campaign and bring him to justice.
>The classified documents scandal will sink him for sure, and quickly.
>Special Council Smith will SAVE THE DAY!
>The justice system is deliberately slow so as to be thorough and that's okay.

There's only one sure thing which will stop Trump, a super-majority in both houses of congress.

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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 OP

She's made Trump safe. Delays will move that months forward. bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #1

This is exactly what we all should have expected. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #37

It doesn't matter how many times we beat him. He's not gonna stop running as long as he's alive.$$! Walleye Jul 2023 #42

I wouldn't expect anything else no matter who was judge Major Nikon Jul 2023 #71

Or a coronary event. docgee Jul 2023 #128

I hope DOJ gets this changed.... Historic NY Jul 2023 #2

how? getagrip_already Jul 2023 #20

Trump's legal calendar is already crowded Deminpenn Jul 2023 #39

don't forget the michael cohen case..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #43

As an update - Cohen literally just announced a settlement of his case today BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #108

Changed to get moved sooner? Polybius Jul 2023 #114

With the next round of Federal Indictments coming down. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2023 #3

Or he will not be too busy to campaign, because he will pretty much ignore the indictments. thesquanderer Jul 2023 #8

He can't ignore indictments, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #21

He has the right to be there, but as I understand it, he may not be obligated to be there, thesquanderer Jul 2023 #34

He can't dismiss state investigations or charges BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #75

Do any of the states recognize Presidential pardons when it comes to crimes at the State level? cstanleytech Jul 2023 #103

There is no connection between state or federal crimes BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #106

he will still have to appear in court for these trials..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #25

I don't think he's necessarily required to be present throughout the trial. n/t thesquanderer Jul 2023 #36

I believe a defendent in a federal criminal trial is required to be present..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #40

Who's they? In this case it would be Aileen Cannon, would it not? KPN Jul 2023 #90

they being the federal judiciary.... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #95

In federal trials, the defendent generally is required to be present GregariousGroundhog Jul 2023 #53

NOT on TV. Federal trials are not televised. wnylib Jul 2023 #65

unless the judge permits it, correct? getagrip_already Jul 2023 #67

No, the judge cannot permit it in a criminall trial. Only in a civil one. wnylib Jul 2023 #70

Donald Trump will never again be president. BComplex Jul 2023 #48

I hope you are right, but there is no guarantee that he won't. wnylib Jul 2023 #72

But the point is, he believes otherwise. n/t thesquanderer Jul 2023 #73

He believes he's 6'7".... MiHale Jul 2023 #100

I agree with you, I have been saying for a long time. Escurumbele Jul 2023 #93

Thank you! Bayard Jul 2023 #97

Minus the "again", that's what was said in 2016 JHB Jul 2023 #98

I know, JHB; but a whole lot of water has gone under the bridge since 2016. BComplex Jul 2023 #126

Will he need to campaign? wnylib Jul 2023 #61

if this doesn't upset Jack Smith then it shouldn't upset us,, agingdem Jul 2023 #69

Well, i guess he NOW has more time to bluestarone Jul 2023 #4

He and his lawyers will use the documents trial wnylib Jul 2023 #68

Hey judge, October is open...... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #81

You misunderstood what I meant. wnylib Jul 2023 #86

No, I understood it..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #88

"the Florida trial being used as an excuse to delay other trials." BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #94

Of course Cannon has no control over what happens wnylib Jul 2023 #101

45's lawyers have argued plenty of nonsense to that D.C. court BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #110

Insane. There will never be a trial with this judge. Freethinker65 Jul 2023 #5

This judge? former9thward Jul 2023 #28

Yes, this judge, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #49

Actually she was not "admonished" if you read the decision. former9thward Jul 2023 #55

By that time most primary elections will have been completed Raven123 Jul 2023 #6

Trump will have the nomination sewed up by then. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #18

Good. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2023 #99

She'll use that as the reason to drop newdayneeded Jul 2023 #134

Smith may appeal. Doesn't mess around. nt wiggs Jul 2023 #7

Appeal what? former9thward Jul 2023 #31

Even if there was a ground for appeal here, which there is not Effete Snob Jul 2023 #92

I think this is good news forthemiddle Jul 2023 #9

I respect your opinion but totally disagree with it. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #12

+++. The Georgia, January 6th, and other trials will be held and decided before the documents JohnSJ Jul 2023 #23

I wouldn't take that long with a different judge. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #30

Another judge would have said no to jack smith asking for a four month delay jimfields33 Jul 2023 #51

He won't be the nominee untill the convention, no matter how locked up it is...... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #33

Just curious. Why do you think that Republicans would even look for a replacement? Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #19

There will be enough time for a replace if he's found guilty before October 1 Polybius Jul 2023 #116

Just imagine what the right wing narrative will be, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #10

It will be plastered all over the msm, but what will be plastered is the evidence and narrative .... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #35

The media was going to do that anyway, though. yardwork Jul 2023 #85

My one great concern over this timing Otto_Harper Jul 2023 #11

Absolutely, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #14

The high point of your point is the fact that Trump will have free campaign time on national TeeVee. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #46

I still think the federal case will disappear PSPS Jul 2023 #13

It may be postponed until after the election, that is my take. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #15

Breaking: Mar-a-Lago documents case to begin May 20, 2024 LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #16

I suspect there will be other trials that will be started and even determined before this even JohnSJ Jul 2023 #17

Talk about picking a day between Dec. 2023 and Nov. 2024 ... aggiesal Jul 2023 #22

"Jack Smith said that the trial should only take 21 days" ancianita Jul 2023 #26

It was in his court filing Deminpenn Jul 2023 #32

Okay, thank you. I'll check that out. ancianita Jul 2023 #45

To be clear, Smith meant 21 days after all the preliminary preparations Fiendish Thingy Jul 2023 #60

For sure. Thanks. ancianita Jul 2023 #63

Actually the date was august 2023. Jack requested December. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #56

They would have to schedule a courtroom too (plus the judge's schedule) BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #64

But before the actual trial with sworn testimony begins, wnylib Jul 2023 #77

5 weeks puts it in early June, 21 days later ... aggiesal Jul 2023 #80

The specific date in May has been given. It is May 20, 2024 wnylib Jul 2023 #83

Then I pick the date of 7/22/2024 ... aggiesal Jul 2023 #87

She split it down the middle, GreenWave Jul 2023 #120

That's no middle ground, imo. ancianita Jul 2023 #24

Keep putting your finger on that scale of justice Loose Banana Cannon Aviation Pro Jul 2023 #27

Trump's lawyers must be apoplectic Deminpenn Jul 2023 #29

They'll delay this past the 2024 election. SergeStorms Jul 2023 #38

The South Florida Circuit is the "Rocket Docket" and this flies in the face of that BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #44

Except this trial isn't happening in a vacuum Deminpenn Jul 2023 #57

Oh I know about all the trials BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #62

Not every case warrants "rocket docket" treatment onenote Jul 2023 #118

I get that and mentioned in the post just above BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #122

I have to disagree Deminpenn Jul 2023 #47

So much for the 70 day Rocket Docket law. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #52

You clearly don't understand the Speedy Trial Act. onenote Jul 2023 #121

Thanks. You've convinced me. ancianita Jul 2023 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Jul 2023 #78

To quote Senator Sheev Palpatine: RedSpartan Jul 2023 #41

Perfect timing Fiendish Thingy Jul 2023 #50

I like your optimism. gab13by13 Jul 2023 #54

Yep. ancianita Jul 2023 #66

Yep, it also give all the magats plenty of time to make him their candidate, too. sybylla Jul 2023 #91

Brava! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #113

Slow walking the Rocket Docket. sarcasmo Jul 2023 #58

+1 peppertree Jul 2023 #123

Not sure what you think the 'rocket docket' is. onenote Jul 2023 #133

"May 2024 is a very reasonable, perhaps a bit fast, trial date for Trump's case." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #74

Good to see Popehat move to Mastodon! BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #76

He's been there several months. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #79

Good morning (in the 4 minutes left of it that there is) to you! BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #89

Thanks - a professional lawyer opinion is good to know on this (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #107

Traitor Cannon gets started on her destroy America tour. lark Jul 2023 #82

How important will be trump's VP selection? 3825-87867 Jul 2023 #84

there is nothing in the constitution that says you cant hold office as a convicted felon drray23 Jul 2023 #105

"there is nothing in the constitution that says you cant hold office as a convicted felon" BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #119

Unsurprising Fresh Water Falling Jul 2023 #96

Moving the documents case to the back-burner will give Smith with an advantage in the Jan-6 case. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #102

Why is the handling of classified documents during the trial so difficult that it requires delay? ECL213 Jul 2023 #104

Not a lawyer, I take it. onenote Jul 2023 #117

Actually I am, though I do not practice criminal law... ECL213 Jul 2023 #124

Of course it is about the documents. onenote Jul 2023 #125

Smith is the one who asked for the December trial date. ECL213 Jul 2023 #127

As you acknowledge, even Smith recognized the need to give the defense time to prepare onenote Jul 2023 #131

Hey, great guess. ECL213 Jul 2023 #135

I don't think that the trail will ever happen. The play book "delay" and a judge to help. republianmushroom Jul 2023 #109

Thank you MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #111

Jack Smith requested a December start. SergeStorms Jul 2023 #129

this trial date llashram Jul 2023 #112

Tough luck Donny boy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 #115

Once he's charged and trial is set Marthe48 Jul 2023 #130

Charges were brought too early. The Grand Illuminist Jul 2023 #132