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xocetaceans

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33. They never rose to the level of creating a question of fairness for the following reasons...
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 01:22 PM
Apr 2023

As I pointed out, there is an inherent difference in what fairness means to both sides of the debate. Essentially, the men's division is seen as an open division - winning is perceived as being achieved by merit. So, effectively, no one really cares who competes in it. The women's division is seen as protected, and winning is by merit* - if it were actually open, women would not win except rarely, if at all, is the belief. So, people actually do care who competes in it.

That's the framing that I think is in play around this issue.

Thanks for the information regarding those athletes. I had never heard of them. (I did not say there weren't any, merely that I did not know of any.)

I hope that your analysis is correct and that I am wrong, but I think this issue will gain a foothold in the battleground states. How large of a foothold remains to be seen. Almost no one (save a few like Michael Moore) thought Trump could win in 2016. Please do keep in mind how important sports are in this country. (Who, after all, are the highest paid state employees in most (if not all) states?)

We'll see how things turn out. The House bill will likely not make it beyond the Senate: Speaker Jeffries reiterated today that sports already has governing agencies that define the rules for their respective disciplines, so his statement seems to agree with yours in that he does not believe that Congress has any business superseding those agencies' respective judgments with legislation.

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