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In reply to the discussion: As missiles strike Ukraine, Israel won't sell its vaunted air defense [View all]stopdiggin
(14,561 posts)59. I am defending no one else's words (or posts)
other than my own. And, in those posts (each individually, and collectively) I made quite sure to emphasis that I wasn't attempting to distract from Russian responsibility. On the other hand - you seem to be bent on nothing less than a complete exoneration of Ukraine, and Ukraine society - and you're simply not going to get that here. Antisemitism, then and now, cuts way too wide a swath - and I think an honest reading of history will show that there was plenty of support for anti-Jewish measures - in the Ukraine (as well as, as I've also said repeatedly, in many other countries and parts of the world). Claiming that the Ukrainians 'had nothing to do with it' - simply doesn't wash.
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As missiles strike Ukraine, Israel won't sell its vaunted air defense [View all]
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OP
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AZLD4Candidate
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JohnSJ
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#35
I speak for myself, but there is and has been a pattern to use Israel and Jews as a scape goat.
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Ok. Most important thing from my perspective is that we keep NATO together on this, and I suspect
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