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4. History lesson (not excusing, but explaining). The Cossacks were one of the worst

Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:15 PM

Oct 2022

perpetrators of pogroms against Jews in Czarist Russia. During WW2, Ukrainians willingly handed over Jews to the Nazis for extermination.

For a lot of Jews, those wounds are still fresh.

Again, not excusing, just explaining. I know that Russia now is a greater threat to the world, but old wounds die hard.

My Chinese wife still hates Japan for what happened during WW2, some 85 years after it happened.

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As missiles strike Ukraine, Israel won't sell its vaunted air defense [View all] orangecrush Oct 2022 OP

wth BootinUp Oct 2022 #1

The header said orangecrush Oct 2022 #2

There is a large population of Russian Jews in Israel. LudwigPastorius Oct 2022 #16

Then send them back to Russia so they can enlist. NM Grins Oct 2022 #82

I have said it 1000 times, Israel is not our friend. lark Oct 2022 #41

Countries are not friends with other countries. Dysfunctional Oct 2022 #48

It can also have pretend allies. lark Oct 2022 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 2022 #67

WE give them a shit ton of money every year. lark Oct 2022 #73

They just sold an anti drone system to Ukraine via poland. Mosby Oct 2022 #76

c'est la vie democratic2021 Oct 2022 #72

Israel guards this tech zealously. maxsolomon Oct 2022 #3

Hezbollah is supplied missiles by Iran. former9thward Oct 2022 #24

Ah, but they are unguided missiles. Old tech. Cruise missiles and others used by the Russkies are... machoneman Oct 2022 #43

Sorry, didn't mean to undersell Hezbollah's threat maxsolomon Oct 2022 #47

History lesson (not excusing, but explaining). The Cossacks were one of the worst AZLD4Candidate Oct 2022 #4

And the 100,000+ Jews currently in Ukraine? iemanja Oct 2022 #7

Then Israel is being cowardly. As for the 100K Jews in Ukraine AZLD4Candidate Oct 2022 #14

I don't know if this actually happened but grandchildren paying for mistakes yaesu Oct 2022 #10

Some wounds don't die. Again, my wife blames Japan for what happened during WW2 AZLD4Candidate Oct 2022 #12

And Koreans still hate the Japanese. n/t GP6971 Oct 2022 #18

And everyone hates the British, right? OtterDave Oct 2022 #20

Not really. GP6971 Oct 2022 #21

Most nations have a beef with other nations OtterDave Oct 2022 #22

But not necessarily for racist reasons. GP6971 Oct 2022 #23

When your wife's great-grandmother is gang raped and left for dead in a muddy ditch AZLD4Candidate Oct 2022 #29

My friend's ancient mom came to visit from China. She kept pointing out places where Japanese were NBachers Oct 2022 #33

You're Not Wrong But;... ruet Oct 2022 #19

Just ask a random native American, like my former students in Arizona or my mother AZLD4Candidate Oct 2022 #28

Ukeaines's President is Jewish orangecrush Oct 2022 #37

Ah, yes. Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #77

Here are some important paragraphs from the article iemanja Oct 2022 #5

not excusing - but Israel is not the only entity stopdiggin Oct 2022 #6

+1 OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2022 #27

That's a fair point. Even the the US hasn't provided patriot systems XorXor Oct 2022 #71

They need Russia to prop up Assad Effete Snob Oct 2022 #8

Perhaps a temporary(?) diversion of military aid from Israel to Ukraine would help Orrex Oct 2022 #9

I always figured Israel got the nifty air defense from US so maybe its yaesu Oct 2022 #11

Nope. James48 Oct 2022 #15

We helped fund Iron Dome but did not build it womanofthehills Oct 2022 #56

Israel's Iron Dome would help, but it's not designed for James48 Oct 2022 #13

From the link... orangecrush Oct 2022 #38

Posts above start with "not defending but explaining." TomSlick Oct 2022 #17

home of the progrom? former9thward Oct 2022 #25

Literally 100 years ago StormKing Oct 2022 #26

Slavery was over 160 years ago. . .people still want reparations and deserve them. AZLD4Candidate Oct 2022 #30

Russia was in control of Ukraine 100 years ago. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #32

Putin is running a anti-Jewish genocide StormKing Oct 2022 #44

Imperial Russia is where pogroms began. At the time, Ukraine was under the control of Russia. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #31

"are you seriously blaming ..?" stopdiggin Oct 2022 #40

No one is disputing why Isreal is siding with Putin, they are criticizing the morality of it... SunSeeker Oct 2022 #46

actually I didn't make that claim at all stopdiggin Oct 2022 #50

The post you are defending did. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #57

I am defending no one else's words (or posts) stopdiggin Oct 2022 #59

What did you expect the starving peasants of Ukraine to do to stop Russia's pogroms? SunSeeker Oct 2022 #61

they weren't all peasants. stopdiggin Oct 2022 #63

What did you expect the lucky ones not literally starving to death to do to stop Stalin's pogroms? SunSeeker Oct 2022 #64

I meant that the word pogrom originated in Russia. TomSlick Oct 2022 #52

Israel is not siding with Russia. former9thward Oct 2022 #53

We should agree to disagree. TomSlick Oct 2022 #54

Every country should do all they can to help Ukraine! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #34

My thoughts are with the tinderbox that is the Middle East, this wouldn't be publicly JohnSJ Oct 2022 #35

C'mon on now. You know why this article was written. Behind the Aegis Oct 2022 #36

I don't know why orangecrush Oct 2022 #39

I speak for myself, but there is and has been a pattern to use Israel and Jews as a scape goat. JohnSJ Oct 2022 #42

I don't think the Israel steps quite so nimbly stopdiggin Oct 2022 #62

Ok. Most important thing from my perspective is that we keep NATO together on this, and I suspect JohnSJ Oct 2022 #65

I understand completely orangecrush Oct 2022 #70

Currently, the repubs have turned on the Jews MOMFUDSKI Oct 2022 #45

calculations Slammer Oct 2022 #49

I'm not sure I understand that. Disaffected Oct 2022 #51

With up to 400,000 Jewish residents, Ukraine is home to the world's fifth-largest Jewish community. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #60

Israel gets free rein by Russia to attack Iranian attempts to move heavy weapons to the... EX500rider Oct 2022 #55

How can Russia stop Israel from attacking Iran's heavy weapons at the Syrian/Israeli border? SunSeeker Oct 2022 #58

Russia still has bases in Syria with long range air defenses. EX500rider Oct 2022 #74

Do you think Russia would shoot missiles into Israel and start another war? SunSeeker Oct 2022 #78

No, the missiles would be fired at Israeli warplanes in Syrian airspace attacking Iranian targets EX500rider Oct 2022 #80

Russians shooting down Israeli planes is not starting a war? SunSeeker Oct 2022 #81

I thought the missile defense system came from the USA? BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #68

US system was the Patriot, Iron Dome is an Israeli invention (from 2011). Angleae Oct 2022 #69

But US gave Israel hundreds of millions of dollars to help develop it. nt SunSeeker Oct 2022 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #75