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In reply to the discussion: Charles formally confirmed as king in ceremony televised for first time [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(104,900 posts)16. Actually, Elizabeth wasn't given the "Princess Royal" title
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Royal
It traditionally goes to the eldest daughter of the monarch, but unlike the 'Prince of Wales' title, it has stayed with them (if they're alive) after their brother has succeeded. That can mean in some cases it skips a generation, and gets complicated.
King Edward VII's daughter Louise got in in 1905, and lived until 1931 - after Elizabeth was born. But then the title went to Elizabeth's aunt Mary (daughter of the reigning George V), who held it from 1932 to 1965 - after her brother George VI died. So it was never 'available' for Elizabeth. She didn't award the title to her daughter Anne until 1987 (by which time she was about 37).
You're right that there was no Prince (or Princess) of Wales between Edward VIII giving it up on becoming king, and Charles getting it (apparently when he was 9, though the ceremony for it didn't happen until he was an adult).
Looking at the official list, the only times since it was instituted for the son of Edward I (the future Edward II) that the eldest son hasn't got it were Edward II's own son (perhaps they hadn't decided it was a tradition then); Henry V's son, who succeeded him as Henry VI under the age of one (they don't do it right on birth); and Edward VI, son of Henry VIII, who is surprisingly not listed - he was 9 when his father died, but Henry VIII was one for titles, so you'd think he'd have given it to his son early.
It traditionally goes to the eldest daughter of the monarch, but unlike the 'Prince of Wales' title, it has stayed with them (if they're alive) after their brother has succeeded. That can mean in some cases it skips a generation, and gets complicated.
King Edward VII's daughter Louise got in in 1905, and lived until 1931 - after Elizabeth was born. But then the title went to Elizabeth's aunt Mary (daughter of the reigning George V), who held it from 1932 to 1965 - after her brother George VI died. So it was never 'available' for Elizabeth. She didn't award the title to her daughter Anne until 1987 (by which time she was about 37).
You're right that there was no Prince (or Princess) of Wales between Edward VIII giving it up on becoming king, and Charles getting it (apparently when he was 9, though the ceremony for it didn't happen until he was an adult).
Looking at the official list, the only times since it was instituted for the son of Edward I (the future Edward II) that the eldest son hasn't got it were Edward II's own son (perhaps they hadn't decided it was a tradition then); Henry V's son, who succeeded him as Henry VI under the age of one (they don't do it right on birth); and Edward VI, son of Henry VIII, who is surprisingly not listed - he was 9 when his father died, but Henry VIII was one for titles, so you'd think he'd have given it to his son early.
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Charles formally confirmed as king in ceremony televised for first time [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Sep 2022
OP
Yes, the tune was around and the Brits adopted it for their anthem long before the words
Sogo
Sep 2022
#20
Sorry for saying Elizabeth was Princess Royal. It usually goes to a favored eldest princess,
catrose
Sep 2022
#23
The Coronation (which will be another big production) will be who knows when!
BumRushDaShow
Sep 2022
#25
The thing is, this "chatter" is people who know squat about the man or Royal Family
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2022
#35