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10. 'it didn't end before there was an EU'

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 12:58 PM

Jul 2016

It didn't end, but millions of people were killed in two horrible Europaean wars in the first half of the 20th century. The EU and the increased Europaean co-operation that it represents have helped to contribute to the maintenance of peace.

I don't think the world will end, but it would help if our leaders hadn't lied to us, and had had the slightest clue what to do next.

'The vote is the vote. Deal with it. Everyone had their say.'

That's, I believe, what Republicans were saying to you in 2000 and 2004. Yes, people had their say then too; but against a background of lies and distortions.

And one important group didn't have their say: long-term EU residents in this country. They are allowed to vote in local elections, but they weren't allowed to vote on an issue that crucially affects their lives.

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Thousands say 'No' to Brexit in colorful protest [View all] Night Watchman Jul 2016 OP

Best 2 out of 3? Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #1

Since Brexit was a legally non-binding referendum... yallerdawg Jul 2016 #4

Don't the MPs have to vote them out? Not the electorate? MADem Jul 2016 #41

They voted "in" in 1975, "out" last month, Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #8

As yallerdawg and others have pointed out this vote was purely advisory and the government cstanleytech Jul 2016 #39

I still say the Leave will never actually happen bluestateguy Jul 2016 #2

I'm with you on that, but there will have a be a huuuge amount of verbal gymnastics to go through ! OnDoutside Jul 2016 #3

I tend to agree, but this all reminds me of a bizarre short story I had to read in university Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2016 #21

The vote is the vote. Deal with it. Everyone had their say. 7962 Jul 2016 #5

'it didn't end before there was an EU' LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #10

All politicians lie all the time. christx30 Jul 2016 #11

Not a single politician, anywhere, ever, not even one word of truth? al bupp Jul 2016 #20

If one of them told me the sky was blue, christx30 Jul 2016 #22

I get it, you're firmly underwhelmed by politicians al bupp Jul 2016 #23

Yep--the EU has been great for European cooperation and unity, to say nothing of opportunities MADem Jul 2016 #42

Does it have to be the end of the world to be a bad thing? Moonwalk Jul 2016 #12

I have my doubts about Scotland leaving. Oil prices being what they are especially. 7962 Jul 2016 #13

No. Denmark is firmly in the EU for any foreseeable future. Jemmons Jul 2016 #17

You are probably right about Denmark and the EU but the far-right party wants a "Dexit" referendum. pampango Jul 2016 #24

The Danish Peoples Party is not far right in a traditional sense Jemmons Jul 2016 #36

Agreed. Conservatives won democratically. Liberals lost democratically. Liberals need to move on. pampango Jul 2016 #14

Yeah, man up and shut up!! Helen Borg Jul 2016 #16

Well, there WILL be other elections. 7962 Jul 2016 #19

The GBP is at 31 year low and analysist think it will continue to drop RAFisher Jul 2016 #18

Oh, please. Hissyspit Jul 2016 #31

"And the markets have already gained back most of the "sky is falling" losses as well." Chakab Jul 2016 #34

Anti-Democracy agitators. WinkyDink Jul 2016 #6

Did you think the same of people who protested against Bush's policies? LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #28

Or what about civil rights protests? NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #35

You're not serious? Liberals demonstrating in the streets are "anti-democratic agitators"? pampango Jul 2016 #29

You are being facetious, right? Hissyspit Jul 2016 #32

Protest is undemocratic ? n/t TubbersUK Jul 2016 #44

BBC: Marchers chanting "Fromage not Farage" and waving baguettes were among the crowds pampango Jul 2016 #7

Young people thought they could grow up with the right to live and work in 28 different countries. Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #9

Pity they didn't bother to vote FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #25

I doubt the EU is going to shut the door on all Brits NobodyHere Jul 2016 #37

Perhaps not but how many Europeans the UK shuts the door on may play into the decision. pampango Jul 2016 #40

They might charge them for visas, though, and fine them if they overstay.... MADem Jul 2016 #43

"We must not let rightwing, narrow-minded nationalism nor xenophobia define us. We are better than pampango Jul 2016 #15

They protest, but didn't vote FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #26

What makes you think that? LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #27

I feel sorry for the liberals and the young, in particular, and don't blame them for protesting pampango Jul 2016 #33

Hah! You used the word "think" in a question to a poster who doesn't know anything ... Nihil Jul 2016 #46

Didn't vote ? n/t TubbersUK Jul 2016 #45

Brexit Vote Was Non-Binding... TomCADem Jul 2016 #30

Your suggestion that the UK can cherrypick which rules to follow and which to ignore is just Jemmons Jul 2016 #38