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VanillaRhapsody

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29. EXACTLY!!!

Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:59 PM

Dec 2014

Torture cannot be American policy, period

Q: Let’s say we were to capture the #3 man in Al Qaida, and we know there’s a bomb about to go off, and we have 3 days, and we know this guy knows where it is. Should there be a presidential exception to allow torture in that kind of situation?

A: As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period. There is very little evidence that it works. Now, there are a lot of other things that we need to be doing that I wish we were: better intelligence; working to have more allies. But these hypotheticals are very dangerous because they open a great big hole in what should be an attitude that our country and our president takes toward the appropriate treatment of everyone. And I think it’s dangerous to go down this path.

Q: The guest who laid out this scenario for me with that proposed solution was William Jefferson Clinton last year. So he disagrees with you.

A: Well, he’s not standing here right now.

Q: So there is a disagreement?

A: Well, I’ll talk to him later.

Source: 2007 Democratic primary debate at Dartmouth College , Sep 6, 2007

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Where is Hillary on Torture? msnbc [View all] LawDeeDah Dec 2014 OP

Looks like you have your answer. “It cannot be American policy, period,” she said. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #1

Waffle Waffle Waffle LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #3

Waffle Waffle Waffle, Read Read Read Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #8

Is Bill running for President? William769 Dec 2014 #23

People refer to the Clinton years as a great economy time LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #25

Unfortunately, you did still not answer the question. William769 Dec 2014 #26

and as Obama said in 2008 in a debate: LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #28

Apparently his resume is ... AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #27

Thank you I like Hillary much better now. Kalidurga Dec 2014 #35

EXACTLY!!! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #29

'who often cited the TV show “24” as an example of why torture is sometimes necessary.' PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #2

Can always trust a President that takes his cues from the TV. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #4

I believe she said she was against it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #5

It seems she was against it after she was for it. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #6

She is against it and that is what matters. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #7

Sometimes the stretch of the truth still does not change the facts, cognitive dissonance Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #9

Well some just don't like her and there is no changing that. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #12

I gotcha ya. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #14

It also matters why she changed her mind. Matters very much. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #10

Hillary is a great Democrat and I will be proud to vote for her in the primary and general. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #11

Perhaps since you have brought up changing one's mind, this would be the Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #13

Hillary's statements can't always be trusted to be true to heart. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #16

Hillary did not live most of her life as a Republican, voting for Reagan who thought Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #20

but she did vote for the Chimperor's war LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #22

I have heard that arguement before. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #17

**cough** bullshit **cough** VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #30

Bill Clinton tortured before his adopted brother George tortured. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #15

Seems her answer is pretty clear. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #18

Where's Elizabeth Warren, the woman who can do nothing wrong, on this issue? joeybee12 Dec 2014 #19

Here is a twitter from Warren: LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #21

Wow...a tweet...and a hard-hitting one... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #32

Hillary must be too busy counting Goldman Sachs money to bother with a tweet. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #33

You've been shitting on Warren all day Union Scribe Dec 2014 #24

Two posts is hardly all day... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #31

yep, me too. Oh, you mean Warren! LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #34

Where is Obama on torture? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #36

Executive Order 13491 -- Ensuring Lawful Interrogations LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #37