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51. It WAS easier to build good train service. But they have let it go bad
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 07:02 AM
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Ever greater control ceded to incompetent bureaucrats has been an absolute disaster, and Germany has led the way. What used to be a reliable network of public transportation has become the joke of Europe.

Just yesterday, I had to travel from my office near Utrecht, NL back to my home near Düsseldorf. The train station in my town, by the way has been closed for most of the year, and through service on the route has been out for almost two years. So, I have to get a taxi to the airport train station, and go either north or south from there. The track from Oberhausen over to Arnhem (first major Dutch train station) is being worked on (again), and so, instead of the 1 hour 50 minute trip from Düsseldorf to Utrecht, I had to use a southerly route (involving getting up at 4:45 instead of 6:00), which adds an hour to the trip. That was "only" 20 minutes late, so I was there just before 10:00 AM, where I am usually there at 9:00. But then, there was the trip back.

The trip back was supposed to leave Utrecht at 4:26 PM and get in to the Düsseldorf airport station at 7:30 PM. But--it was a GERMAN train. We didn't even make it out of the Netherlands until after 7:30 PM. Then, due to "traffic complications," once in Germany, the train couldn't stop at the border station, because all routes north (i.e. Düsseldorf) were blocked. So, the train had to go all the way down to Köln, where I changed for a local train up to Düsseldorf and the Düsseldorf airport. that is usually a 40 minute trip. But after 15 minutes, the engineer said he had to conduct a technical review of the locomotive, so we would sit there for ten minutes in the middle of nowhere. I FINALLY made it to my station at around 22:30 (10:30 PM). Three hours late for a trip that was supposed to take just under three hours. A two hour trip took six hours. You'd think they took scheduling lessons from American Airlines.

THAT is what train travel in Central Europe has become. No more the image of Switzerland. More like Albania--AND, flying is, in many cases, cheaper !!

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my sister in law has sworn off flying after a liftime... samnsara Thursday #1
Thanks, samnsara. MIButterfly Thursday #2
try to remember barbtries Thursday #33
She's super sensitive to it? Happy Hoosier Thursday #12
Same With Me. ColoringFool Thursday #22
If only we had Europe's rail network! Lonestarblue Thursday #3
I grew up in Detroit and I guess because cars were built there, they expected everyone to have a car MIButterfly Thursday #6
Back in the 1920's everyone wanted a car, but it was a luxury FakeNoose Thursday #17
I think Chicago has a great public transit system. MIButterfly Thursday #21
Keep in mind that Europe is a lot smaller than the U. S. PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #8
Is China? barbtries Thursday #11
Did China start with overwhelming private car ownership? PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #42
I think its China that has perfected the bullet train. peacebuzzard Friday #53
Not really an excuse... Shipwack Thursday #20
Actually, it is the excuse. PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #43
In land mass Europe is slightly larger than the US spooky3 Thursday #28
It WAS easier to build good train service. But they have let it go bad DFW Friday #51
Abysmal. I didn't know the system was deteriorating. peacebuzzard Friday #54
It has been going downhill here for a while. A self-perpetuating bureaucracy has no interest in efficiency. DFW Friday #63
sounds like five star Germany has devolved to the norms of the rest of the world.... peacebuzzard Friday #67
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Its been many decades since I have been to the Azores peacebuzzard Saturday #70
Porto is the one city there I actually DO know to some degree DFW Saturday #71
I think that is one of my dream towns to visit. Maybe the only one. peacebuzzard Saturday #73
Sorry to hear this, and sorry for you. In the 90s train travel spooky3 Friday #61
You got that right!! DFW Friday #64
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I was having occasional dizziness and imbalance like you describe FakeNoose Thursday #18
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Take off income tax. 3Hotdogs Friday #56
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