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azureblue

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Wed Oct 1, 2025, 04:34 PM

Oct 1

the order violates the oath they take to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Pedo and Heg are blatantly ignoring the Constitution and the Posse Comitatus act, and the military had that thrown in their faces. IOW, they serve the Constitution, not the president. No doubt the officers are having some very frank talks about what to do if Trump decides to use the military against America itself. The military will circle their wagons.

We have already seen, in Trump's little parade a few months back, how much they dislike him, so my bet is the military will simply refuse to obey Pedo's commands. And there is nothing Trump can do about it. He can threaten to fire, remove from command, etc., but a military court will prove reason to disobey. And with the military seemingly united against Pedo, he has reached his Waterloo.

Pedo's whole game is built around using the military to seize power.And THAT is what was in full view.

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Lower appellate courts have been helping him lame54 Sep 30 #4

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Sadly DownriverDem Sep 30 #13

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I was only 10 LittleGirl Sep 30 #23

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It certainly is. sheshe2 Sep 30 #22

Today was bone-chilling. ReRe Sep 30 #27

If the troops are armed, they will shoot Bmoboy Oct 1 #53

And that's the key TimeToGo Sep 30 #18

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It was just Diddling Donny punching down in his traditional way. Safe as Milk Oct 1 #43

Is everything trump does lawful? Ilsa Sep 30 #35

I seriously doubt it. However, in days of old it has happened but these days it is pretty walkingman Oct 1 #44

they would be held accountable azureblue Oct 1 #51

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Diddling Donny's power to punish protects him. Safe as Milk Oct 1 #40

100% correct. Not only can he use the power of our judicial system to go after them walkingman Oct 1 #54

unless azureblue Oct 1 #50

Changing the purpose of the military from fighting for freedom in the world to bucolic_frolic Sep 30 #5

Yup orangecrush Sep 30 #10

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Signal app is a well known way. But ... it is well known. Tetrachloride Sep 30 #25

Actually, popsdenver Sep 30 #15

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... all enemies foreign and domestic ... ZDU Sep 30 #19

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Don't Shit In Your Hejmet. BurnDoubt Oct 1 #39

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