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31. Also a strong democratic socialist movement may convince

Reply to MIButterfly (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 08:53 PM

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oligarchs and the GOP to temper their policy platform. That is what happened to Canada and the US in the 1930s. Socialism was a threat so the capitalists, kick and screaming, had to move to the center. That is why Trump is going so strongly after Mamdani.

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My thought about Zohran Mamdani and the Democratic Party. [View all] MIButterfly Monday OP

Yeah. mr715 Monday #1

"We have a Democratic nominee. Are we a party who rallies behind our nominee or not?," Emile Monday #2

YES! InAbLuEsTaTe Monday #58

Unfortunately and some times it's wrong, but Democrats do have different opinions especially ....... Lovie777 Monday #3

I am with you. Cuomo's term, like Bloomberg's had much that was awful in it, and much that Scrivener7 Monday #5

there is always the least bad choice . just be grateful for any vote he gets no matter how begrudging msongs Monday #24

It really is that simple. sdfernando Monday #4

I don't think endorsements should be automatic newdeal2 Monday #6

How about, if you can't, in good conscience, endorse the candidate, then don't say anything? MIButterfly Monday #9

I'm not a New Yorker... the people will make the final decision, soon. WarGamer Monday #7

What exactly is the "establishment" doing to harm Mamdani? SocialDemocrat61 Monday #8

Mamdani is not taking any harm mr715 Monday #10

How? SocialDemocrat61 Monday #12

I'll do my best, I'll try to be logical. mr715 Monday #14

Most endorsements in 21 SocialDemocrat61 Monday #15

How about Cuomo? mr715 Monday #16

F*ck Cuomo SocialDemocrat61 Monday #18

Ha! mr715 Monday #19

Then what is the "establishment" doing? SocialDemocrat61 Monday #21

You say fuck Cuomo mr715 Monday #23

Cuomo is not part of the establishment SocialDemocrat61 Monday #27

I've done my best to articulate my reasoning. mr715 Monday #30

And I've asked you to cite SocialDemocrat61 Monday #36

Cuomo was establishment Democrat until he declared himself himself IND after losing the Dem primary. thesquanderer Monday #62

Cuomo sucks SocialDemocrat61 Monday #64

While they may not be withholding funds, I doubt the party machinery under Jacobs is working to elect him, either. thesquanderer Monday #67

That's supposition SocialDemocrat61 Monday #68

I still think he's part of the establishment since he didn't resign and disappear Tribetime Tuesday #81

That's an opinion SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #83

Excellent reply! I believe this is a leadership test. Emile Monday #20

No, it's a purity test. SocialDemocrat61 Monday #22

Who is looking for purity? mr715 Monday #25

Sure they could SocialDemocrat61 Monday #29

What is your definition of establishment? nt mr715 Monday #33

National and state party officials SocialDemocrat61 Monday #37

It isn't just me. mr715 Monday #38

Again I couldn't care less SocialDemocrat61 Monday #42

Even if endorsements are not important... thesquanderer Monday #63

Endorsements are bs SocialDemocrat61 Monday #65

Populists use the label Establishment to identify and demonize imaginary corrupt enemies out to get them. betsuni Tuesday #74

Are we a party who rallies behind our nominee or not? Emile Monday #40

We should be SocialDemocrat61 Monday #43

As I said, it's a leadership test! Emile Monday #44

And as I said SocialDemocrat61 Monday #45

Gillibrand lives in N.Y. Booker does not. There is no reason for Booker to endorse candidates for another state. 3Hotdogs Monday #46

Gillibrand lives in upstate New York SocialDemocrat61 Monday #48

Moynihan had a term, "Benign neglect." 3Hotdogs Monday #49

Yes he did SocialDemocrat61 Monday #52

gotta wait 'till February fund raiser. 3Hotdogs Monday #54

Well I'll still give a heart now ❤️ SocialDemocrat61 Monday #56

Now I want a heart. nt mr715 Monday #57

Ok here you go ❤️ SocialDemocrat61 Monday #59

Just a respectful, thought provoking discussion. And a heart. NT mr715 Monday #60

I am not a New Yorker and have no ball in this game. sheshe2 Monday #11

It's a purity test SocialDemocrat61 Monday #17

You are correct. sheshe2 Monday #28

I've asked for SocialDemocrat61 Monday #34

Why is anyone obligated to answer questions you ask? Violet_Crumble Monday #66

They are not SocialDemocrat61 Monday #69

Conspiracy theory that Democrats are corrupted by donors, oligarchs, billionaires, corporations, lobbyists, betsuni Tuesday #75

I'm not from New York, I simply don't care about this election. tritsofme Monday #13

We're the greatest city in the world mr715 Monday #26

Also a strong democratic socialist movement may convince applegrove Monday #31

Either way the Democrat Party wins Glen Livid Monday #32

Democratic not Democrat. nt BWdem4life Monday #41

George Carlin has already told us why. aeromanKC Monday #35

We need to support the new guard Chicagogrl1 Monday #39

Amen LilElf70 Monday #51

"We need to support the new guard" sheshe2 Monday #53

In the movie Logan"s Run SocialDemocrat61 Monday #55

Dayum, fifty could be the new old and in the way. sheshe2 Monday #61

Then "new guard" gets same "disappointment" complaints, into the Status Quo Establishment binder they go. betsuni Tuesday #79

Herding Democrats can be harder than herding cats. pat_k Monday #47

Well said Cirsium Monday #50

re: " It shouldn't be who the establishment wants it to be or who they think it should be or whose turn it is" thesquanderer Monday #70

He should become a Democrat LyfeTimeDem Monday #71

Mamdani is a democrat SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #72

he is a self-identified Socialist LyfeTimeDem Tuesday #73

He's a member of the Democratic Party SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #80

Yep Coumo & Adams shouldnt be running IbogaProject Tuesday #76

The old Democrats have to step aside bob4460 Tuesday #77

How do you define old? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #85

Sanders doesn't identify as a Democrat n/t MichMan Tuesday #86

True SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #87

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He is a Democrat. It's time to show support for the democratic nominee. Emile Tuesday #84

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