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81. I can see why given the Charger EV

Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:07 AM

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Dodge's transition to electric power is going about as well as you imagined. Sales data for Q1 2025 show the brand sold more discontinued Chargers and Challengers than its all-new Charger Daytona EV, validating the question of why the battery-powered replacement came first.

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Dodge sold more discontinued gas-powered Chargers (1,052) and Challengers (922) than the new Charger Daytona EV (1,947) in Q1 2025.

The Charger Daytona EV averaged just 22 sales per day nationwide.

Ford sold 9,377 Mustangs during the same period, despite a sales dip.

Tesla in comparison sold 362,000 in Q1 of 2025 or 4000 a day.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/the-dodge-charger-daytona-ev-is-irrelevant-to-shoppers/ar-AA1C9RfS?ocid=BingNewsSerp

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