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ret5hd

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3. explain to me in plain english...

Sun Dec 24, 2023, 10:14 PM

Dec 2023

in practical terms…”the proper channels” for a poor rural uneducated but healthy and strong-backed south american, central american, or mexican citizen.

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What should our border/migrant stance be? [View all] Polybius Dec 2023 OP

if one identifies as a Xtian... ret5hd Dec 2023 #1

So open borders? Polybius Dec 2023 #5

i'll let YOU give me YOUR interpretation... ret5hd Dec 2023 #6

Ok, so I'm the exact opposite Polybius Dec 2023 #9

Of course. ret5hd Dec 2023 #11

I'm over 20 minutes in so far, but disagree Polybius Dec 2023 #18

Explain...using logic...the morality of choosing a latte over saving someones life. ret5hd Dec 2023 #20

2 things: Polybius Dec 2023 #26

Consider that there will always be someone poorer than you... brooklynite Dec 2023 #82

I identify as a Christian but I don't want my country to be ruled by Bible verses. former9thward Dec 2023 #8

The only thing requested (by me anyway)... ret5hd Dec 2023 #12

The law. former9thward Dec 2023 #14

The law is often not ethical or moral John Shaft Dec 2023 #46

We are a nation of about 330 million people. former9thward Dec 2023 #62

Strict adherence to a legalistic mindset or worldview is a conservative trait John Shaft Dec 2023 #67

No, appreciation for rational government is a liberal trait. former9thward Dec 2023 #68

You have discovered nothing John Shaft Dec 2023 #69

The law is notably silent on whether one should lie about one's political affiliations Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #80

I don't think any country in the world has an "open borders" TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #2

explain to me in plain english... ret5hd Dec 2023 #3

I'm pretty sure you can find those yourself with a bit of Google help TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #4

what you don't want to say (and i don't blame you)... ret5hd Dec 2023 #7

There's a lottery. Igel Dec 2023 #33

So you're saying we have no legal farm workers? brooklynite Dec 2023 #83

Apply the same standards white immigrants got in the 19th century John Shaft Dec 2023 #47

It's getting kinda crowded here lately Calculating Dec 2023 #10

There's no room at the inn! ret5hd Dec 2023 #13

There was not even room at the inn 2000 years ago in Judea. former9thward Dec 2023 #15

J&M were visiting. Igel Dec 2023 #34

Well, it wasn't exactly a feast...they were there to be taxed. Tanuki Dec 2023 #42

On the contrary, we need more immigrants. Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #16

Depends how you look at it Polybius Dec 2023 #17

Maybe that would be good in an ideal world but Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #44

We were taking in similar numbers pre 9/11 and I don't remember people screaming about it back then Rstrstx Dec 2023 #40

True, the numbers in the last couple of years are near 2000 levels ClimateHawk Dec 2023 #65

Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #19

Can't imagine signing up for a message board ok_cpu Dec 2023 #22

We cannot have all the Venezuelans (and soon Argentinians) move to the United States. dalton99a Dec 2023 #21

We need a vastly streamlined path to citizenship NickB79 Dec 2023 #23

I'm still trying to figure out the Republican stance Emile Dec 2023 #24

Their stance is build a wall, round them them up, and send them back (even if born here) Polybius Dec 2023 #27

Well they have the majority, when are they Emile Dec 2023 #41

Well, they did attach a hardline immigration bill to Ukraine/Israel aid Polybius Dec 2023 #43

Well apparently that's not working. What Emile Dec 2023 #45

What do you want them to do? Polybius Dec 2023 #48

How about quit pointing their finger. Emile Dec 2023 #51

But the ball's in the Senate's court Polybius Dec 2023 #52

Blaming the other side is not a good negotiation Emile Dec 2023 #53

It's tied to Ukraine aid Polybius Dec 2023 #56

Tying Ukraine aid to an immigration bill Emile Dec 2023 #58

People on the left will be upset though. Mad_Machine76 Dec 2023 #74

Well, that may be too bad Polybius Jan 2024 #95

They want the laws on the books enforced ripcord Dec 2023 #71

Then why aren't they doing something? Emile Dec 2023 #72

They do try but they dont comtrol immigration policy, we do ripcord Dec 2023 #73

Congress has the power to regulate immigration. Emile Dec 2023 #87

It's not as easy as Americans assume in other countries. EllieBC Dec 2023 #25

Let them in The Contrarian Dec 2023 #28

No limits at all? MichMan Dec 2023 #57

Just have a policy, any policy, and FOLLOW IT Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2023 #29

Agreed on the employers MichMan Dec 2023 #61

It's more complicated than we think jmbar2 Dec 2023 #30

Path to citizenship. The border problem persists for a number of reasons... brush Dec 2023 #31

We should welcome the refugees. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #32

"Globalization driven by US economic hegemony has wrecked the economies of our southern neighbors" EX500rider Dec 2023 #39

Create a task force comprised of serious, knowledgeable adults ecstatic Dec 2023 #35

Moving to America can't be the solution to everyone's RubyRose Dec 2023 #36

We share some responsibility for that too Mad_Machine76 Dec 2023 #75

100% for open border. (IF done the way it should be) (i do not have the answer to how it should be done tho) bluestarone Dec 2023 #37

That can be a distressing subject. limbicnuminousity Dec 2023 #38

Improve tech education in the U.S. and limit so-called "high skilled" visas RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #49

We should finally help the countries these people are leaving Johonny Dec 2023 #50

,+1 Emile Dec 2023 #64

Asylum seekers must be processed faster. Freethinker65 Dec 2023 #54

Agreed since most do not qualify for asylum. MichMan Dec 2023 #55

They know the odds: 93% of apprehensions are mere formalities that result in release. dalton99a Dec 2023 #60

The whole idea that hundreds of thousands are seeking political asylum is ridiculous Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #81

sanctions enid602 Dec 2023 #59

We have sanctions because they are human rights violators. former9thward Dec 2023 #70

Venezuela enid602 Dec 2023 #77

Increase legal immigration. Be picky. Melting pot participation required... gulliver Dec 2023 #63

" Invest in Mexico, Central, and South America, so the people don't want to emigrate " MichMan Dec 2023 #78

This needs to be the number one question we address in 2024 Arthur_Frain Dec 2023 #66

"Congress controls legislation. The Pres. will give serious consideration to any bill spooky3 Dec 2023 #76

We need a process IbogaProject Dec 2023 #79

Time to spend some serious money in Mexico, etc., in transition programs. Silent Type Dec 2023 #84

Draconian or compassionate pfitz59 Dec 2023 #85

If we agree that the problem is the perception of immigrants taking desirable jobs from US citizens, meadowlander Dec 2023 #86

It should be an effort to visibly show a co-operation with Repubs as this is their major issue against Dems.. NowsTheTime Dec 2023 #88

Republicans are not serious. See post 58. Emile Dec 2023 #89

We are also not serious on the left and that's part of the problem JCMach1 Dec 2023 #92

If what you say is true, we need to play their Emile Dec 2023 #94

Several things pinkstarburst Dec 2023 #90

In the future there are only two states in the Western Hemisphere. Those are Brazil and Canada. hunter Dec 2023 #91

Kick! bluestarone Dec 2023 #93