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EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
45. The purpose is to end Hamas.
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 09:06 PM
Oct 2023

Any solution you choose is grim. Israel is going to have to take the tunnels, which in many cases are under civilians. This is what Hamas planned for. You don't build tunnels like that overnight.

Hamas is like NK. Lil' Kim's people are starving and needy, while he uses money to fund his ambitious nuclear program, even though no one wants anything to do with him. He also has tunnels under the ground, which I read he had stocked with his favorite snack. Kim is ugly and cruel, executing his relatives and leaders in hideous ways. They all seem to copy one another, and they are not normal people.

Hamas cannot be allowed to remain in Gaza. They are every bit a threat to Gaza as Israel's ground war will be. And, where are the hostages? If I were a hostage, I'd be praying that someone was coming to rescue me. As long as Hamas has those hostages, Israel will be coming after them. The entire end of the game is on Hamas. It could be so easy to conclude the war, but Hamas has a human shield, and is continuing to lob shells out.

If we want Gaza to become a separate state, Hamas has got to go. Gaza can never be any more than a population of human cannon fodder if Hamas is allowed to remain in control. They will never, ever have any kind of prosperity, or freedom, or hope of freedom if Israel doesn't take care of Hamas. The Palestinians are not capable of solving this problem on their own.

We talk about diplomatic solutions. What kind of person beheads a baby? Kills kids in front of their parents, or burns people to death? Monsters do. And if they did it to Israelis, they wouldn't hesitate to do it to a Palestinian. They do not exist for the welfare of Gaza.

Many politicians and civilians are calling for an end to the bombing. Well, here come the ground troops. End of bombing, mostly. Still won't help. Safety corridors won't help. Aid workers will just become replacement human shields. I think the UN should change the optics and bring in 10,000 blue helmets from all over the world and arrest Hamas. Well armed and ready.

Hamas seems to be the elected government of Gaza. Well, that's a pickle. Seems like they started a war they can't finish. That's what they chose for their citizens, along with poverty, and third world status forever.

Meanwhile, back in Ukraine, no one cared about those people getting the shit bombed out of their civilians by Russia. Oh, they probably cared for awhile--I recall safe corridors that got bombed, civilian car caravans that got bombed, hospitals, apartments, markets, and all that, that were destroyed--but when they discovered that it wasn't going to stop, they just muted their objections. Well, this ME war isn't going to EVER stop unless Gaza is separated out and Hamas is permanently retired.

All those ME nations have a legitimate concern about the whole matter because they live next door. But, they don't have to have diplomatic relations with Hamas. Egypt stepped up, but I heard that Jordan wouldn't let refugees into their country. They know what they are doing. And they know about Hamas. It's just sad that nobody cared about the poor civilians before Hamas dragged them into a war they could never win without the Arab League joining in. And, as nasty as those guys are, the ME heads of state don't want WW3, either.

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Hamas barracks. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #1
So that makes it ok.. DemocratInPa Oct 2023 #2
Actually yes it becomes a military target and that's why Hamas does it GuppyGal Oct 2023 #4
So in other words.. DemocratInPa Oct 2023 #5
I have read that there were no patients there because the hospital was out of fuel. Ocelot II Oct 2023 #9
Like a ground invasion and heavily armed troops seizing the hospital? NickB79 Oct 2023 #11
They've been warned for weeks now. Go south. Tomconroy Oct 2023 #19
That being the case, seems to me, Hamas was the first to state "fuck those patients" Torchlight Oct 2023 #25
Yep n/t SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #6
If it is no longer a hospital sarisataka Oct 2023 #8
It was still a hospital.. DemocratInPa Oct 2023 #10
It was a military barracks. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #12
One- are we sure sarisataka Oct 2023 #15
In the mind of many, yes. Even on "our side" onecaliberal Oct 2023 #16
If it was a Hamas barracks TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #47
I don't believe that claudette Oct 2023 #26
Why not? sarisataka Oct 2023 #30
Where claudette Oct 2023 #37
Is that a rhetorical question? Bucky Oct 2023 #40
At the moment there is equal proof sarisataka Oct 2023 #42
I thought they had no fuel ??? GuppyGal Oct 2023 #3
Quite remarkable SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #7
I've found it interesting that there is no power or Internet access in Gaza AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #14
Hamas is using Palestinians as human shields by digging 500 miles of tunnels... Hekate Oct 2023 #13
That could be claudette Oct 2023 #28
No you're right TheProle Oct 2023 #34
You might want to do a bit of research on munitions SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #36
I don't know if we've shared. Igel Oct 2023 #38
I don't know either SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #39
ADL enid602 Oct 2023 #17
ADL is progressive. The extreme right and left have always had antisemitism in common. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #18
Destruction enid602 Oct 2023 #20
They were critical long before this xmas74 Oct 2023 #21
I remember the time when the left wing socialists were considered progressive Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #22
Fox enid602 Oct 2023 #23
Amazing isn't it FHRRK Oct 2023 #43
I looked at xitter. Not definitive but I haven't seen Tomconroy Oct 2023 #24
And you're claudette Oct 2023 #29
This is floating all over xitter by anti Israel sources Tomconroy Oct 2023 #33
And so many Mossfern Oct 2023 #31
There are now more bot posts saying the bombing Tomconroy Oct 2023 #44
The rationalization here... Le Sigh. WarGamer Oct 2023 #27
link? Mossfern Oct 2023 #32
Go on xitter and search Gaza cancer hospital. Tomconroy Oct 2023 #35
Perhaps the reasoning is that if you destroy the homes, hosptials and other infrastructure, that the former occupants Chainfire Oct 2023 #41
The purpose is to end Hamas. EndlessWire Oct 2023 #45
So, it is a case of the end justifies the means? Chainfire Oct 2023 #46
I didn't say that. EndlessWire Oct 2023 #48
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