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74. I also think there is some external manipulation, sir.

Thu Oct 12, 2023, 04:57 PM

Oct 2023

See my other post downthread. I believe that Hamas was encouraged to commit these atrocities with the full knowledge that chaos would ensue.

What is the single most divisive issue facing the West? Answer: our feelings about the Palestinian Israeli situation. It's so divisive on DU, a fairly mild-mannered corner of the internet, discussions on this topic are normally relegated to a single forum.

For the people intent on stirring up chaos and dissension to distract, this is a gold mine. The rapid, consistent peo-Palestinian messaging that swept across the internet like a tsunami is a clue.

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Hamas are the bad guys in this. Full stop. [View all] RandySF Oct 2023 OP

Speaking truth to power. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #1

Yup, you're correct. Sadly a lot of people hate Jews so much they're willing to defend Hamas Marius25 Oct 2023 #2

NO ONE here is defending Hamas, stop sayng it. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #6

No they are just saying Israel can't retaliate against Hamas ripcord Oct 2023 #9

Can you point a curious party to specific posts saying that? Thanks in advance. eom RockRaven Oct 2023 #10

False, people aren't just going let a MIC conflate Palestinians with HAMAS uponit7771 Oct 2023 #15

Not saying that either. stopdiggin Oct 2023 #25

I disagree. Marius25 Oct 2023 #11

Show me. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #13

I've seen "BOTH SIDES" Until I'm Cha Oct 2023 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Oct 2023 #22

Yes! Exactly! . . . n/t wackadoo wabbit Oct 2023 #33

I have seen lotsa "Bothsides" Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #28

Angrychair said it best. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #30

Yesterday different posters told me the slaughter sarisataka Oct 2023 #32

I am getting really fed up with certain posters' accusations obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #62

Not happening. stopdiggin Oct 2023 #27

It's not just this board. There are left-wing, Free Palestine rallies going on globally Marius25 Oct 2023 #29

I'm talking about this board stopdiggin Oct 2023 #53

Link to any DUer saying "Gas the Jews" obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #64

Well said obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #63

Okay, I'll say it: I Do Not Understand what the problem is with the Jews. calimary Oct 2023 #43

There aren't any valid reasons to "hate the Jews". Caliman73 Oct 2023 #75

Thank you. I kinda knew that but you presented it beautifully, and reminded me of a few things. calimary Oct 2023 #79

Links? TiberiusB Oct 2023 #45

Bad public relations coaching by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. Frasier Balzov Oct 2023 #3

Kicked. n/t GP6971 Oct 2023 #4

Thank you, Randy. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #5

False, I can separate Russians from KaPutin, America from MAGA and Palestinians from Hamas ... uponit7771 Oct 2023 #7

That's exactly what the people in Gaza did AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #12

This is bullshit MIC, why repeat it here on DU as if we're LIV? (link) uponit7771 Oct 2023 #14

Who won that election? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #16

17 years ago and doesn't reflect Palestinians today? Hamas uponit7771 Oct 2023 #19

You said they didn't choose Hamas AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #26

And Americans selected Trump TiberiusB Oct 2023 #46

And that has nothing to do with the discussion AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #48

So the country is cured and we don't have to worry about the current state of the nation TiberiusB Oct 2023 #50

Agree AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #52

Pointing to the election of Hamas by a single group and condemning the whole TiberiusB Oct 2023 #69

Exactly....this kind of deep separation, good vs evil, black/white is just what putin and other PortTack Oct 2023 #54

The Palestinians *TODAY* did not choose Hamas stop with the semantics uponit7771 Oct 2023 #58

Trump was elected in 2016 and suspended all elections, and it is now 2033 obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #67

What is he talking about with the Bin Laden thing? Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #21

Basically.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #31

Got it. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #35

it was fleshed out a little better in an earlier post stopdiggin Oct 2023 #34

Wrong, this has been debunked hundreds of times on here obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #65

Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #8

Fuck Hamas! Initech Oct 2023 #17

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2023 #20

Agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2023 #23

Absolutely! nt Raine Oct 2023 #36

Mahalo RandySF! 🤷‍♀️💕🤷‍♂️💕 Cha Oct 2023 #24

I'm on the other bandwagon Get Me Outta Here Oct 2023 #37

Definitely some cause and effect going on. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #38

Thanks. Feeling out of place here. Get Me Outta Here Oct 2023 #40

Been here almost ten years and still feel that way. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #44

Don't feel that way AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #60

I Do Not Think So, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #49

Hi sir Lithos Oct 2023 #55

I've Been Mostly Steering Clear, My Friend The Magistrate Oct 2023 #56

It's good to see you, Lithos. yardwork Oct 2023 #76

I also think there is some external manipulation, sir. yardwork Oct 2023 #74

To Me, Sir, That Is Beside The Point The Magistrate Oct 2023 #78

I don't disagree about the personal responsibility, Sir. yardwork Oct 2023 #81

I'm Losing My Touch Or My Memory, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2023 #82

So you support ISIS terrorism against Europe and the US? Marius25 Oct 2023 #59

And no one is ever asked to condemn israel for those things redqueen Oct 2023 #66

I hear and read many, many people condemning Israel's policies. yardwork Oct 2023 #77

You would rape women and torture and murder peaceful civilans and children? Mossfern Oct 2023 #83

equating Hamas with all Palestinians iemanja Oct 2023 #39

Yup. swong19104 Oct 2023 #41

Palestine is 40% children, who are these kamikazes you speak of? onecaliberal Oct 2023 #47

Hamas is the kamikaze pilot, Palestinians are the plane The Revolution Oct 2023 #61

Absolutely budkin Oct 2023 #42

I condemn the atrocities of Hamas but hope the world is still compassionate GoodRaisin Oct 2023 #51

Exactly NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #57

The only "good guys" are the innocent civilians obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #68

Absolutely agree nt Raine Oct 2023 #70

agreed Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #71

If old enough, we've been dealing with this conflict treestar Oct 2023 #72

Jimmy was radical, the 1st President to promote human rights as an issue. Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #80

You sound like your memory us about as long as mine ripcord Oct 2023 #85

There is a coordinated effort to make people see this differently. yardwork Oct 2023 #73

You are right BUT dwayneb Oct 2023 #84