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In reply to the discussion: Does it feel like most Americans are ignoring the insane rise of fascism? [View all]Abolishinist
(2,804 posts)112. I wasn't familiar with Professor Kimber Quinney, after looking her up
I find she's a fellow San Diegan. A dozen or so years ago I purchased a number of books (by noted scholars) on F(f)ascism, some read, some skimmed - and was fascinated by at once the subtle differences in their attempts to define the term and the outright 180 degree differences in opinion.
Most of what I read tended to place great emphasis on the inter-war period. In the end, I found Robert Paxton to be my fave. However, if you're familiar with Zeev Sternhell, his approach got me interested in some other topics as well, as it is his opinion that the beginnings go back to the fin-de-siecle.
The historian Zeev Sternhell has traced the ideological roots of fascism back to the 1880s, and in particular to the fin-de-siècle (French for end of the century) theme of that time. This ideology was based on a revolt against materialism, rationalism, positivism, bourgeois society, and democracy. The fin-de-siècle generation supported emotionalism, irrationalism, subjectivism, and vitalism. The fin-de-siècle mindset saw civilization as being in a crisis that required a massive and total solution. Its intellectual school considered the individual only one part of the larger collectivity, which should not be viewed as an atomized numerical sum of individuals. They condemned the rationalistic individualism of liberal society and the dissolution of social links in bourgeois society.
In the end, I found his take to be an interesting, albeit much too involved, journey, but as I said, it opened other doors for exploration, such as Vichy France and the Dreyfus affair. Sternhell, as I recall, did not even consider the Nazis to be fascists.
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Does it feel like most Americans are ignoring the insane rise of fascism? [View all]
Marius25
Apr 2023
OP
When I visit my family in Cuba, they have all of the things the US is missing. No gun murders.
Marcus IM
Apr 2023
#30
There is almost nothing I "love" about the US, but it's the only culture that I understand well
HeartachesNhangovers
Apr 2023
#94
Me, too, and I'm fearful we're walking into a nightmare with our eyes wide shut.
Deuxcents
Apr 2023
#11
To the contrary, Stahl took on one of the most dangerous political figures in the country.
Just A Box Of Rain
Apr 2023
#10
Don't waste the time, Skittles. I believe that you're absolutely already aware of
littlemissmartypants
Apr 2023
#24
I feel that it is an important part of a free press to provide voters with the information they need
Just A Box Of Rain
Apr 2023
#75
Perhaps you missed the recent news reports of neo-Nazis protesting against drag queens in Ohio...
AntiFascist
Apr 2023
#40
I understand the point that fascism needs power in government in order to back it up...
AntiFascist
Apr 2023
#110
And with the digital world, it's much easier than in the 30's to track those they find undesirable.
C Moon
Apr 2023
#23
No. But media would love for you to feel the fear of that possibility so you'll keep
ancianita
Apr 2023
#28
The truth is not ok. You are right about the violence behind all this 'legalized' suffering.
ancianita
Apr 2023
#58
Well the young generations (along with Black women) saved our butts in the last 3 election cycles.
Sky Jewels
Apr 2023
#67
I think at this point, it seems like a battle to keep from going over the edge of the abyss
DFW
Apr 2023
#41
Historically, those of us who have been calling them fascists, and warning people
Roisin Ni Fiachra
Apr 2023
#48
Why do you say Democrats listen to fascist hate radio, influencers and Fox News?
betsuni
Apr 2023
#52
Yes. If the fascist take the presidency democracy will die. They will suspend the constitution
Hotler
Apr 2023
#57
The media/press doesn't vote but they aid the spread of propaganda by not pushing back and/or . . .
peggysue2
Apr 2023
#93
No, It was the second most important issue of the midterm...about the same as abortion...
Demsrule86
Apr 2023
#69
Fascism is already happening and I don't think we can stop it at this point
liberal_mama
Apr 2023
#71
Some call it Fascism. It's anti-democratic authoritarianism of corporate interest
Model35mech
Apr 2023
#111