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MyOwnPeace

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24. It is going to get NASTY!

Sat Jan 28, 2023, 06:58 PM

Jan 2023

The owners of the blacksmith shops and horse & buggy sales businesses were not happy when the govt. started using tax money to actually 'pave' roads.
And the RAILROAD MAGNATES did "NOT LIKE IKE" when he had the government pay for super-highways (Interstate System) so that people could drive-&-arrive without having to buy a ticket from the railroads. The loss of income from that led to the collapse of many of the rail empires.
So now we're seeing the battle between gas-vs-electric. Each has their own supply system and each has a vested interest in surviving - if not GROWING! Who will the government support/aid - petroleum or technology/electric?
Truth is, it's going to take tons of POLITICAL COURAGE to lead the country forward - and POLITICAL COURAGE has become a 'LONG-LOST' item in our government.

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Driving 100 Miles in an EV Is Now More Expensive Than in an ICE [View all] NickB79 Jan 2023 OP

Makes sense to me. Native Jan 2023 #1

Guess I'm still glad for my hybrid Easterncedar Jan 2023 #2

We're part of an energy cooperative, and we were only paying about $6 Native Jan 2023 #5

Hybrids seem to be the best way to go now. brush Jan 2023 #6

I disagree. We've got a Volt still under warranty, and we are selling it as soon as we can. Native Jan 2023 #11

Sorry, you seem to have bought the wrong hybrid. brush Jan 2023 #17

Gushing? I simply mentioned how much we were paying per kwh. Native Jan 2023 #22

Did you see post 2? brush Jan 2023 #23

Yes. We both have hybrids. I'm not following you. As I said, I simply commented Native Jan 2023 #25

I have a friend whose Tesla was damaged when somebody sideswiped him in a parking lot. Turns Martin68 Jan 2023 #68

Cost-benefit analyses are complex bucolic_frolic Jan 2023 #3

Yes. Comments here show how confused people are. apnu Jan 2023 #57

From the AEG link in the article: sl8 Jan 2023 #59

I missed that, thanks for the detail, confirms what I was saying. apnu Jan 2023 #60

On IC cars oil, trans fluid, oil changes etc... brush Jan 2023 #4

I call Bullshit. Meadowoak Jan 2023 #7

Yes. CentralMass Jan 2023 #21

I do, too. Particularly when you factor in maintenance. Combustion engines have too many moving Martin68 Jan 2023 #26

Aren't the batteries 5 or 6k in an EV newdayneeded Jan 2023 #53

My battery is warranted for 10 years/100,000 miles. Liberal In Texas Jan 2023 #56

Agreed our EV costs way less per mile than the ICE tinrobot Jan 2023 #29

Yep...reads like total BS Bengus81 Jan 2023 #55

My electric rate is 8 cents per kWh in KY, compared to $3.19 Meadowoak Jan 2023 #58

Pretty easy to do the math tinrobot Jan 2023 #69

Your BS meter is correct. My Volt goes through about $20 of electricity JCMach1 Jan 2023 #61

Wouldn't this depend on how much you pay for a gallon of gasoline and... Tikki Jan 2023 #8

Well that'll change. They do have solar chargers now. Ellipsis Jan 2023 #9

The cars are more expensive too. Initech Jan 2023 #10

And the dealers are adding on thousands on top of the MSRP. Native Jan 2023 #20

These $90k- 100k 9,000lb pigs are not the way to go. CentralMass Jan 2023 #27

Looks like a death trap. nt doc03 Jan 2023 #31

What is that thing???? Initech Jan 2023 #37

That maybe 😂 it an extremely aerodynamic two set EV vehicle CentralMass Jan 2023 #40

Jay Leno had it on his show: EX500rider Jan 2023 #63

+1 CentralMass Jan 2023 #65

A Chevy Bolt costs less than $30k new. tinrobot Jan 2023 #34

Road taxes will increase for EV users also madville Jan 2023 #12

I can make my own electricity in my backyard cutroot Jan 2023 #13

With the right equipment, sure. But then, you can make biofuels in your backyard too NickB79 Jan 2023 #15

Biodiesel is even easier jmowreader Jan 2023 #32

Not If You Care About Toxic Emissions ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #52

At least until the revenuers shut me down cutroot Jan 2023 #41

Can a hybrid save me money? Comparing a 2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid XLE doc03 Jan 2023 #14

That's an interesting website. progressoid Jan 2023 #19

It doesn't consider resale value or insurance. I don't know what kind of resale value they have. doc03 Jan 2023 #30

propaganda EmeraldCoaster Jan 2023 #16

its 10 cents to the dollar EmeraldCoaster Jan 2023 #18

It is going to get NASTY! MyOwnPeace Jan 2023 #24

Notice how the report neglected to include - werdna Jan 2023 #28

You forgot to add the cost of planetary omnicide due to climate change. n/t. airplaneman Jan 2023 #35

I think the article is bullshit. CentralMass Jan 2023 #33

What nonsense. Liberal In Texas Jan 2023 #36

Sure, if you factor in expenses that EV drivers don't actually have to deal with fishwax Jan 2023 #38

If your rooftop solar charges the car... Bobstandard Jan 2023 #39

Henry Ford the anti-semite and conspiracy loon 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2023 #42

Nah. I pay about $5 for 100 miles MissB Jan 2023 #43

So, roughly $1 per day? Meadowoak Jan 2023 #48

Yes. MissB Jan 2023 #49

Also, the report says that luxury EVs are still cheaper to fuel than their ICE counterparts. nt sl8 Jan 2023 #44

And maintenance costs? LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #45

Minimal MissB Jan 2023 #50

A report with an agenda behind it moniss Jan 2023 #46

EV just doesn't make sense right now mcar Jan 2023 #47

Our gas is back up to $3.19. nt leftyladyfrommo Jan 2023 #51

!00 miles is more than I drive almost always so pwb Jan 2023 #54

Well! If the Anderson Economic Group says so, it MUST be true! Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #62

Kinda like when you go camping and the closest place to pee is in a stream near where others are jalan48 Jan 2023 #64

horse puckey edhopper Jan 2023 #66

What if I have solar at home and do most of my charging there? Sympthsical Jan 2023 #67

Have you or do you expect Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #71

Not really Sympthsical Jan 2023 #72

I would like to see all factors for both EV and ICE. friend of a friend Jan 2023 #70

If you own and drive a car your environmental footprint is huge. End of story. hunter Jan 2023 #73