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treestar

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61. Yes, we always have that happening

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:26 PM

Oct 2022

which is one reason why the DP should be abolished.

This defendant was guilty, as the evidence was clear. But the penalty is another matter.

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Family Member Of Child Murdered By Cruz, Said Jury Verdict Was 11-1 In Favor Of Death [View all] SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 OP

he will have a lifetime of a tortured existance. samnsara Oct 2022 #1

So Will The Families Of His Victims SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #2

This guy should be put to death. That would be the best closure for the families. honest.abe Oct 2022 #7

Except that it doesn't actually bring closure. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #43

It is unfortunate the process takes so long. honest.abe Oct 2022 #48

The process takes so long because when we move faster, we murder innocent people. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #52

15-20 years is too long. honest.abe Oct 2022 #54

You'd inthewind21 Oct 2022 #55

Yeah, but in this case there is no question of guilt. honest.abe Oct 2022 #65

So what inthewind21 Oct 2022 #72

You wrote: "if it were you tangled in that process and innocent." honest.abe Oct 2022 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Oct 2022 #56

So you're ok with the state killing innocent people. Gotcha. N/t Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #84

No. Of course not. In this case clearly the dude is guilty and deserves the death penalty. honest.abe Oct 2022 #93

You can't have it both ways. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #95

Yes unfortunately that is the problem. honest.abe Oct 2022 #96

Unless it's you or someone you know in prison and innocent. BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #87

This guy is not innocent. He is guilty as sin and slaughtered innocent children. He admits it. honest.abe Oct 2022 #94

Yes, but allowing the death penalty to continue means an innocent person WILL be executed. BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #97

You make some good points. honest.abe Oct 2022 #99

And even the prospect of murdering ONE innocent person is too much for me. BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #86

Completely agree. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #90

The death inthewind21 Oct 2022 #53

Yep ornotna Oct 2022 #5

Life can be short in prison for killing children. nt Samrob Oct 2022 #34

Agreed 100% BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #85

Thank god for that holdout Blues Heron Oct 2022 #3

Yeah, the families. GoodRaisin Oct 2022 #20

The verdict and sentence are proper. There is never any justice for the victim of any violence ... marble falls Oct 2022 #4

+1 mike_c Oct 2022 #21

Hard to believe 1 person can negate the will of the other other 11 juror's. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #6

More likely, they were asked if they could consider the death penalty equally to life WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #10

Well atreides1 Oct 2022 #11

It does not jmowreader Oct 2022 #41

Jury decisions should always be 100% agreement. GoodRaisin Oct 2022 #24

Agreed! ProfessorGAC Oct 2022 #27

Yes, we always have that happening treestar Oct 2022 #61

NYTimes is reporting 3 voted against death penalty Hamlette Oct 2022 #33

Why assume that? If they are death-qualified it does not treestar Oct 2022 #60

Maybe because it's the ultimate punishment, it has to be unanimous? BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #88

Kick. N/T Upthevibe Oct 2022 #8

That one is a brave person. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #9

I didn't see the whole thing, FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #12

Not quite a smirk... DET Oct 2022 #17

Lol good lord. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #19

I mean... I feel like being relieved that one isn't to be executed is fairly reasonable. Jedi Guy Oct 2022 #37

I gotta admit I'm a little disgusted at people, including the families, going after the jury. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2022 #67

Bingo inthewind21 Oct 2022 #73

Agreed BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #89

To everyone who is in favor of the death penalty: PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #13

I'm not in favor of the death penalty Buckeyeblue Oct 2022 #14

How about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth? honest.abe Oct 2022 #16

Where is that in the Ten Commandments or the New Testament? yardwork Oct 2022 #44

A commandment found in the Book of Exodus 21:23-27 honest.abe Oct 2022 #47

That's the Old Testament. yardwork Oct 2022 #49

Yes of course I knew that. So what's the problem? honest.abe Oct 2022 #50

Well inthewind21 Oct 2022 #57

None specifically. honest.abe Oct 2022 #66

My faith inthewind21 Oct 2022 #78

I did answer. honest.abe Oct 2022 #80

It's not old to Jews. Mosby Oct 2022 #76

Bingo inthewind21 Oct 2022 #79

leaves the whole world blind. iemanja Oct 2022 #70

The commandment is against murder, not killing Jose Garcia Oct 2022 #22

Let's, someone murdered ends up just as dead as PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #36

It is literally against killing. Voltaire2 Oct 2022 #45

Pretty sure inthewind21 Oct 2022 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 2022 #77

I know inthewind21 Oct 2022 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 2022 #82

If you had actually read the stories Mariana Oct 2022 #91

Thou shall not kill is a mistranslation Mosby Oct 2022 #75

I'm against the death penalty but not for the reasons you asked Javaman Oct 2022 #83

We have a secular government. Mariana Oct 2022 #92

I think Cruz is mentally screwed up pinkstarburst Oct 2022 #15

I strongly suspect that Florida's prison system will wipe that smirk off his face. Aristus Oct 2022 #18

He will probably be kept out of the general population Jose Garcia Oct 2022 #23

If everyone who feared violent treatment from their fellow inmates Aristus Oct 2022 #25

Most prisons and jails allow inmates to request transfers to other pods/holding areas. Jedi Guy Oct 2022 #38

I'm glad not to be on juries like this one. Torchlight Oct 2022 #26

I Got Lucky In 2020 ProfessorGAC Oct 2022 #31

Happens inthewind21 Oct 2022 #64

I'm not against the death penalty because I don't want scum like Cruz dead Mysterian Oct 2022 #28

the NYT is reporting a 9-3 vote mike_c Oct 2022 #29

Self delete Emile Oct 2022 #30

Why? obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #40

Because I want his life to be a living hell! Emile Oct 2022 #42

He shouldn't have a cellie. He should get the ADX Florence SHU treatment. sir pball Oct 2022 #46

No, that is wrong treestar Oct 2022 #63

It was 9-3 kcr Oct 2022 #32

I would not criticize any of those parents for wanting the DP. But in the decades that likely hlthe2b Oct 2022 #35

I don't think the death penalty is necessarily the ultimate punishment. Life would be more agonizing cherish44 Oct 2022 #39

I commend all the jurors. They all have to sleep at night and be comfortable ecstatic Oct 2022 #51

Personally I like the idea of him rotting in jail for 50 years. fescuerescue Oct 2022 #59

I'd vote for life in prison Kaleva Oct 2022 #62

Most of us would have been excluded from the jury iemanja Oct 2022 #69

I didn't know that Kaleva Oct 2022 #71

The juror has been doxxed iemanja Oct 2022 #68

how do you know? orleans Oct 2022 #98

I read it in another thread. iemanja Oct 2022 #101

Maybe one of the prisoners will take care of it. Many don't like people convicted of crimes helpisontheway Oct 2022 #100