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149. From the outset it was reported there were crew on board the train.

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 01:11 PM

Apr 2022

I'm unaware of NJ Transit trains that don't have operators.

Was the operator paying attention? Was there something he/she could've done to avoid the accident? Those are the sorts of questions an investigation likely will cover -- and its why the investigation won't be done in less than a week's time.

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How did Eric Boehlert die? [View all] Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 OP

Are you suggesting Mad_Machine76 Apr 2022 #1

Wondering why we don't have the facts. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #5

Hit by a train, bicycling at 10 pm Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #18

Had a few drinks? Why add something, totally unsupported, that smears Boehlert? Nevilledog Apr 2022 #84

I didn't ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #108

Thanks. I have biked many a time after a few drinks. Nothing illegal Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #151

In Santa Barbara people drmeow Apr 2022 #191

I Didn't Either RobinA Apr 2022 #183

He belongs to the Montclair social club which is near the accident RAB910 Apr 2022 #209

Hit by a train on a bike is unusual to say the least. brush Apr 2022 #86

Why do you assume he did not fall first? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #100

Why do you assume he fell first? All questions need to be answered. brush Apr 2022 #102

I don't Effete Snob Apr 2022 #109

And you seem to be saying he wasn't aware that RR crossing... brush Apr 2022 #111

Cyclist fall at grade crossings all of the tine Effete Snob Apr 2022 #115

WTH is wrong with an investigation to find out how it happened instead... brush Apr 2022 #119

The NTSB is conducting one Effete Snob Apr 2022 #124

If there's an investigation going on, good. You stated that to me in what post... brush Apr 2022 #129

WTH is this with assuming there is not already an investigation? . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #128

If there is, good. Much better than just accepting a report that a cyclist... brush Apr 2022 #131

If an animal say "moo" Effete Snob Apr 2022 #134

Ok. You're makiing more and more sense. brush Apr 2022 #138

Unsurprising you are unfamiliar with this type of thing. Effete Snob Apr 2022 #139

Ok, again. Cyclist hit by a train and dies. Case closed. brush Apr 2022 #142

Enjoy your bubble Effete Snob Apr 2022 #146

Good luck. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #153

Why wouldn't there be an investigation? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #170

He may have tried to beat it. Then caught a wheel and fell. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #154

Ok. brush Apr 2022 #155

My BIL used to do triathlons, was riding last month and started to lose consciousness, hit a car. TheBlackAdder Apr 2022 #202

A commute has what to do with a triathlon? brush Apr 2022 #204

He's a fit cyclist and he even drove into a parked car. There might have been medical factor. TheBlackAdder Apr 2022 #205

My ex husband was hit by a train on his bicycle. It was broad daylight. gldstwmn Apr 2022 #211

The local police don't have jurisdiction Effete Snob Apr 2022 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2022 #216

WHY do you need to know what happened? brooklynite Apr 2022 #2

Democracy depends on the truth. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #7

Is there ANY evidence that this wasn't an accident? nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #8

I don't know. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #11

Welp, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #13

That's what needs to be understood. Was it an accident or not? brush Apr 2022 #105

Did you bother to research this at all? brooklynite Apr 2022 #44

Where in any of that are the facts? The details? The circumstances? Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #53

How did it happen? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #57

You are attempting to say I wrote or implied that. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #60

And then you proceeded to post about CIA assassination techniques. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #65

To show you that pros have a book on it. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #67

From 60 years ago? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #72

I like the emoji. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #78

What facts????? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #80

There is a type... Effete Snob Apr 2022 #110

Actually we know the approximate time: 9:40 onenote Apr 2022 #83

Fact: he was hit by a train. Riding a bicycle. brooklynite Apr 2022 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Apr 2022 #61

LOL! Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #17

His last report... Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #35

And this is supposed to mean................What? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #39

It is his last article. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #42

He was more than a good writer, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #46

He died in a bicycle accident, being hit by a train. brooklynite Apr 2022 #48

how could he not hear the train? WhiteTara Apr 2022 #140

Maybe he did and thought he could get across. brooklynite Apr 2022 #144

"Thousands of people get hit by trains" Effete Snob Apr 2022 #150

You have evidence of that? Have you shared it with the police? brooklynite Apr 2022 #159

Evidence of what? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #162

I interpreted you coming from the other direction brooklynite Apr 2022 #164

Would you mind answering then? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #166

As a professional, I'd say none... brooklynite Apr 2022 #168

So, what you are saying... Effete Snob Apr 2022 #169

I do. WhiteTara Apr 2022 #167

It might change how a person rides a bike treestar Apr 2022 #187

That would be a reasonable response, but not the one I got... brooklynite Apr 2022 #190

I don't understand your thread, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #3

Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #9

Yeeeaaahhh, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #12

please take this to Creative Speculation, it is wandering into CT territory Celerity Apr 2022 #14

Really? Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #16

hired assassins? really? Celerity Apr 2022 #23

Yeah, that's definitely wandering into CT land. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #25

No, that's from CIA's "A Study of Assassination." Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #29

You're attempting to suggest that Eric's death was something other than an accident MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #31

It is pure speculation to post about assassination, and disingenuous to say "I'm not speculating!" Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #43

It specifically named Boehlert? iemanja Apr 2022 #182

Now you're putting words in my OP. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #26

you just made a post about professional assassins, I put nothing on your mouth Celerity Apr 2022 #28

You want to shut down discussion of Boehlert's death. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #30

Nobody is attempting to shut down discussions on Boehlert's death, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #33

Lol, show me where I doing that. I am calling out speculation by you wherein you are injecting Celerity Apr 2022 #36

No. We are trying to get you back on an even keel where you started in your OP. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #37

Actually, that post was a reply to the post blm Apr 2022 #62

the post they replied did not say 'accidents are just accidents'. so that is non starter Celerity Apr 2022 #70

Earlier in that exchange. blm Apr 2022 #79

again you are making errors in the construction of your argument Celerity Apr 2022 #87

I am reading the thread as it appears. blm Apr 2022 #97

Revisionist framing of the events that transpired, and that I have already documented in Celerity Apr 2022 #113

As I said, in future I'll be more mindful of blm Apr 2022 #130

Many posters will take issue with being implied to have done, or asked about things they did not do. Celerity Apr 2022 #148

False accusation. You wrote "Professional assassins ..." & Celerity wrote "hired assassins? really?" Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #45

Maybe they were professionals, but assassinating in their spare time Effete Snob Apr 2022 #197

Same ones that got Michael Hastings, I'd bet Effete Snob Apr 2022 #175

I am not an expert on that, I was 16, in London still, and buried in uni. I recall it vaguely. Celerity Apr 2022 #177

He had a lot of fans here Effete Snob Apr 2022 #179

I refer you to your Original Post where you admit you don't have facts. So post 9 is speculation Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #32

Right, in answer to a reply. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #38

The question asked if you are suggesting X, you then post about X, and then get offended Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #50

Who's not on an even keel? Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #58

You Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #59

more non sequiturs Celerity Apr 2022 #96

FFS, self delete! Nt USALiberal Apr 2022 #41

Like a tag team. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #47

Instead of considering that so many people believe you aren't thinking logically, you get defensive Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #55

Well, duh Effete Snob Apr 2022 #117

LOL. Tucker Carlson says he is "just asking questions". :) . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #123

No one is tag teaming, multiple posters are simply taking issue with you positings. Celerity Apr 2022 #99

It's a plot! Effete Snob Apr 2022 #116

So the professional assassins furtively got someone hired as an engineer by New Jersey Transit... brooklynite Apr 2022 #52

That's why I ask. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #74

You know what else sounds far-fetched? brooklynite Apr 2022 #81

As you probably know Effete Snob Apr 2022 #103

He was an important liberal journalist. We should at least ask some questions. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #4

Thank you. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #15

Has his family said ANYTHING about this not being a tragic accident? nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #20

Nope Effete Snob Apr 2022 #118

LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #173

We know Putin is capable of anything. Naive to think otherwise. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #21

Absolutely capable of anything. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #66

It should be up to his family what details are shared. Boomerproud Apr 2022 #6

Were it suicide, perhaps. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #19

No we aren't entitled to a report. His family is. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #68

Not real sure about that CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #73

Sure, the public has a right to know safety issues. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #89

That is an excellent point. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #93

And the NTSB will investigate and report Effete Snob Apr 2022 #104

Exactly! And when the report is completed they will release it Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #160

I'm not the person to ask that. CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #174

Don't think so treestar Apr 2022 #189

Have to admit snowybirdie Apr 2022 #10

Thank you. It'll be a week tomorrow. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #24

I bet Putin did it! BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #156

But, but...why was he walking on a highway before 7 in the morning? BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #178

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #92

+1, ... and a good portion of that "power" was the M$M uponit7771 Apr 2022 #120

✔️ blm Apr 2022 #133

✔️ blm Apr 2022 #132

. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #22

Thank You!!!! nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #27

Please post when it's available. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #40

Two thoughts PJMcK Apr 2022 #34

The shock reminded me of Gary Webb's death. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #51

The first was not a kill shot; it lodged in his cheek. shrike3 Apr 2022 #180

It's ridiculously easy to misjudge how far Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #76

When I read that he was out at ten o'clock, I thought, "Yikes." shrike3 Apr 2022 #181

He belongs to the Montclair social club which is near the accident RAB910 Apr 2022 #210

You do know the Federal Railroad Administration has jurisdiction Historic NY Apr 2022 #49

No, I had not read that. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #54

My guess is the impact with tons of metal going at a certain speed Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #63

As a transportation professional, allow me to offer some perspective. brooklynite Apr 2022 #64

Two things Effete Snob Apr 2022 #106

Maybe wearing head phone or portable iPhone ear pieces listening to podcast? FloridaBlues Apr 2022 #69

Montclair is a great, liberal, and diverse town FelineOverlord Apr 2022 #71

Maybe his family doesn't want details released Sympthsical Apr 2022 #75

Its being investigated. And investigations take time onenote Apr 2022 #95

Back in my cycling days kcr Apr 2022 #77

Bingo Effete Snob Apr 2022 #107

If no one saw him fall kcr Apr 2022 #157

That will be clear from the evidence Effete Snob Apr 2022 #165

It's disappointing to see fellow members twist your actual *question* into a CT theory. msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #82

The OP posted about CIA assassins in thread Sympthsical Apr 2022 #88

I didn't read it that way, I read a question being asked, seeking an answer. msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #193

I was not the OP part, it was when they went all CT (professional assassins, etc) in the replies: Celerity Apr 2022 #214

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Apr 2022 #122

I see UnderThisLaw Apr 2022 #85

Well, it's a question anyway. Iggo Apr 2022 #90

As yours UnderThisLaw Apr 2022 #91

I'm curious about this myself Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #94

+1, also was there anyone operating the train!? The question is valid uponit7771 Apr 2022 #126

From the outset it was reported there were crew on board the train. onenote Apr 2022 #149

But the blogosphere demands immediate results! brooklynite Apr 2022 #176

I doubt the train could have avoided him. Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #171

. Effete Snob Apr 2022 #199

"They were calling it a bicycle accident and then we learned he was hit by a train" onenote Apr 2022 #137

Hey I said I was curious Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #163

Please watch this video Effete Snob Apr 2022 #186

Is that the intersection in Watchung where Boehlert crashed? n/t Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #194

No, it is not Effete Snob Apr 2022 #195

So what is your hypothesis? Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #196

My hypothesis Effete Snob Apr 2022 #198

Still asking what your hypothesis is, cuz what you said is not a hypothesis for Boehlert Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #200

Well you've have to wait for the report Effete Snob Apr 2022 #201

Well then I'll wait for the report, and Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #203

Here's some more information for you Effete Snob Apr 2022 #212

Now that is a theory by gosh Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #213

Of course. Nothing wrong with treestar Apr 2022 #188

Because it was a train, there will be an NTSB report Effete Snob Apr 2022 #98

Not necessarily. The Federal Railroad Administration typically investigates onenote Apr 2022 #143

49 CFR § 831.40 - Authority of NTSB in railroad, pipeline, and hazardous materials investigations. Effete Snob Apr 2022 #147

This is why Alex Jones is being sued by Sandy Hook families Effete Snob Apr 2022 #112

umm - not like Alex Jones at all. Experienced cyclist killed by train certainly raises questions. AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2022 #141

Your simple question sure has generated a lot of kerfuffle - hmm. Makes me even more curious. AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2022 #114

By reply #9, the thread starter had replied with "CIA assassinations made to look like accidents" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2022 #161

+100000000 Celerity Apr 2022 #215

He thought he could beat the train. alphafemale Apr 2022 #121

That's unusual and investigation is in order. I can't find anything in regards to NTSB investigating uponit7771 Apr 2022 #125

The NTSB takes a long time Effete Snob Apr 2022 #127

At minimum ntsb publishes there's an investigation, I've not seen anything on it uponit7771 Apr 2022 #135

NTSB doesn't generally investigate bicycle train incidents onenote Apr 2022 #145

Nope Effete Snob Apr 2022 #152

This. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #158

Boy, have we gotten paranoid. It's terrible when you leftyladyfrommo Apr 2022 #136

A reminder of the physics of a commuter train brooklynite Apr 2022 #172

And bikes... Effete Snob Apr 2022 #185

I until recently lived near near two commuter rail stops out near Portland Oregon. CentralMass Apr 2022 #184

We often find that the most simple of explanations is what happened during these tragedies. SmallFry Apr 2022 #192

he played chicken with a train Skittles Apr 2022 #206

Has more information been released? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #207

He is a member of the Montclair social club RAB910 Apr 2022 #208