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97. I am reading the thread as it appears.

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:51 AM

Apr 2022

And as it appears, not in exact order, there is a consistent attack on Kid that is out of proportion to what he actually posted. His reply about accidents was not off base for a political discussion forum. Has it been decided that there are no dark forces working against democracy these days, so, accidents are no longer questioned here at DU?

When it’s read as a thread from top to bottom some of you are coming off as unnecessarily mean and nitpicking. That is the general overview, imo.

Your overthetop reply here to me as if you are being singled out about a thread full of replies is just absurd nitpicking. I will make note for the future, however, that you are not receptive to the general view of posters being used in a reply to the specific you.

Nitpick away.

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How did Eric Boehlert die? [View all] Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 OP

Are you suggesting Mad_Machine76 Apr 2022 #1

Wondering why we don't have the facts. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #5

Hit by a train, bicycling at 10 pm Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #18

Had a few drinks? Why add something, totally unsupported, that smears Boehlert? Nevilledog Apr 2022 #84

I didn't ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #108

Thanks. I have biked many a time after a few drinks. Nothing illegal Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #151

In Santa Barbara people drmeow Apr 2022 #191

I Didn't Either RobinA Apr 2022 #183

He belongs to the Montclair social club which is near the accident RAB910 Apr 2022 #209

Hit by a train on a bike is unusual to say the least. brush Apr 2022 #86

Why do you assume he did not fall first? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #100

Why do you assume he fell first? All questions need to be answered. brush Apr 2022 #102

I don't Effete Snob Apr 2022 #109

And you seem to be saying he wasn't aware that RR crossing... brush Apr 2022 #111

Cyclist fall at grade crossings all of the tine Effete Snob Apr 2022 #115

WTH is wrong with an investigation to find out how it happened instead... brush Apr 2022 #119

The NTSB is conducting one Effete Snob Apr 2022 #124

If there's an investigation going on, good. You stated that to me in what post... brush Apr 2022 #129

WTH is this with assuming there is not already an investigation? . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #128

If there is, good. Much better than just accepting a report that a cyclist... brush Apr 2022 #131

If an animal say "moo" Effete Snob Apr 2022 #134

Ok. You're makiing more and more sense. brush Apr 2022 #138

Unsurprising you are unfamiliar with this type of thing. Effete Snob Apr 2022 #139

Ok, again. Cyclist hit by a train and dies. Case closed. brush Apr 2022 #142

Enjoy your bubble Effete Snob Apr 2022 #146

Good luck. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #153

Why wouldn't there be an investigation? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #170

He may have tried to beat it. Then caught a wheel and fell. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #154

Ok. brush Apr 2022 #155

My BIL used to do triathlons, was riding last month and started to lose consciousness, hit a car. TheBlackAdder Apr 2022 #202

A commute has what to do with a triathlon? brush Apr 2022 #204

He's a fit cyclist and he even drove into a parked car. There might have been medical factor. TheBlackAdder Apr 2022 #205

My ex husband was hit by a train on his bicycle. It was broad daylight. gldstwmn Apr 2022 #211

The local police don't have jurisdiction Effete Snob Apr 2022 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2022 #216

WHY do you need to know what happened? brooklynite Apr 2022 #2

Democracy depends on the truth. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #7

Is there ANY evidence that this wasn't an accident? nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #8

I don't know. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #11

Welp, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #13

That's what needs to be understood. Was it an accident or not? brush Apr 2022 #105

Did you bother to research this at all? brooklynite Apr 2022 #44

Where in any of that are the facts? The details? The circumstances? Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #53

How did it happen? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #57

You are attempting to say I wrote or implied that. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #60

And then you proceeded to post about CIA assassination techniques. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #65

To show you that pros have a book on it. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #67

From 60 years ago? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #72

I like the emoji. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #78

What facts????? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #80

There is a type... Effete Snob Apr 2022 #110

Actually we know the approximate time: 9:40 onenote Apr 2022 #83

Fact: he was hit by a train. Riding a bicycle. brooklynite Apr 2022 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Apr 2022 #61

LOL! Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #17

His last report... Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #35

And this is supposed to mean................What? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #39

It is his last article. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #42

He was more than a good writer, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #46

He died in a bicycle accident, being hit by a train. brooklynite Apr 2022 #48

how could he not hear the train? WhiteTara Apr 2022 #140

Maybe he did and thought he could get across. brooklynite Apr 2022 #144

"Thousands of people get hit by trains" Effete Snob Apr 2022 #150

You have evidence of that? Have you shared it with the police? brooklynite Apr 2022 #159

Evidence of what? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #162

I interpreted you coming from the other direction brooklynite Apr 2022 #164

Would you mind answering then? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #166

As a professional, I'd say none... brooklynite Apr 2022 #168

So, what you are saying... Effete Snob Apr 2022 #169

I do. WhiteTara Apr 2022 #167

It might change how a person rides a bike treestar Apr 2022 #187

That would be a reasonable response, but not the one I got... brooklynite Apr 2022 #190

I don't understand your thread, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #3

Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #9

Yeeeaaahhh, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #12

please take this to Creative Speculation, it is wandering into CT territory Celerity Apr 2022 #14

Really? Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #16

hired assassins? really? Celerity Apr 2022 #23

Yeah, that's definitely wandering into CT land. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #25

No, that's from CIA's "A Study of Assassination." Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #29

You're attempting to suggest that Eric's death was something other than an accident MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #31

It is pure speculation to post about assassination, and disingenuous to say "I'm not speculating!" Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #43

It specifically named Boehlert? iemanja Apr 2022 #182

Now you're putting words in my OP. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #26

you just made a post about professional assassins, I put nothing on your mouth Celerity Apr 2022 #28

You want to shut down discussion of Boehlert's death. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #30

Nobody is attempting to shut down discussions on Boehlert's death, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #33

Lol, show me where I doing that. I am calling out speculation by you wherein you are injecting Celerity Apr 2022 #36

No. We are trying to get you back on an even keel where you started in your OP. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #37

Actually, that post was a reply to the post blm Apr 2022 #62

the post they replied did not say 'accidents are just accidents'. so that is non starter Celerity Apr 2022 #70

Earlier in that exchange. blm Apr 2022 #79

again you are making errors in the construction of your argument Celerity Apr 2022 #87

I am reading the thread as it appears. blm Apr 2022 #97

Revisionist framing of the events that transpired, and that I have already documented in Celerity Apr 2022 #113

As I said, in future I'll be more mindful of blm Apr 2022 #130

Many posters will take issue with being implied to have done, or asked about things they did not do. Celerity Apr 2022 #148

False accusation. You wrote "Professional assassins ..." & Celerity wrote "hired assassins? really?" Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #45

Maybe they were professionals, but assassinating in their spare time Effete Snob Apr 2022 #197

Same ones that got Michael Hastings, I'd bet Effete Snob Apr 2022 #175

I am not an expert on that, I was 16, in London still, and buried in uni. I recall it vaguely. Celerity Apr 2022 #177

He had a lot of fans here Effete Snob Apr 2022 #179

I refer you to your Original Post where you admit you don't have facts. So post 9 is speculation Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #32

Right, in answer to a reply. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #38

The question asked if you are suggesting X, you then post about X, and then get offended Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #50

Who's not on an even keel? Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #58

You Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #59

more non sequiturs Celerity Apr 2022 #96

FFS, self delete! Nt USALiberal Apr 2022 #41

Like a tag team. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #47

Instead of considering that so many people believe you aren't thinking logically, you get defensive Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #55

Well, duh Effete Snob Apr 2022 #117

LOL. Tucker Carlson says he is "just asking questions". :) . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #123

No one is tag teaming, multiple posters are simply taking issue with you positings. Celerity Apr 2022 #99

It's a plot! Effete Snob Apr 2022 #116

So the professional assassins furtively got someone hired as an engineer by New Jersey Transit... brooklynite Apr 2022 #52

That's why I ask. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #74

You know what else sounds far-fetched? brooklynite Apr 2022 #81

As you probably know Effete Snob Apr 2022 #103

He was an important liberal journalist. We should at least ask some questions. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #4

Thank you. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #15

Has his family said ANYTHING about this not being a tragic accident? nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #20

Nope Effete Snob Apr 2022 #118

LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #173

We know Putin is capable of anything. Naive to think otherwise. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #21

Absolutely capable of anything. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #66

It should be up to his family what details are shared. Boomerproud Apr 2022 #6

Were it suicide, perhaps. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #19

No we aren't entitled to a report. His family is. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #68

Not real sure about that CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #73

Sure, the public has a right to know safety issues. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #89

That is an excellent point. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #93

And the NTSB will investigate and report Effete Snob Apr 2022 #104

Exactly! And when the report is completed they will release it Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #160

I'm not the person to ask that. CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #174

Don't think so treestar Apr 2022 #189

Have to admit snowybirdie Apr 2022 #10

Thank you. It'll be a week tomorrow. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #24

I bet Putin did it! BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #156

But, but...why was he walking on a highway before 7 in the morning? BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #178

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #92

+1, ... and a good portion of that "power" was the M$M uponit7771 Apr 2022 #120

✔️ blm Apr 2022 #133

✔️ blm Apr 2022 #132

. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #22

Thank You!!!! nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #27

Please post when it's available. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #40

Two thoughts PJMcK Apr 2022 #34

The shock reminded me of Gary Webb's death. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #51

The first was not a kill shot; it lodged in his cheek. shrike3 Apr 2022 #180

It's ridiculously easy to misjudge how far Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #76

When I read that he was out at ten o'clock, I thought, "Yikes." shrike3 Apr 2022 #181

He belongs to the Montclair social club which is near the accident RAB910 Apr 2022 #210

You do know the Federal Railroad Administration has jurisdiction Historic NY Apr 2022 #49

No, I had not read that. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #54

My guess is the impact with tons of metal going at a certain speed Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #63

As a transportation professional, allow me to offer some perspective. brooklynite Apr 2022 #64

Two things Effete Snob Apr 2022 #106

Maybe wearing head phone or portable iPhone ear pieces listening to podcast? FloridaBlues Apr 2022 #69

Montclair is a great, liberal, and diverse town FelineOverlord Apr 2022 #71

Maybe his family doesn't want details released Sympthsical Apr 2022 #75

Its being investigated. And investigations take time onenote Apr 2022 #95

Back in my cycling days kcr Apr 2022 #77

Bingo Effete Snob Apr 2022 #107

If no one saw him fall kcr Apr 2022 #157

That will be clear from the evidence Effete Snob Apr 2022 #165

It's disappointing to see fellow members twist your actual *question* into a CT theory. msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #82

The OP posted about CIA assassins in thread Sympthsical Apr 2022 #88

I didn't read it that way, I read a question being asked, seeking an answer. msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #193

I was not the OP part, it was when they went all CT (professional assassins, etc) in the replies: Celerity Apr 2022 #214

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Apr 2022 #122

I see UnderThisLaw Apr 2022 #85

Well, it's a question anyway. Iggo Apr 2022 #90

As yours UnderThisLaw Apr 2022 #91

I'm curious about this myself Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #94

+1, also was there anyone operating the train!? The question is valid uponit7771 Apr 2022 #126

From the outset it was reported there were crew on board the train. onenote Apr 2022 #149

But the blogosphere demands immediate results! brooklynite Apr 2022 #176

I doubt the train could have avoided him. Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #171

. Effete Snob Apr 2022 #199

"They were calling it a bicycle accident and then we learned he was hit by a train" onenote Apr 2022 #137

Hey I said I was curious Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #163

Please watch this video Effete Snob Apr 2022 #186

Is that the intersection in Watchung where Boehlert crashed? n/t Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #194

No, it is not Effete Snob Apr 2022 #195

So what is your hypothesis? Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #196

My hypothesis Effete Snob Apr 2022 #198

Still asking what your hypothesis is, cuz what you said is not a hypothesis for Boehlert Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #200

Well you've have to wait for the report Effete Snob Apr 2022 #201

Well then I'll wait for the report, and Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #203

Here's some more information for you Effete Snob Apr 2022 #212

Now that is a theory by gosh Saoirse9 Apr 2022 #213

Of course. Nothing wrong with treestar Apr 2022 #188

Because it was a train, there will be an NTSB report Effete Snob Apr 2022 #98

Not necessarily. The Federal Railroad Administration typically investigates onenote Apr 2022 #143

49 CFR § 831.40 - Authority of NTSB in railroad, pipeline, and hazardous materials investigations. Effete Snob Apr 2022 #147

This is why Alex Jones is being sued by Sandy Hook families Effete Snob Apr 2022 #112

umm - not like Alex Jones at all. Experienced cyclist killed by train certainly raises questions. AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2022 #141

Your simple question sure has generated a lot of kerfuffle - hmm. Makes me even more curious. AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2022 #114

By reply #9, the thread starter had replied with "CIA assassinations made to look like accidents" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2022 #161

+100000000 Celerity Apr 2022 #215

He thought he could beat the train. alphafemale Apr 2022 #121

That's unusual and investigation is in order. I can't find anything in regards to NTSB investigating uponit7771 Apr 2022 #125

The NTSB takes a long time Effete Snob Apr 2022 #127

At minimum ntsb publishes there's an investigation, I've not seen anything on it uponit7771 Apr 2022 #135

NTSB doesn't generally investigate bicycle train incidents onenote Apr 2022 #145

Nope Effete Snob Apr 2022 #152

This. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #158

Boy, have we gotten paranoid. It's terrible when you leftyladyfrommo Apr 2022 #136

A reminder of the physics of a commuter train brooklynite Apr 2022 #172

And bikes... Effete Snob Apr 2022 #185

I until recently lived near near two commuter rail stops out near Portland Oregon. CentralMass Apr 2022 #184

We often find that the most simple of explanations is what happened during these tragedies. SmallFry Apr 2022 #192

he played chicken with a train Skittles Apr 2022 #206

Has more information been released? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #207

He is a member of the Montclair social club RAB910 Apr 2022 #208