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MineralMan

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Fri Mar 11, 2022, 03:19 PM Mar 2022

My Experience with Military Intelligence Was Over 50 Years Ago, [View all]

Last edited Fri Mar 11, 2022, 07:34 PM - Edit history (1)

so I have no information on the current state of things at all.

However, what I do know is that the principle of "need to know" is still at the heart of military intelligence.

I do not have a "need to know" the details of what the USA or NATO is doing or planning to do to help Ukraine. None of those reading this post have that "need to know," either.

The Russians would "like to know," but they aren't going to get that information from public sources here in the USA.

We'd all "like to know," but if we know, everyone would know.

For a few years, I worked with Top Secret information every day. I even generated some of it, and analyzed a lot more of it. In most cases, I was part of a very, very small number of people who ever saw that information. Just a few had that "need to know."

Some of what I did is no longer classified. Some of it still is. Oddly enough, I have no idea which is which, so I treat it all as if it were still on a "need to know" basis.

So, I understand completely why we're all in the dark about the details of our actions, plans, and strategic analysis of what exactly is going on in Ukraine and an even broader area. I also understand that there are teams of people whose jobs it is to analyze information and evaluate strategies that might be in play. I have no idea what they're all doing and talking about.

Neither does anyone else who is outside of those teams.

That's how it must be. There is no alternative.

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Why do you always talk such uncommon sense, Mineral Man? Hekate Mar 2022 #1
I can do no other. MineralMan Mar 2022 #2
Heh. I actually had a splendid history professor in my first year of college. He made it live. Hekate Mar 2022 #4
Yeah, I figured you know that one. MineralMan Mar 2022 #6
100% agreed relayerbob Mar 2022 #3
I just hope they have a way to get supplies to those surrounded cities everyonematters Mar 2022 #5
Yes, I hope so, too. MineralMan Mar 2022 #8
Agreed. But selective declassification of what we know about Russia has helped us keep Walleye Mar 2022 #7
Oh, there is sharing among allies, for sure. MineralMan Mar 2022 #10
Yes. I am slightly encouraged by the way they are working together, seemingly Walleye Mar 2022 #11
I'm actually happy that I'm confused about what we are / are not doing. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #9
Mine ended 55 years ago and like you it was before the end of the Soviet Union. marie999 Mar 2022 #12
I've never needed anything but my DD-214. MineralMan Mar 2022 #14
I have been able to tell them about one document I translated. marie999 Mar 2022 #15
LOL! I don't have one like that. MineralMan Mar 2022 #16
Interesting stuff. In one parallel Earth I might have been a Russian linguist... electric_blue68 Mar 2022 #37
I know the old joke is that military intelligence is an oxymoron but that really is just a joke. sdfernando Mar 2022 #13
Yeah, we took it all pretty seriously. MineralMan Mar 2022 #17
Dad was career army but not intelligence per se... sdfernando Mar 2022 #28
In my day nitpicker Mar 2022 #18
Keep the circle small alfredo Mar 2022 #19
Exactly! MineralMan Mar 2022 #26
USASA 65-69 alfredo Mar 2022 #41
Same years USAFSS. MineralMan Mar 2022 #42
Ever pass through Asmara alfredo Mar 2022 #43
Nope. MineralMan Mar 2022 #44
Lovely city. Google it. alfredo Mar 2022 #45
I never went in that direction from Samsun. Looks like it's located MineralMan Mar 2022 #46
Sinop would have been my base if sent to Turkey. alfredo Mar 2022 #47
Yup. That's where the Army was. MineralMan Mar 2022 #48
I have a name that ends in ian, an indicator of Armenian origin. alfredo Mar 2022 #50
That's a very touchy issue in Turkey and in the Armenian community. MineralMan Mar 2022 #51
That was why I was happy to get Kagnew Station. Stayed there for three years. alfredo Mar 2022 #52
Exactly! greblach Mar 2022 #20
Excellent thread, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #21
Thanks. MineralMan Mar 2022 #27
Some of the projects I worked on produced reports that I couldn't see after submittal. erronis Mar 2022 #22
Yeah, me too. MineralMan Mar 2022 #30
+1 ChazII Mar 2022 #49
Anything we citizens can know Putin could know. BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #23
Yes. Of course, sometimes things that appear to be true MineralMan Mar 2022 #31
Thanks for a bit of sanity orwell Mar 2022 #24
I'll second that motion... bluboid Mar 2022 #25
I try to increase the sanity all the time. MineralMan Mar 2022 #32
Great thread! Silver Gaia Mar 2022 #29
Thanks so much! MineralMan Mar 2022 #33
Exactly. niyad Mar 2022 #34
I had an intelligence classification 50+ years ago. hay rick Mar 2022 #35
Need to know or not, our intelligence apparatus has been caught flat footed more than once Warpy Mar 2022 #36
Oh, the intelligence agencies were not surprised by the collapse MineralMan Mar 2022 #53
True, through interpreters in both Congress and the White House Warpy Mar 2022 #55
We talk about what we do know and our opinions regarding what is we know. boston bean Mar 2022 #38
OK... MineralMan Mar 2022 #39
Thank you. It has served me well my entire life. boston bean Mar 2022 #40
Wait... wasn't it the fact that W/his peeps ignored certain warning memos?... electric_blue68 Mar 2022 #56
Read the 911 report. boston bean Mar 2022 #57
As a veteran of MI, I understand the visceral reaction when alfredo Mar 2022 #54
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