Scalia suggests church/state separation equals Nazi Germany

[really annoyed]

http://blog.au.org/2004/12/did_scalia_skip.html

Not satisfied merely misinterpreting the legacy of the founders, Scalia then cryptically asked "Did it turn out that by reason of the separation of church and state, the Jews were safer in Europe than they were in the United States?" He answered himself, saying, "I don't think so."

[mark11727]

1. Answering one's own dumbass questions. Rummy does that, too.

[Knurled99]

2. Well considering that we turned Jews seeking asylum

away at our borders, I guess the Jews weren't really safe anywhere.

[NYC]

3. Just the opposite.

Someone at DU posted a Hitler speech about religion recently.

[justa]

11. This was it, I copied it when I saw it

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-- in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past years."
Adolph Hitler

[NYC]

12. Thank you.

Keep posting it when they opportunity arises. I think it is significant.

[hootinholler]

23. Significant?

LOL, Thank you for giving me the hook for a flyer I'm working on.

Who said this? I'll leave the ID on the quote for much lower on the page.

-Hoot

[HuckleB]

4. Is there any constitutional process to impeach this psychotic screwball?

[TaleWgnDg]

22. Yes, U.S. Supreme Court justices . . .

Yes, U.S. Supreme Court justices may not be removed except upon impeachment. And, generally speaking, a federal judge cannot be removed merely because his or her legal opinions are in opposition to another's legal views.

U.S. Supreme Court justices "shall hold their Offices during good behavior." (U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 1, in pertinent part).

"(A)ll civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." (U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 4, in pertinent part).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/demopedia/index.php/Constitution# (do not rely upon or refer to the titles some DUer has inserted into the demopedia U.S. constitution, b/c the U.S. constitution has no titles, and the demopedia titles are misleading, incorrect, and should be removed.)

edited to add: Actually, Chief Justice Wm. H. Rehnquist has written an excellent book about impeachments, "Grand Inquests: The Historic Impeachments of Justice Samuel Chase and President Andrew Johnson." Here's a blurb about it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/books091898.htm . . . and . . . http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=UH0soJcAU6&isbn=0688051421&itm=7

[xray s]

5. You could just as well ask...

Did it turn out by reason of a twisted version of religious fundamentalism, that blacks were safer in the US during slavery and the era of the KKK than they would have been in their native Africa? I don't think so.

[4morewars]

6. So , for the last 200+ years....

we were equal to nazi germany ? :wtf:

This fuckin guy has got to go !

[intheflow]

7. "Kinder, Kirche, Kuche"

"Children, Kitchen, Church" Ask the German women if the Nazi's separated church and state. :eyes:

[Must_B_Free]

8. "Gott mit uns"

[Kellanved]

15. neither of the two slogans is Nazi in origin

The Nazis used Christianity in their Propaganda and chained the Churches closer to the state; yet they were working on getting rid of the churches altogether.

[WMliberal]

9. shows how little scalia knows about 1930's germany...

The Nazis LOVED christianity. Used it heavily in their propaganda and in the promised version of a German utopia...
There I go again; silly to believe people in power would KNOW something of the historical snippets they cherrypick.

[delhurgo]

10. When a Supreme Court justice starts playing politics in the vein of

Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, etc.. essentially calling The ACLU, people who believe in the Sep of Church/State, his own colleagues..."nazis" -then we have really sunk to a new low. Cause that's all this is, politics - and justices should be way above that.

This is the kind of thing you see on kook right-wing forums on the internet, or where pimply-faced teens try to bait an opponent and start a flame-war by comparing him to Hitler; there's even a saying that the first person to use Hitler/Nazis loses the argument. So we have a justice on the supreme court, the leading conservative voice, someone being considered for chief justice... who's thinking is on the level of an internet troll. Pathetic.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. Scalia's move to Christian theocracry will create another Holocaust.

Scalia forgets that within the realms of Christianity, there is a vast amount of differences. Among those Christians are a good size of people who hate Jews. Scalia is incredibly naive not to recognize the potential for disaster once he gives this country to the Christian right.

[davidinalameda]

14. he's not naive

he and his ilk only recognize conservative Christianity as the only true Christianity

they're the ones who want the state to be a tool of the churches

[TaleWgnDg]

20. Uuummmmm, I hate to burst your bubble but Scalia IS the religous right.

As in Roman Catholic religious rightwing.

[usregimechange]

16. I don't think so image:

[TaleWgnDg]

21. usregimechange, or anyone . . .

Can you name the cardinals or bishops or monsignors in that Hitler-salute photograph? And who are the others in the first row, their names too?

Somebody should know this, correct? If so, fess up and his the reply button, please.



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[dems4israel]

17. SCALIA IS A NUTBALL

Scalia is one of the most dangerous political figures in America
and he only gets more meshugana with age.

[Jackie97]

18. Oh my lord...

First of all, the U.S. has more Jews in it than all of Israel. One good thing I can say about the United States is that it's almost always been a wonderful place for Jews to live (except for in some areas in the south). Jews escapted to the U.S. during the 1800s from Europe.

I have read of a case where the Jews were being harassed, beaten up, and so forth. It was in school, because they would not participate in Christian activities in school and wanted them to stop for the sake of not isolating them.

http://archive.aclu.org/news/n081497b.html

Separation of church and state would protect this Jewish family better if it was actually enforced.

Separation of church and state in the U.S. protects people from being persecuted in the name of religion, as many Nazis did (they claimed to be Christian, even though they had a problem with certain Christians like the Pope in the end).

Separation of church and state protects everybody from this type of tyranny including (gasp) Christians. Imagine that. It protects Christians because all Christians don't agree with each other about how to do Christianity. If we had a Christian theocracy, I guarantee you that several Christians would be persecuted and killed simply because they weren't the brand of Christianity that the leaders were. How do I know this? I know history. That's how. Read your history. Catholics killed Protestants. Protestants killed Catholics. Puritans escaped England because they were persecuted (persecution which came after they tried to force their reilgious views on England from what I understand), just to find their own land and execute people who were not like them.

Separation of church and state is one of the very things that keeps us from turning into a Nazi like country.

EDIT: I just want to add that I've heard some conservatives get really upset that Bush is often compared to Hitler. What about the people on their side who act like we're like Hitler every day (such as Scalia)?

[TaleWgnDg]

19. Ah-ha! Another reason why I refer to Antonin Scalia as . . .

Ah-ha! Another reason why I refer to Associate Justice Antonin Scalia as Pope Scalia as he sits on the United States Supreme Court bench. His echo is called Cardinal (Clarence) Thomas. Both of whom are Roman Catholic extreme rightwing religious zealots.

http://www.dsl.psu.edu/library/lrr/guides/supct/scalia.html

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"It's because of your religion that
you don't do things that are skewed
-- because it's not right. You took
an oath to be impartial. That's when
you ought to leave the court -- when
you can't look at yourself and say,
'I was impartial.' When I can't, I'll
leave." - U.S.Sup.Ct. Associate Justice
Clarence Thomas, giving his theocratic
standard for judges during a Q&A w/ law
school students at University of Kansas,
October 28, 2004, John Hanna, AP Writer,
Lawrence, Kansas (Justice Thomas is a
Roman Catholic who attended and completed
Roman Catholic primary and secondary
schools and colleges).
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