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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:20 PM
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A Christian Call to Arms?
God will no longer allow us to live off the freedom that others sacrificed everything to provide for us. It is we who chose to retreat into our pews when our Lord never left off leading the battle in the streets



August 21, 2003
America: Founded on a Covenant with God
Some people may be under the impression that America was founded for the purpose of freedom and liberty, but perhaps they are mistaken. Quite a few Christians sincerely believe that America was founded on a covenant with God and for no other purpose but to promote Christianity to the poor, godless, heathen people of the world. America's laws are based upon God's laws and from this stems every right and proper action that the American government should take.
At least, that's what Stephen Masburn at MTTU:

Egypt was a pagan nation that had never entered into covenant with Almighty God. America on the other hand is a nation that was created through a covenant with God in order to advance the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. From our Pilgrim Forefathers to the Founding Fathers of the War for Independence to our Constitutional Republic, the Law of God has always been our foundation upon which all law stems from. Through many dark times in our nation’s history our one guiding Light has been the Lord God and His Law.

It is time for the true Christians to shine forth the glorious light of Christ. We have waited too long and the price for standing for Jesus is always high but now you and I will each decide whether to pay it or suffer the consequences. God will no longer allow us to live off the freedom that others sacrificed everything to provide for us. It is we who chose to retreat into our pews when our Lord never left off leading the battle in the streets. ... Man however has decided to put its trust in federal courts rather than in God and the righteous decrees in His Law. A battle has been brewing.
On Thursday Judge Roy Moore held a press conference to declare his decision to obey his oath to God to uphold the Alabama State Constitution by invoking the favor of Almighty God despite a federal judge’s edict ordering him to cease and bow to him. A few hours later, America experienced the worst power outage in history.

Well, folks, there you have it - if you think that America has any business being a secular nation, think again. You are obligated to submit to God's law (as described and interpreted by people like Stephen Masburn, of course, not that he would admit to engaging in anything so crass as "interpretation"). If you don't and if you have any inclinations towards something like religious liberty, please submit your name and address to an organization like MTTU so that a representative can come and visit once the theocratic revolution occurs.


http://atheism.about.com/b/a/019202.htm
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:28 PM
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1. Funny how they say they want to advance the Gospel
of the Lord Jesus Christ, but they can't quite seem to remember what He said in John 13:34. "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."




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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:31 PM
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2. Oh sure, they remember that verse
Edited on Thu May-05-05 09:41 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
But of course they know that it didn't include all those homos, abortionist, pot smokers, environmental wackos, liberals, etc, etc. and other un-patriotic persons living in America. Just true Christians.

You just have to read it with its proper meaning.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:32 PM
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3. But
Jesus was just a free ride into Heaven just by believing in him. He said those things to prove he was god. We have to go by the OT only. Bible says so.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:33 PM
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4. Here's an answer for him
"By culture and convention, Christians in America enjoy privileges and power that their coreligionists in other countries could never dream of. When or where in history was it ever easier to profess Christianity in whatever form you might choose?

And yet scarcely a day goes by, regardless of whether or not it is "Justice Sunday," in which some group of American Christians does not claim that they are facing "persecution."

They dare to use that word.

This is delusional, pathological. These people are insane. They are my brothers and sisters in Christ -- and the brothers and sisters of those Christians facing actual persecution in the world's forgotten corners -- but they are insane.

When protected, privileged and pampered American Christians claim to be facing persecution they spit on the wounds of their brothers and sisters elsewhere in the world and in history who have known firsthand what religious persecution really is. They mock not only their fellow Christians in this great cloud of witnesses, but also those of other faiths who have suffered or are, now, today, suffering genuine persecution.

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2005/05/persecution.html

Much better rant than I could have written, with good comments posted at the end.

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:42 PM
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5. Christians historically have always had a persecution complex
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Cool Hand Luke Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:43 PM
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6. Save us from the Godly
Edited on Thu May-05-05 09:44 PM by Cool Hand Luke
I really hope these individuals who have their own parochial view of God do not obtain political ascendancy. I fear for people like the Quakers who in the past have suffered from their hands for lack of orthodoxy.

The entire nation could be turned into a rabble rousing mess of nut jobs.

Just reflect on the number of sects today that claim special knowledge of God's will as found in the bible. Now imagine how chaotic it would be with them all in committee trying to come up with the right way to do something. I can see the humor in that. But they would agree on many points. Abortion, 10 commandments, kissing the behind of authority figures because they are authority figures. Denying birth control to women.

It's a pretty sad picture actually. Pray to God it doesn't come true.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:01 PM
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7. Theocraptic crap! Retreat to the P U 's (pews) where you worthless
and overly politicized stench belong..
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