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[usregimechange]

http://our-conscience.blogspot.com/

[northamericancitizen]

1. on a lighter note with no disrespect... from a french-canadian

Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18: 22 clearly states it to be an abomination. . . End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25: 44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev. 1: 9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35: 2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11: 10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there degrees of abomination?

7. Lev. 21: 20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11: 6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19: 19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24: 10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20: 14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, as well, you have a direct line to God so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Mel"

[laheina]

2. This is the funniest thing ever!

Tee-hee! ROTFLMAO

[tavalon]

3. This is a recycle of a letter supposedly sent to Dr. Laura

An oldie but a goodie. I like the way there are always a few new ones each time it circulates.

[cjmr]

4. Some of these were used in an episode of the West Wing...

when President Bartlet met a character who was quite obviously supposed to be Dr. Laura.

Was good then, is still good now.

[Coltrane]

5. Religion and the Founders

There's a nice article on http://www.crooksandliars.com/
The Founding Fathers were not devout by the standards of many of today's fundamentalist Protestants. To carefully examine writings by the principal framers (Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Washington and Madison) is to note the striking degree to which they all shared attitudes toward religion that would disqualify them as "Christians" in the eyes of the religious right, even though they described themselves as such. All these men emphasized the supreme importance of individual reason and conscience--not ecclesiastical authority and dogma--in shaping personal faith. To be sure, they recognized religion's valuable social role, but the assertion heard so often these days, that America was founded as a 'Christian nation', simply is not true.... read the whole article because it contains facts debunking a myth about our country's principles.

[egodust]

11. US Founders were spiritual, NOT religious

the framers of our constitution were all masons (which secret society--unlike the popular mutation we know of as masonry today--was *spiritual* and NOT religious!) who understood the vital concept of freedom of religion, which can only be guaranteed to the people if the separation of church and state is upheld!! and the further implications and ramifications of this are far reaching, to say the least. i.e. freedom of speech, artistic expression, amorous expression, etc...

that the neoconservatives claim they want less govt, translates into the reality of less govt as applied to what *corporations* are allowed to do, such as polluting the environment, oppressing the working class, etc. they want MORE govt as applied to WE THE PEOPLE and what we're *morally* allowed to do! the more of a foothold a religion has on a society, the greater the tendency to war over who's interpretation of a given religious movement will prevail. vide: ireland, and the arab-muslim world. both societies are under the banner of ONE religion, and each are warring over the applied degrees of strictness of interpretation!

all these issues boil down to the milieu of a spiritual bankruptcy. and to grasp where this is at, one needs to be capable of realizing that not only can theists and agnostics be spiritual, but even an atheist can be spiritual! in fact, it's more likely the latter is than the former two! the belief in a god or not has nothing at all to do with spirituality! rather, the innate tendency to embrace one's connection to the existential MYSTERY that in fact *transcends* the categorical mind and its adherence to relativistic ideas and judgments, is the living definition of what is spiritual. buddha, jesus, krishna, shankaracharya, mohammed, lao tzu, and many other spiritual philosophers alluded to this *natural* state of the mind wired not to delimiting ideas, but to the ineffable and primal Heart. e.g. what jesus meant when he said, "unless ye have the mind of a child, ye cannot enter the kingdom of heaven."

[nascarblue]

14. Genious! I love it...NT

[GOPBasher]

15. I've seen this plenty of times and laugh my ass off every time.

We should send that to as many people as possible.

[vet_against_Bush]

6. Gezz, did anyone check out his weblog? Interesting discussion though.nt

[usregimechange]

7. Thanks I was begining to wonder if anyone noticed the topic of...

the thread. :-(

[Kablooie]

8. Hey, that's nothing. Try THIS!

http://www.natreformassn.org/purpose.html

Whoopee!

[vet_against_Bush]

9. Eh, what? nt

[liberal43110]

16. Scary

That is truly frightening. Seriously.

[Synnical]

10. Okay Blog

But AAChat (American Atheists Chat - members only) is way better. $35 a year.

http://www.atheists.org/

I'm a member, not a director.

[usregimechange]

12. More updates... nt

[vet_against_Bush]

13. Wow! Check out the news on the blog today! link in opening thread...nt