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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:52 AM
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NEW CPR guidelines. Hard and fast. 100 times per minute. To the beat of Stayin Alive
by the BeeGees.

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If someone has collapsed and is not breathing – a sign their heart has stopped – bystanders should call 911 and then begin compressions immediately. No need to “look, listen, feel” first, or to count breaths. If a portable defibrillator is available it should be used to shock the heart but defibrillators do not take the place of compressions.

... Most cardiac arrests happen at home.

People are also unduly concerned they will do harm,” Dr. Travers said. “You can’t hurt someone with CPR. The benefits far outweigh the risks,” he said.

Dr. Travers said the hope is that simplified CPR guidelines will encourage more citizens to act and swiftly. “With cardiac arrest, it’s a race against time. You have 6-10 minutes to restart the heart and for each minute lost there is a 10 per cent reduction in survival,” he said.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/compress-first-ask-questions-later-new-cpr-guidelines-say/article1761003/
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:56 AM
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1. Thanks. Very critical info to know.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:00 AM
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2. I've recently learned this.
They've found that giving breaths really doesn't help that much, and that the compressions work much better without the breathing.

This should help folks without any training to be less afraid of catching something since they won't be exposed to whatever the person might be infected with.

No mouth to mouth, much less chance of catching something.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:59 AM
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3. You can
harm someone doing cpr. We had a lot of fractured ribs after cpr in the hospital but it is sure better than the alternative.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 02:50 AM
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4. It is EXHAUSTING for caregivers
The last code I worked wore us all out...and you have to trade out more often.
However, the new guidelines (which I have actually certified under for the last 4 years), are much more effective...however, you can...and often do...hurt someone.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:43 AM
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5. Will a taser work as a portable defibrillator?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:56 AM
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6. OK, I have a pacemaker - what is the problem -if any- with CPR
for us electrified people?

It is a pacer ONLY, not a defib...


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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:51 PM
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11. None.
The function of the pacemaker is to regulate the electrical activity of the heart.
It is usually placed out of the way of where the compressions are administered.
However...if someone with a pacemaker has successful CPR, then the device would need to be checked out thoroughly afterward.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 05:54 AM
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7. Good to know - but everybody should get trained
Everybody, but remember it will take years for this advice to get down to some trainers.

Thanks for posting.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:59 PM
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12. Not in a clinical setting.
Once American Heart issues it as the guideline, it is the guideline and ALL trainers have to teach it or they won't be certified.
The last time anyone could recertify by the old standards was over 2 years ago.
All healthcare professionals should by now have certified at least once under the new guidelines and all instructors should have certified at least twice under them.
Very few, if any, facilities accept American Red Cross certifications anymore and honestly--I am not sure if they even changed to the new standard.
With that being said...a lay person is probably not going to be able to keep up the pace correctly. It is VERY difficult but also VERY effective for the patient if done correctly.
HOWEVER...as I told my students when I was an instructor...ANYTHING is better than nothing.
Don't get too hung up on counting and keeping up that it prohibits you from saving a life.:)
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:53 AM
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8. Or, if you have a macabre sense of humor...
you can do it to the beat of "Another One Bites the Dust."
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:15 PM
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9. LOL, but I went to the movies so much the year that "Saturday Night Fever"
came out that no amount of brain bleach will remove that crotch shot of Travolta swinging a paint can to "Staying Alive". I can't even guess how many times I saw that trailer. Never did see the movie. :7
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:48 PM
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10. You can hurt someone doing CPR, but it is a better choice than just letting them die.
The benefits far outweigh the risks. Cracked ribs or death? Decisions decisions. "I'm afraid I might hurt them" vs "die".
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 05:30 PM
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13. Staying Alive...or whatever floats your boat here:
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