Let's pretend that CA will pass the legalize-pot measure this fall...

[Duer 157099]

Does it go into effect immediately?

If one were to consider the various ways to capitalize on this, what would some good ideas be? Head shops? Are those legal? I don't know what the current status is, but if pot becomes legal, then paraphenalia should also be legal, right?

What are the businesses that will benefit most from the legalization?

[Vincardog]

1. The FASCIST private prison will be hurt most. I suspect the money will be in supply

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. Prison, fascist, money, hurt, suspect, supply and private.

Interesting use of half your words.

[creeker]

30. The privatization of Prisions is THE BIGGEST PROBLEM

The Assholes who control private prisions lose money if ANYTHING is made a lessor offense--legalize weed and they lose money. Hell,they lose money if the law goes from persecution to rehabilitation.
Return prisions to state controlled only-- I can see the scumbbags in private control wanting to give hard time to a 10 yr. old who stole a loaf of bread to feed his siblings.
Hell with this-- Uncle pisses me off SO BAD---------'nuff said peace out

[lob1]

2. Brownie mix would do well. Hemp seed popcorn?

[Webster Green]

3. Head shops are legal now. You can get anything you need.

The folks who sell chicken manure should see an uptick in sales.

I hope it passes. I can't hardly wait.

I know a lot of growers who want it to fail though. Humboldt is actually worried about loss of revenues that greatly contribute to the local economy.
They just need to think big, and go with the flow. Humboldt County growers should market their high grade product like Sonoma and Napa do their great wines.

:hippie:

[Tempest]

5. The other side would get an immediate injunction

And prevent it from going into effect.

The issue would go to the SCOTUS who would rule that the federal government has the final say (the Constitution says federal law trumps state law) and the feds say pot is illegal.

[Webster Green]

7. What other side?

Fuck that! We vote it in. It's law.

The feds can take a fucking hike. They better start backing off on medicinal pot right now!

Mutherfuckers!

[Tempest]

8. It's easy to get worked up about it

But thinking that just because you vote it in makes it legal or constitutional is something the right wing specializes in. And that's why they keep getting beat down in court.

It will take time but medicinal pot (which isn't what the legalization bill is about) will eventually be recognized by the feds and farther down the road there will come complete decriminalization of pot.

[Webster Green]

10. Again, FUCK THAT!

If we vote it in, then it's legal in the state. The voters who were in the minority have nothing to discuss. They'll just have to get over it.

I know what the initiative is about. I'm very familiar with medicinal, recreational and hemp activism. I worked on Prop 215 which legalized medicinal cannabis and an initiative that passed in Marin County a year before that. We've had medicinal pot in Marin since before 215.

BTW, I got "worked up" about it in 1966 when I helped form a chapter of "Lemar", which was perhaps the original pro-legalization effort. Been worked up ever since. :hippie:

[Tempest]

13. So you believe Proposition 8 is legal?

It was voted in, as you know.

[Webster Green]

15. As of now it is legal.

I voted against it, of course. it's fucking hideous!

[Tempest]

16. I don't see it as legal

I see it as just in effect.

I believe Walker will also see it as illegal.

[Webster Green]

17. I think it is unconstitutional, and I hope they rule that it is.

I don't believe the majority gets to discriminate against a minority group of people.

The pot thing is very different to me. We're not discriminating against anyone by making cannabis legal.

[Oregone]

18. "We're not discriminating against anyone by making cannabis legal."

No, but you are pretending state powers in drug scheduling supersede federal

Right or wrong, it boils down to an issue that the courts can decide on a very different criteria than you would

[Webster Green]

19. I believe the state law supercedes the feds. I'm not pretending anything.

They have no right to tell us we can't grow and use this herb.

I will continue to fight them based on that belief.

Fuck the DEA! They can kiss my hippie ass!

[Oregone]

20. "They have no right to tell us..."

...banning gay marriage is illegal

[Webster Green]

21. I totally agree with you on prop 8.

I said that before.

The two issues are very different. (IMO)

You aren't going to change my mind. The feds have no say in this issue.

If anything, the feds have a duty to change the "drug" classification of cannabis in light of current existing knowledge, not 1937 propaganda.

And they need to back the fuck off of California cannabis! They may as well just give up because we have already won. Pot is fucking everywhere.

We have warehouse sized dispensaries where you can purchase anything and everything. Big bags of the finest stickiest bud in the world.
You can walk in to buy yourself a bunch of clones, and pick from a couple dozen killer varieties.

Sure, the DEA pigs play whack-a-mole and take one down, but there's a dozen new ones to replace every one they illegally raid.

Give it up DEA pigs! You can never win here.

[droidamus2]

27. I wonder

Could an argument be made that the feds putting pot on Schedule 1 is unreasonable as there are now accepted medicinal uses for marijuana and use that as a wedge of some kind to at least get it rescheduled at the federal level which could open it up to be legalized and unable to be challenged. Just because an argument is made that the federal law trumps the state law (not always a given) can the federal courts decide that the feds, in this case the DEA, are not operating in good faith and force them to change? Just asking. The fact is from a federal point of view medicinal marijuana dispensaries are illegal but that doesn't stop them in California.

[Oregone]

9. Pharma, Tobacco, Alchohol, 49 other states, drug cartels, mormons, pulp mill/textiles, etc

[Webster Green]

11. Oh well, fuck 'em.

Losers!

[Oregone]

12. Well, yeah, sure, that works until its reversed

Which gets you no where. You and everyone else.


I don't know. Im a tad pessimistic IF it passes, due to everyone that will be against it (and they own the federal politicians). Then again, it may not pass at all for some mind-blowing reason.

[Webster Green]

14. The cops are for it.

It's time. I'm optimistic.

[Bert]

26. f*** em

What do you think were going to do? Oh no, the feds have stepped in. We all better get back in line now and be good boys. Fuck no! I have not yet begun to fight. I never expected there to be this much progress in my lifetime both in america and the world at large. You think I am going to lay down and play dead now?

[Ezlivin]

6. I would open a vast distribution network for this:

[RedCappedBandit]

22. I'd open some sort of cafe where peeps could smoke.

:smoke:

[Alison Matusak]

23. What will the neighboring states do?

Notably crazy Arizona?

[NikRik]

31. Watch all the $ leaving their state !

A steady stream of revenue leaving their state heading to CA. where pot will be sold with a high sales tax applied ! Once other states see the kind of $ they can recieve from taxation of pot they will qickly fall in line.After all cash is king in Washington DC and just about every where else !
IMHO NikRik

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[SHRED]

24. Federal Law

That's what would happen.

They are "tolerating" medical marijuana now but outright legalization? yeah...right.


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[TxRider]

28. Obama would fold

He would mark down pot to a lower "over the counter" schedule with the stroke of a pen.

[Dancnkc]

25. munchies

The minute they pass it, I'm buying stock in chocolate...

[Furiousliberal]

29. Thumbs up!

Thumbs up for California and Pot!