After 40 years Griswold is in trouble

[serryjw]

On June 7,2005 we celebrated the 40th anniversary of Griswold which laid the ground work for 'privacy' and eventually Roe. The mention of Pharmacists deny access to B/C pills on religious grounds in our new battleground.
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2326

I would like to hear ONLY from DU woman under 40 (reproductive years) of their current beliefs

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. Um excuse me

I am WAY over 40 but still in my reproductive years.. a fact which terrifies me.

You might want to move it up to 55?

[serryjw]

2. I'm 55.......

....I can't nor do I want to make a baby. Very few woman WANT to make a baby past 40...UNLESS you are in Hollywood.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. Which is why some of us

still take birth control pills into the 50's, because menopause hasn't quite wiped out the ability of those lovely little eggs to pop out and turn your life upside down!

I am very late to the change, as are all my sisters.

[notadmblnd]

5. you are right, birth control after 40 is scary

My husband is the one who got "fixed" after we finished having children. Now that he has passed away and I'm single again, I find the thought of using some kind of BC scary. Both of my sisters also in their 40's seem to be in the middle of menopause, but me... oh no.. I can still set my watch to my cycle.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. My age notwithstanding and irrelevant, Griswold would be in more

trouble than you propose were the pharmacists denying the sale of birth control wholesale, that is, no rubbers, no diaphragms, no foam, etc. The fact that there are alternatives might weaken Griswold, but not necessarily overturn it.

[Crunchy Frog]

6. I'm a little past 40 and plan on having a baby in the near future.

By the way, did you ever read about that 54 year old woman who concieved and gave birth to healthy triplets (and no, it was not with the help of reproductive technology, it happened spontaneously)?

Women past 40 do use birth control, and even when they're not fertile, may use the Pill for various medical conditions. They will be affected by this denial of access as much as anyone else.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

11. If my pharmacist

denied me birth control pills I'd jump over the counter and throttle him.

[Aimah]

12. Pharmacist

I'd probably be pissed but I'd go down the street and give a different pharmacist my money. Then I'd start a smear campaign and tell others not to buy anything from him. Jenna and Barb are so wild I wonder what they keep in their medicine cabinet.

[waiting for hope]

13. Second one at 41

Had my first child at 37 and become pregnant with my second at 40 - delivered her 10 days after my 41st b-day. Just make sure that your ob/gyn is very attentive to women who are AMA. My ob/gyn for my daughter wasn't and is made for an extremely frustrating 9 months and the delivery should be shown to teenagers who think getting pregnant isn't a big deal....:scared:

[iamjoy]

7. Worse Than Just Pharmacists

The way Dubya is stacking the judiciary, not only will pharmacists have the right to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions, but state legislatures will have the right to pass laws banning all methods of birth control (no store in the state can sell condoms, etc)

[serryjw]

9. does anyone know if any national drug chains

have agreed with pharmacist revolt? The problem I see most are the dems in RED states. CO is pretty conservative but not in the dark ages, they would never stand for this. UNLESS the Post office or UPS wants to get involved; we can buy all this through the internet

My contention is that we are going to have 2 countries. The RED/BLUE states. The thugs REALLY LIKE the divisive issues and will not overturn ROE but water it down and send it back the States.

Some interesting facts on ROE...Might want to look at the numbers for Texas

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss5212.pdf

If you have trouble with PDF files try this
Abortion Surveillance - United States, 2000. This Center for Disease Control summary gives the number and characteristics of women who have obtained a legal induced abortion. 2003
MMWR Surveillance Summaries November 28, 2003 Vol. 52, No. SS-

http://www.wiu.edu/library/govpubs/guides/abortion.htm

[asjr]

8. I am waiting for the religious right to outlaw

hysterectomies for medical reasons, because that is the ultmate birth control. I am so sick of the white, right-wing, religious nuts telling me what I can and can not do with my own body.

[serryjw]

10. Maybe one of the few things I agree with the thugs on

We should 10% of the hysterectomies in America that we do.....the most overuse surgery that makes doctors a fortune.

[EmmaP]

14. Just out of curiosity

Where the hell did you ever get the idea that 40 was the cut-off for women being able to reproduce?

Women do not hit the magical 4-0 and suddenly no longer need birth control.

[bammertheblue]

15. They should lose their license.

I'd damn well make sure everyone in that store knew what the pharmacist was doing. To me that's the epitome of unethical behaviour.
Of course I'd never shop there again and I'd tell anyone who'd listen to do the same.

Edit- sorry I keep responding to the wrong message. I'm still figuring this out.

[musical_soul]

16. Girl under forty here.

Don't know what this was about. :)

I'm all for choice. I see filling certain presciptions as part of the job of being a pharmacist, and I see no problem with the concept of firing somebody who refused to do so. I think perhaps refusing corporate welfare to some of these major companies who allow this type of unprofessionalism would help a lot.

I have mixed feelings about individual business owners though. If they don't want to sell it, then it seems wrong for the government to tell them they have to sell it. It's their business after all. Still highly unprofessional. I think we should boycott businesses that might engage in this tactic.

[Nobody]

17. Privacy is the key

Consider that most people who claim to be pro-life acknowledge that there are acceptable reasons for a woman to get an abortion: Rape. Incest (often the same as rape, but by a blood relative). High probability of death in childbirth.

Since these reasons are deemed acceptable to these people, they are really pro-choice as long as they are the ones making the choice. Never mind that they aren't the ones who have to live with the results.

This is where privacy comes in. Because no one is willing to share their medical records, police reports, etc. with strangers so that the strangers can decide for them how they are going to deal with a pregnancy. Such a personal life decision is not anyone's to make for others. No one is under any obligation to share with judgemental strangers why they are making such a personal decision.

[HockeyMom]

19. Brain Dead People

Best one I ever heard? From one Freeper on an ectopic pregnancy. That is was not NECESSARY to "abort" the "fetus". BED REST until the baby was around 22 and then a C-Section.

I kid you not. This is who is in control. So you wonder about the misinformation?

[WildClarySage]

20. um... wow.

I can't think of anything else to say. I nearly lost a friend who had an ectopic pregnancy, not because she was thwarted in getting an 'abortion' but because she had medicaid and her dr was reluctant to schedule surgery she wouldn't be paying going rates for. She was only 6 weeks along at the time, too.

22 weeks??? The fetal survival rate at 22 weeks, even if you could live so long with an ectopic pregnancy, which you can't, is miniscule. What kind of an idiot would endorse that???

[HockeyMom]

21. Exactly

I was 5 weeks along when my fallopian tube BURST. Teach these people some BIOLOGY. IGNORANCE is not Bliss.

[fortyfeetunder]

18. Maybe you should have rephrased your request

to non-menopausal women....