Theories that Aluminothermic Materials Were Used to Destroy the Twin Towers

[Stanchetalarooni]

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/theories/thermite.html

The idea that thermite or similar preparations were used exclusively or in combination with other methods to destroy the Twin Towers remained unexamined for several years after the attack, despite its merits.

Aluminothermic reactions are exothermic chemical reactions in which aluminum is oxidized while an oxide of another metal is reduced. Although high temperatures are required to initiate such reactions, they are easily self-sustaining once started due to the heat they generate. The most common example of an aluminothermic reaction is thermite, in which powdered aluminum reacts with an iron oxide. Because aluminum has a greater affinity for oxygen than iron, oxygen is transferred from the iron oxide to the aluminum, releasing a great deal of energy and leaving behind molten iron and aluminum oxide.


The spout of orange molten metal and rising white smoke emerging form the South Tower have the appearance of a thermite reaction.
Professor Steven Jones has noted that a number of features evident both before and after the falls of the Towers fit the theory that thermite was used.


http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/theories/thermite.html

[zappaman]

1. Actually

The idea that thermite or similar preparations were used exclusively or in combination with other methods to destroy the Twin Towers has been thoroughly debunked numerous times.
Really, are you just posting all of his nonsense for a reason?
I find you OPs to be quite boring as they have been addressed on many occasions.

[whatchamacallit]

2. I'd like to read that debunking

do you have a link?

[Stanchetalarooni]

3. Post 'em if you've got em.

Please post these debunks and thank you for responding civilly.

[mrarundale]

4. It has never been debunked, but

my problems with any kind of demolition theory are:
the evidence was destroyed immediately
Many, if not all, of the photographic/video evidence looks questionable if not outright fake
The dust that was tested came from FEMA who is implicated in 9-11 by their presence in NYC prior to the day and their general shadiness.

Also, thermite just shows up as iron aluminum and maybe magnesium (as I recall) which would be there anyway. Although the nano stuff has a more complex reaction which I guess was found in a sample, but again, it was from FEMA...

but, maybe...


I kind of think it was either something very simple, using what was there anyway, like natural gas - or something very high tech/militari-esh that most of us don't really know about.

[Stanchetalarooni]

6. Nano-thermite found in WTC dust

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Tu-BDNmiBmcJ:www.esoterictube.com/danish-chemist-found-nano-thermite-in-wtc-dust.html+source+dust+samples+thermite&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

One sample was from a man who had swept up a handful of dust on the Brooklyn Bridge, where he was walking when the second tower fell. As the journal authors note, “It was, therefore, definitely not contaminated by the steel-cutting or clean-up operations at Ground Zero, which began later. Furthermore, it is not mixed with dust from WTC-7, which fell hours later.”

Another man collected dust in his apartment, about five blocks from the World Trade Center, on the morning of Sept. 12. There was a layer about an inch thick on a stack of folded laundry near an open window.

Red/gray chips, averaging in size between .2 and 3 mm, were found in all four dust samples. The chips were then analyzed using scanning electron microscopy and other high-tech tools.

[deconstruct911]

5. Key word: theories,

However I also disagree that it has been "thoroughly debunked" because other possibilities about where the materials originated from doesn't automatically debunk anything.

My theory is that "Aluminothermic Materials" were primarily used in a thermobaric weapon to vaporize the steel,(which would explain the "jet fuel pouring down elevators phenomenon) rather than create overwhelming amounts of molten steel. However I certainly believe a possible place for the use of thermite is at the impact zones and maybe around the steel at the base.

[Stanchetalarooni]

7. I appreciate your comment...

"However I also disagree that it has been "thoroughly debunked" because other possibilities about where the materials originated from doesn't automatically debunk anything."

The only true debunking is when one tests the null hypothysis.

The null hypothesis is an hypothesis about a population parameter. The purpose of hypothesis testing is to test the viability of the null hypothesis in the light of experimental data. Depending on the data, the null hypothesis either will or will not be rejected as a viable possibility.

Consider a researcher interested in whether the time to respond to a tone is affected by the consumption of alcohol. The null hypothesis is that µ1 - µ2 = 0 where µ1 is the mean time to respond after consuming alcohol and µ2 is the mean time to respond otherwise. Thus, the null hypothesis concerns the parameter µ1 - µ2 and the null hypothesis is that the parameter equals zero.

The null hypothesis is often the reverse of what the experimenter actually believes; it is put forward to allow the data to contradict it. In the experiment on the effect of alcohol, the experimenter probably expects alcohol to have a harmful effect. If the experimental data show a sufficiently large effect of alcohol, then the null hypothesis that alcohol has no effect can be rejected.

http://davidmlane.com/hyperstat/A29337.html

[LARED]

8. Are you rehashing truther nonsense chronologically or

is it just random?

[BeFree]

9. More bullshit from you lared?

More of the same bs, just a different day?

[LARED]

10. Heh, I thought that was a compelling and important question

The daisy chain committee needs to be prepared for the next round of suppressing the truth.

[BeFree]

11. Of course you did

Cause you think the bullshit you spew has some importance.

Have you ever wondered why no one here takes you seriously? Now you know?

[Make7]

12. 7. Address the argument instead of attacking the person making the argument.

 
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=277126&mesg_id=277126
 

[zappaman]

13. Heh

The "honest discussion" thread authored by BEFREE is in the IRONIC HALL OF FAME.

[Stanchetalarooni]

15. You must not be familiar with some of these debate scholars.

Their most commonly articulated form of arguement is the use of the one word which Einstein uttered when he deceided to cut through the cow pasture on his way to class.

[Make7]

16. That's an accurate summation of the substance of BeFree's posts in this thread. ( n/t )

[LARED]

14. Humm, a personal attack

Shocking, I tell you, shocking.