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Wed Mar-31-10 01:37 AM
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Got Your Popcorn Ready? -- LBJ's Mistress of 21 Yrs Tells All (because her son & JFK were mudered)..... |
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Wed Mar-31-10 01:43 AM
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1. You realize all the things wrong with Madeleine Brown's story.... |
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Wed Mar-31-10 01:44 AM
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2. Who are you defending? n/t |
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Wed Mar-31-10 01:51 AM
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3. Who are you trying to get the heat off of? nt |
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Wed Mar-31-10 07:13 AM
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16. LOL - Never looked at it that way |
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But there does seem to be quite the investment among some folks that are offended by the idea of a lone nutjob doing something violent.
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Wed Mar-31-10 01:52 AM
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4. Oh, for Pete's sakes... |
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Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 01:53 AM by SDuderstadt
taking issue with the goofy videos and theories you post is not "defending" anyone.
You need to study the fallacy known as "psychic foreclosure". You're essentially arguing that your point or theory is not debatable because the only reason someone would be doing so is to defend a guilty party. Nice try.
So, simple question. Have you fact-checked this particular theory. Have you tried to falsify it?
Bonus question: is there ANY conspiracy theory so goofy even YOU won't embrace it?
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Wed Mar-31-10 02:48 AM
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5. When a person resorts defaults to character assassination as his/her 'Bonus Question'... |
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...doesn't that say more about the questioner? (or is that just a "goofy" question?)
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Wed Mar-31-10 02:57 AM
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7. Has it occurred to you to get some popcorn & enjoy the movie??? |
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Wouldn't you like to know what you're objecting to?
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Wed Mar-31-10 03:25 AM
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8. Dude...do you think you discovered this?? |
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Do you think I didn't know about it before you brought it to my attention? See, the difference between you and me is I educate myself on both sides of the issue. That's how I know the flaws in this "documentary". Simple question, dude: Have you ever read the WCR?
The advantage of the WCR is it provides a consistent, coherent account of that day that is corroborated by the physical evidence and, through the convergence of evidence, unmistakably points to LHO.
On the other hand, we have a bunch of disparate CT's that have JFK being shot about 140 times by 60 or more people from every conceivable angle within Dealey Plaza. Simple question: why can't the "assassination community" converge on a unified, cohesive theory that can be falsified? Hint: because you're trying to solve a crime that's already been solved. You guys couldn't even convince EMK of your goofy theories. Enough is enough, dude.
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Wed Mar-31-10 03:42 AM
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9. The entire word is tired of propaganda... n/t |
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Wed Mar-31-10 03:48 AM
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Wed Mar-31-10 04:04 AM
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11. I guess I should yield to you superior intellect here... |
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Wed Mar-31-10 04:51 AM
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12. Well, for starters, Steven Mark Brown wasn't "murdered"... |
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he died of lymphatic cancer in 1990, 27 years after the assassination. I've never heard of anyone being "murdered" with lymphatic cancer, which is why I asked whether you had bothered to fact-check this.
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Wed Mar-31-10 06:29 AM
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Wed Mar-31-10 07:00 AM
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14. Please watch the video in the OP - Does this woman appear to be a fake? |
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How could she know what she knows if she weren't there? Why would she lie about things she'd kept secret for decades?
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Wed Mar-31-10 08:07 AM
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17. Hmmm... Does She Seem Fake? |
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Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 08:07 AM by jberryhill
The jury that convicted her of forgery evidently thought so.
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Wed Mar-31-10 08:12 PM
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26. There is a big difference |
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between forgery and perjury. If you were an attorney you would know that. Oh wait, you are an attorney, my bad.
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:57 AM
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33. She had a fake will submitted to probate court |
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...and who said anything about perjury?
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Wed Mar-31-10 11:14 AM
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18. Did you do the slightest bit of independent research... |
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before you unleashed this video on everyone?
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Wed Mar-31-10 05:13 PM
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which you'd know about if you bothered to do the tiniest bit of fact-checking before posting this nonsense. http://davesjfk.com/browns.htmlhttp://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbrownM.htm
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Tue Apr-06-10 11:15 PM
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44. You're right on that point... |
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...and I stand corrected, but it's too late to change my headline.
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Wed Mar-31-10 07:05 AM
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15. For the curious -- Watch the video before watching the attempted hijacking of this thread... n/t |
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Wed Mar-31-10 11:19 AM
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19. Challenging the factual basis of the nonsense you post... |
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isn't "hijacking the thread", dude.
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Wed Mar-31-10 12:17 PM
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22. "it doesn't matter what evidence you provide" |
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The kewl thing is that as long as you put the critics on ignore, you'll never have to know whether that's right or wrong.
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Wed Mar-31-10 12:24 PM
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23. And become even more insular with ZERO checks and balances on... |
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confirmation bias.
I love how conspiracy theorists barricade themselves against anyone who dares to ask them hard questions by regarding anyone who does so as some sort of "enemy of the truth", in "true believer" fashion...
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Wed Mar-31-10 06:06 PM
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do some fact-checking about the guy interviewing Brown and you'll find his cnnection to the Spotlight. Do you know anything about the Spotlight? Does the name Liberty Lobby mean anything to you?
Serious question: do you have any compunction at all about promoting far right propaganda?
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Thu Apr-01-10 03:18 AM
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...and judge for yourself its veracity. Think for yourselves w/o fear of repercussions from the trolls.
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Thu Apr-01-10 03:30 AM
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28. Who are you calling a "troll", dude? |
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Anyone who dares disagree with you on the facts?
Again I ask...did you bother to fact-check this video?
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Thu Apr-01-10 04:04 AM
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29. Did I call you out as a troll? |
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No.
Did you just do that for yourself?
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Thu Apr-01-10 04:37 AM
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Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 04:38 AM by SDuderstadt
you need to review the rules, dude.
It's a dangerous game you're playing.
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Thu Apr-01-10 04:40 AM
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31. Non-trolls, please enjoy the movie and respond with your honest reactions... |
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Thu Apr-01-10 04:51 AM
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32. Simple aquestion, dude... |
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did you bother to fact-check this video?
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Thu Apr-01-10 01:37 PM
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If "fack chekin" entails entirely of eating popcorn. :popcorn:
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Thu Apr-01-10 11:00 PM
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35. Thank you! I'll have to check it out.... |
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especially since they're obviously so against people seeing it. :hi:
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:44 PM
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42. I like the way you think. |
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Speaking of which, what are your thoughts about the video?
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:39 PM
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37. LOL - this crap has been around since the 1960's |
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You would think LBJ was FDR or something the way the RW'ers continually attack him. Barr McClellan is the latest of those seeking to attack the full legacy of LBJ. They claim it conspiracy, but in truth it almost always centers around his Presidency's legacy Civil Rights legislation. Same type of indirect attacks against FDR due to his New Deal and the same type going against Obama, though most of those against Obama are much more naked in their racism.
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:45 PM
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Whose side are you on? The assassins?
Just kidding.
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:50 PM
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39. Personally (mod hat off and all that) |
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Knowing the back story of all the hate directed towards LBJ by the country-club conservative types here in Texas, any conspiracy theory involving him has a lot of 'splainin' to do.
If I wasn't working too many hours at work, it would be interesting to draw up the parallels of LBJ as a proto-Obama, particularly around the reactions of both the Progressive and Conservative sets. The Progressives hated him because of his War in Vietnam (Afghanistan) and the Cons hated him because of his stand on Civil Rights (Health Care).
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:10 PM
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41. Even we don't give LBJ enough credit |
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It's only in the last couple of years that I've come to fully appreciate his legacy.
He was, of course, the original JFK assassination conspiracy theorist, as his immediate concern was that it was some sort of command decapitation attack, and he wanted to get out of Dallas and in the air asap.
His behavior and statements in the immediate aftermath of the shooting don't support the idea that he was a perp here, but somehow that gets conveniently airbrushed out of the picture by some.
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Sat Apr-03-10 12:05 PM
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40. I've had my popcorn ready for days |
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:50 PM
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43. Save it for the next chemtrail thread |
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People are spending more time outside now that it's warming up. They'll be here any minute.
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