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Thu Mar-11-10 11:07 AM
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Diane Rheim show today (3/11). Calling those who dispute the official CT paranoid.. |
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A lady caller said the findings of architects & engineers and others, etc. have not been addressed.
David Cole, one of the guests says we have enough to think about with bringing the alleged terrorists to trial without opening the door to the "paranoid" thinking of those who question the events of 9/11.
I'm appalled. I won't go into detail here, because it's all been said over and over and over. But I can only say that no commercial airliner impacted the Pentagon. I can't deny what I know about how the world works. It's amazing how much effort goes into denying all the anomalies that occurred that day.
I'm at a loss as to whether David Cole really believes the official conspiracy theory, or whether he knows better and can't bring himself to open that Pandora's box.
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Thu Mar-11-10 01:08 PM
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1. A commercial airliner did indeed hit the Pentagon. |
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Please read the book Firefight by Patrick Creed and Rick Newman. You can probably get a copy at your local library.
Those architects and engineers are cranks and snake oil salesmen.
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:05 AM
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9. and you're just a concerned citizen |
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trying to do your patriotic duty, right?
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Fri Mar-12-10 08:19 AM
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10. I certainly don't solicit money for anything I may do. n/t |
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Sat Mar-13-10 08:10 AM
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17. you don't solicit money, eh? |
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Sat Mar-13-10 02:50 PM
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26. No, I do not. I don't take money in any form for this at all. |
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I don't get paid to be here. I don't ask for money to be here. No one drops cash on my doorstep. NO MONEY COMES TO ME FOR DEBUNKING 9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORIES WHATSOEVER.
Is that phrasing interesting to you?
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Sun Mar-14-10 07:43 AM
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27. No-- not as much as your first comment |
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:40 PM
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11. "Cranks and snake oil.." From your mouth to God's ear. n/t |
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Thu Mar-11-10 02:59 PM
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2. oh, good you have evidence? |
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"But I can only say that no commercial airliner impacted the Pentagon. I can't deny what I know about how the world works."
So happy that you have solid evidence. Please present it so I can also say no commercial airliner impacted the pentagon. And don't tell me it's out there, cuz I can't find it. Please present the evidence here.
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Thu Mar-11-10 04:31 PM
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3. I'm gonna go ahead and not believe your account of what was said |
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until I see a transcript to back it up.
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:42 PM
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12. By all means. but I'm not gonna do your work for you..... |
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You know where to find transcripts.
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Sat Mar-13-10 05:21 AM
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16. Please let us know when you have a transcript to back it up. |
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Or a video, whatever. The people want evidence.
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Sat Mar-13-10 12:47 PM
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25. It's YOUR claim, dude... |
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do you realize how stupid it is to ask someone to prove your claim?
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Thu Mar-11-10 04:34 PM
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4. "But I can only say that no commercial airliner impacted the Pentagon" |
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Yeah, despite the fact there are 100+ direct eyewitnesses that saw the plane hit the Pentagon. Oy!
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:47 PM
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13. "plane"....yes, some sort of aircraft, to be sure. n/t |
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Sat Mar-13-10 09:03 AM
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the passengers from the flight that hit the Pentagon were identified by their DNA. Quit being silly.
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Thu Mar-11-10 06:02 PM
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5. AFAIK AE911truth tries to stay away from the Pentagon and make no claims to my knowledge |
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Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 06:03 PM by jakeXT
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Sat Mar-13-10 11:06 AM
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20. True. But if the official explanation fails on that, then what does it say |
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about the other events that day.
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Fri Mar-12-10 04:52 AM
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6. I listened to the responses |
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Establishment consensus Rule #1: Good faith motives are not up for review. Period. Anyone who deviates from this should rightly be considered an unpatriotic conspiracy nut. Thus Cheney's conduct is properly understood as a good faith overreaction. A panicked response by White House officials who were desperate to protect the country.
Short answer: The guests are full of shit. Nobody should dismiss their doubts about 9/11 because some "serious people" find such questions unseemly.
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Fri Mar-12-10 11:52 PM
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Sat Mar-13-10 03:51 AM
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15. The disconnect is very strange |
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They were talking about torture and military commissions. Are these good faith policies? Were the architects of these policies acting in good faith? Have the architects of these policies ever accounted for their pre-9/11 conduct?
Is there such thing as corruption? Is there such thing as secrecy? Not according to these guests. Evidently the debate is over policy disagreements.
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Sat Mar-13-10 11:30 AM
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In my view, there is enough circumstantial evidence to have brought the 9/11 events to trial a long time ago.
There are some who would say, "Circumstantial evidence....bleh!" But absent a confession or an eyewitness (in this case, someone who actually saw the towers being wired for demolition, for example), all you ever have is circumstantial evidence. People are convicted on circumstantial evidence all the time.
For those in this forum who choose to accept the OCT, there is nothing I can say that would change their mind, as everything that could be said has been said over the past 8+ years. They've come to their own conclusions, for whatever reasons.
There is something to be said for inductive reasoning, however; by means of observations, detecting patterns that lead us to a general conclusion. That conclusion could be tested (in a court of law, perhaps?) but the PTB are never going to let that happen. Sad.
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Sat Mar-13-10 11:37 AM
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22. Circumstantial evidence? |
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Would be what? Video of planes impacting? Thousands of witnesses seeing planes impact? But, let's just forget all that. The evil BUSHCO lied alot so they MUST be lying about this in a cover-up requiring thousands, if not millions of co-conspirators. Best of all, none of the "truthers" who subscribe to the silly "no-planes" theory have yet to explain the missing passengers. Please explain where these fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, cousins, and friends disappeared to. Please present the evidence here.
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Sat Mar-13-10 11:43 AM
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23. You also have thousands of recovery workers, not one of whom... |
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found any physical evidence of controlled demolition...no det cord, no blasting caps, nothing.
No prosecutor is going to bring anyone to trial for 9/11 based solely on circumstantial evidence.
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Fri Mar-12-10 06:32 AM
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Fri Mar-12-10 07:05 AM
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8. the media is full of shills |
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they are either brainwashed or pure intel--
and the Diane Rehm show is too disgusting for me to listen anymore (like almost opinion/news shows). Pure propaganda presented in oh, such a reasonable way.
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