Lingo question. What is a "rude toter"

[Nuclear Unicorn]

Seen the phrase a couple of times and can't seeme to draw out the context.

Would someone fill me in plzkbaithanx

[ileus]

1. anyone with a gun (toter) in public = being rude to society.

You're rude if you CC


You're intimidating and hatefilled if you OC

[rrneck]

3. Minor addition.

You're also sneaky if you CC.

[ileus]

5. no no....yoiu've got something to hide. Criminal in waiting...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

10. So this is a pro-gun term to mock gun control advocates?

If I'm in on the context now -- you're bad / rude if you carry concealed and you're worse / hostile if you open carry.

I don't know if gun control advocates frame things that way but if anyone did frame it that way it seems any form of possession outside the house is cause for criticism.

[AtheistCrusader]

19. It's the new 'gun nut'.

[rl6214]

44. Is that the new "gun militant" or

did "gun militant" replace "gun nut"?

[PavePusher]

23. There are several people here who frame it exactly that way.

They also claim to know what such people are thinking....

[ileus]

29. well it's supposed to be a anti-gun term to mock gun advocates.

but the pro gunnites grabbed it up and started using it. :)

[SteveM]

53. May have a link to Jamaican reggae term "rude boy,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_boy

There are some Reggae and certainly Jamaican Dance Hall music which uses the expression "rude boy," "rudie," and other expressions either promoting a criminal/thug lifestyle or denouncing it. Often, "rude boys" carry guns. Term developed from the 60s during the Rock Steady era of Jamaican music.

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/05/20105279219418167.html

Clearly, the "rude boy" culture in Jamaica has morphed from its disruptive thugish behavior into a powerful gang culture, led by Christoper "Dudus" Coke, which last year held the nation's military and LEO at bay for weeks in a virtual mini-war in Kingston. Coke was up for extradition to the U.S. Yet another chapter in the Drug Wars.

[spin]

35. In Florida if you carry in public you have to get a license ...

and you have to carry concealed.

If you are not "sneaky" you face legal problems.

Therefore, under your definition, I am sneaky. I also am not stupid. I prefer to obey laws.

[rrneck]

36. Not my definition

another poster who shall remain unnamed.

This business of micro managing how people look in public is absurd.

[rl6214]

43. Not only that but you're dishonest if you CC

[Nuclear Unicorn]

4. how is it rude? If it's concealed supposedly it can't be seen

If it can't be seen who would know?

Kind of like breaking wind in public. If you do it an elevator full of people it's rude but if you're in your car by yourself with the windows rolled up, so what?

Not being picky, just asking.

[ileus]

6. Nope any gun in public is a dangerous nuisance...and not very progressive.

[Maine_Nurse]

11. So we need to disarm the police? nt

[oneshooter]

14. According to some here, yes. They want British law to reign supreme.

And I honestly believed that this was taken care of 235 years ago.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[ileus]

15. only local police, the State police are acceptable.

[oneshooter]

18. Everywhere but Texas. n/t

[X_Digger]

38. Ileus, you need a 'tongue planted firmly in cheek' icon thingie..

Way too many people don't recognize the sarcasm :)

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

22. Only on Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays. n/t

[TheWraith]

8. Ask the people who seriously believe that.

There's one or two people here who seem to seriously advance the belief that just carrying a firearm is somehow an assault on the moral fabric of society.

[rrneck]

13. that's how prejudice works.

There is no way to make them happy. If you carry concealed you're dishonest. If you carry open you're intimidating. Damned if you do - damned if you don't.

I doubt they even realize the incoherence of their bigotry.

Remember, to some this is not a forum for discussion. For them its group therapy. Or maybe a sewing circle.

[oneshooter]

12. And don't forget "uncivilized" . n/t

[PavePusher]

24. And "tacky".

[rrneck]

2. One who engages in the practice of

carrying a firearm in public in such a manner that offends the sensibilities of those whose sense of environmental aesthetics would vibrate like a tuning fork struck by a ball peen hammer.

[iverglas]

7. you know that search function?

The term has been used in three threads in the last few days. It is apparently the new favourite meme of a certain element here, which has patched it together for its own merriment.



I know you won't know what that is either ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhkZLhqRo9k

[MineralMan]

9. Here's an example of a "rude toter:"

A guy takes offense at me parking next to his car. He thinks I'm too close, despite both cars being between the lines of their respective parking spaces. He yells at me for parking too close. I point out that my car and his are both inside the parking spaces. He yells louder. I just start to walk past him on my way to the store. He casually brushes back his jacket so I can see his pistol in a shoulder holster and gives me a dirty look.

That's a "rude toter."

My response was to break into loud laughter and point at him. What was he going to do? Draw his pistol? Then I walked to the store to do my shopping.

BTW, I also have a CCW permit. I carry only very rarely.

[AtheistCrusader]

20. No, that's brandishing, and a crime.

[MineralMan]

28. It's also rude.

[ileus]

30. and tacky

[AtheistCrusader]

33. I take it you reported him to the authorities?

The simple fact you knew he was armed would be pretty much slam dunk evidence in your favor.

[MineralMan]

47. No, I didn't. I laughed at him instead.

He was a moron.

[AtheistCrusader]

48. Why would you ignore an actual crime?

This is a serious issue. That asshole may have gone on to do something even worse.

[MineralMan]

49. You know, if I reported every illegal thing I observed, I'd be on

the police list of nuisance callers. This guy is just a moron. I assessed his behavior and decided he was just an idiot, who had no intention of doing anything with his pistol other than displaying its existence to me. So, I laughed in his face. Yes, I could have called the police, but what would have been the point? It would have been my word against his, and nothing would have been done about it. I did not feel threatened by his moronic display. I believe my response was appropriate. You have a different opinion. So, you call the police when a similar thing happens to you, OK? I'll make my own decisions at the time.

[Kennah]

39. Rude toting is a lesser included offense for brandishing

[sylvi]

16. I dunno

I'm still trying to figure out how the word "tote" was arrived at as a term of derision any more than "carry", "haul", "possess", "bear", or any other such term.

I guess it's all in the imagination of the writer, but it seems kind of childish.

[oneshooter]

17. Most all of them what use it are too. n/t

[NewMoonTherian]

21. So we just have to take it back.

It's fairly new as a slur, and I don't think I've seen it used as such outside this board. So, we just start using it in a positive context. Shouldn't take long at all.

[PavePusher]

25. Heh, I'd be happy to. Sure easier to say than "I lawfully carry a defensive firearm". n/t

[ileus]

31. don't forget strapon toters...

[Kennah]

41. Is that carrying a gun with a smudge of mustard on the grip?

[Kennah]

40. When I first saw the thread, don't bogart that joint jumped in my head. But that's a rude toker.

[SteveM]

54. The only thing worse than Bogarting is having to listen to the rude toker's spiel.

[rl6214]

45. See I think 'tote' is supposed to be some sort of veiled insult

"Childish"? Yup, whole heartedly agree.

[iverglas]

50. well, I'll have to go back to my own favourite

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&complete=0&q=+site:democraticunderground.com+iverglas+festooned&biw=1024&bih=640

sylvi, friend, you are aware that the association between the words "tote" and "gun" precedes the existence of this forum by many decades?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tote

tote 1
tr.v. tot·ed, tot·ing, totes Informal
1. To haul; lug.
2. To have on one's person; pack: toting guns.

One could tote a gun in a tote bag ... or a fanny pack ...

[ProgressiveProfessor]

26. A term that one of the anit gun posters here tried to coin and the pro gun people took as their own

I am sure the anti who started with it regrets it at this point.

[iverglas]

51. seriously

do you own a dictionary ... or a mouse?


JUNE 2011 TABLE OF CONTENTS | Soldier of Fortune Magazine
www.sofmag.com/june-2011-table-contents - Cached
5 May 2011 – But could a rifle many have seen John Wayne tote around be ...

Dallas Reviews & Ratings - IMDb
www.imdb.com/title/tt0042372/reviews - Cached
Gary Cooper and a marshal change identities, since they both agree Cooper .... He is dressed outrageously like the tin-horn and doesn't even tote a six-gun. ...

When Westerns Were King
www.waitsel.com/moviearticles/Westerns.html - Cached
25 Jun 2007 – ... Hawks, Jimmy Stewart, John Houston, Gary Cooper, Anthony Mann, ... they ride, the dangerousness of the guns they tote, the hardness of the ...

[ProgressiveProfessor]

52. Snork

The term was "toter" and we both know who tried to coin that term here. Right now it is being fed to him regularly.

[rl6214]

57. Snork

now there's a rude term

[Hoopla Phil]

60. Snork

Snork

Snork

Snork

Snork

Snork

yup

[Straw Man]

58. Thank you for the awesome display of lexicography ...

... but it really wasn't necessary. Everyone knows the cornball cowboy pedigree of the verb "to tote." Obviously that was the primary motivation for the derisive use of the term on this forum. One is tempted to adopt it for the purpose of co-opting it. The only problem is that it just sounds so ... stupid.

Now you'll have to excuse me: I'm plumb tuckered-out from jawin' with all these city-slickers who have the gumption to try and tell me when and where I can tote my shootin' iron. I think I'd better hit the hay so I can get some shut-eye before sun-up. The chuck wagon comes early in this neck of the woods ...

"Toters" as a pejorative? Aw, that's so cute ...

[GreenStormCloud]

27. It is sarcasm against gun-controllers.

Certain posters here call those of us who carry concealed "toters", for toting a gun. They claim to prize a civilized society. So some posters call a toter who uses his gun in self-defense "rude", because it was so impolite of him to use his gun to defend himself. (sarcasm]He should have done the polite, civilized thing and complied with the criminal.(/sarcasm)

[gravity556]

46. That was the impression I got as well.

In particular I read "rude toter" to mean "gun owner with the temerity to actually defend himself with a firearm".

[ileus]

32. This just may win TOTW; thread of the week, if you're not careful.

[Glassunion]

34. It's simple.

It's when Glassunion puts on his all-too-busy hot pink coyboy boots with spurrs and his old school Colt Revolver. Then he goes around cutting in lines, failing to hold doors open and wont let people merge in traffic.

[Kennah]

42. Side, cross, side, together. Left, right, left, hold. Point, pivot, pivot, together. Like that?

[petronius]

37. "Rude" is obviously a misspelling of rood, an archaic term for a crucifix

And we all know that a toter is a person who counts things up. So clearly, a "rude (sic) toter" is some sort of medieval religious census-taker, or perhaps a tithe collector. Honestly, I'm surprised you'd need to ask... :shrug:

[DissedByBush]

55. Overly sensitive people who can't keep their mouths shut

And find the need to complain about others exercising their rights.

They "tote" their self-righteousness on their shoulders.

[DWC]

56. A "rude toter" is a Real Voter

who strongly supports the 2nd amendment, but they are in the minority. There is only about 80 million of them in the USA.:patriot:

Semper Fi,

[ileus]

59. 80 million people with bad habits.... LOL

[Hoopla Phil]

61. And they're tacky to boot.

[Name removed]

62. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.