The anti-gun male. A good explanation of the phenomenon of a man who is afraid of….. GUNS.

[lawodevolution]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_36_17/ai_78790486/

Let's be honest. He's scared of the thing. That's understandable -- so am I. But I'm a girl and have the luxury of being able to admit it. I don't have to masquerade squeamishness as grand principle -- in the interest of mankind, no less.

A man does. He has to say things such as "One Taniqua Hall is one too many," as a New York radio talk-show host did in referring to the 9-year-old New York girl who accidentally was shot earlier this year by her 12-year-old cousin while playing with his uncle's gun. But the truth is he desperately needs Taniqua Hall, just like he needs as many Columbines and Santees as can be mustered, until they spell an end to the Second Amendment -- and not for the benefit of the masses, but for the benefit of his self-esteem .

He often accuses men with guns of "compensating for something." The truth is quite the reverse. After all, how is he supposed to feel knowing there are men out there who aren't intimidated by the big bad inanimate villain? How is he to feel in the face of adolescent boys who have used a family gun effectively in defending the family from an armed intruder? So if he doesn't want to touch a gun, he doesn't want other men to either . And to achieve his ends, he'll use the only weapon he knows how to manipulate: the law.

This is not to say that sexual and psychological insecurities are the sole motivations driving the antigun male, or that they explain all men against guns. Certainly there must be some whose motives are pure, who perhaps do care so much as to look tirelessly for policy solutions to teen-age aggression and domestic negligence where none exist. But for a potentially large underlying contributor, it's gone unexplored and unacknowledged

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This sums up anti gun males very well.

[lawodevolution]

1. Another type of anti-gun male or person is one with the authority to carry or have a gun

who is vested with this authority by the same government that he/she wishes to ban the right of the common man from owning a gun. This person has a feeling of entitlement to be special and have access to firearms and that others do not. This explains the gun owning anti-gun person.

[gravity556]

2. Awesome!

Pretty well sums it up..:)

[spin]

3. K&R (n/t)

[Starboard Tack]

4. Poor attempt at satire by an ultra conservative Dem basher

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

5. So it's a RW pundit. No surprise, given the childishness and vacuousness of the ''argument''.

"Neener, neener, everybody I don't agree with is a poopyhead!"

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[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

25. I am?

You assume too much.

[gejohnston]

27. sometimes I do. If so in this case,

:spank: :hide:

[MicaelS]

7. I like it...Prohibtionists are always making snarky

Comments that gun owners are "compensating" for small genitalia, and thus questioning their manhood. But when the same thing is done to Prohibitionists, then it's a "Poor attempt at satire".

[safeinOhio]

6. who is this author you love and quote?

Julia Gorin is an American conservative writer, humorist, and political commentator.<[br />
As right wing as they get and as funny as kid getting run over by a car.

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[DanTex]

8. A pretty good window into the minds of pro-gun extremists

Hits most of the key notes: right wing, alpha-male obsession, violence fetish, anti-urbanism, touch of paranoia...

If it were actually funny, I might have guessed it came from a Stephen Colbert monologue.

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[gejohnston]

11. define extremist.

Many of the RKBA posters are female, the alpha-male canard is bogus. I'm not obseesed with alpha males. She could have just as easily referred to females.
paranoia? Your side thinks every target shooter or hunter is a mass murderer waiting to be.
anti-urbanism? What is anti urban? Anti suburban maybe. I see more anti-rural on your side. The beauty of broadband internet (and Powells.com) is that you can have the culture and bookstores of the city at your fingertips while sitting in Tombstone, AZ or Farson, WY for example. If I can have the best of both worlds, why not?

[DanTex]

20. For example, the author of this article, along with people voicing approval.

The term "alpha male" is taken directly from the article linked in the OP. Did you read the article? Because there's also anti-urbanism and plenty of all-around right-wing nutjobbery.

Maybe you don't agree with the gist of it, but it's gotten some positive reviews, which means that it resonates with at least some of the pro-gun posters here (and DU guns is one of the tamest gun boards out there...).

Unlike your straw accusations about what "my side thinks" this OP (and the generally positive reception it's received from "your side") is a very concrete example of the way that many on the pro-gun side think.

[gejohnston]

26. I skimmed it

do you think anti-urbanism is exclusively conservative or right wing? I think not. What are your definitions of conservative or right wing? Do you think all rural or "self reliant" types are right wing? Or is it simply a case of if you are different than me, you are right wing?
Straw man? Maybe, but I do get that impression from your side.
This is mild. The worst on both sides gets deleted. Sometimes that is unfortunate.

[safeinOhio]

22. You make me laugh

According to Wikipedia the author is a "conservative comedian"

I guess some people are fooled(or brain washed) easily.

[DanTex]

28. And how exactly do I make you laugh?

I'm fully aware that this article was written by a right-wing nut. That was (part of) my point, in fact.

[safeinOhio]

29. apology

responded to the wrong post.

[DanTex]

30. np. That's what it seemed like.

[enough]

12. Sorry to be dim, but is anybody here at DU actually taking this seriously as an

explanation or insight about anything? Help me out. I'm old and the heat is getting to me. Just explain it to me slowly.

I come to this forum because I'm interested in all kinds of issues around guns for various reasons. I have one young friend who was killed in a random mass shooting on a college campus, another who was raped at 15 by a stranger at gunpoint. Three family members of a friend were recently shot in their livingroom by a disgruntled acquaintance who walked in . (Two dead, one still critical.) On the other hand, half the people I know are hunters, we hunt our own land, and venison is my favorite meat. I'm actually not on one side or the other. I think the issues are complex.

But it sometimes it seems to me on this forum that people are just here to bash the "other side." This piece of writing seems to be a perfect example of that. What am I missing?

[gejohnston]

15. Seriously? I think it is kind of a mirror but

I never heard of the woman before. A lot of the "anti" arguments I see around here and other places is very similar or worse. Granted, there are a few attempt reasonable debate, but blind ideology gets in the way.

[lawodevolution]

16. so

You like hunting so you don't want your hunting rifles banned, correct? But you are willing to ban "assault rifles"?

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[enough]

33. My point is that if anyone thinks the ideas in the OP article help to explain anything

seem to me to be sadly mistaken. One may disagree with it, but there are many reasons why one may be "anti-gun" that have nothing to do with male feelings of inadequacy. To argue that this is where the anti-gun position is coming from seems to me to be inflammatory and stupid.

If you want to argue against gun-control, there are much more cogent ways to approach it.

I bring up the two facts of knowing several people who have been killed by gun violence and also being part of a hunting culture to try to indicate that the notion of being "anti-gun" or "pro-gun" doesn't cover the issues in reality.

[lawodevolution]

34. The point I want to bring up is it is a petty man who enjoys shooting his hunting rifle but also

wants to ban another man's rifle (such as an AR15 or AK47). So I hope you are not the type of hunter who thinks your hunting rifle is ok but the rifle of another man (or woman) should be banned.

[SteveM]

13. Not sure if her views are correct, though an interesting counterpoint to feminist...

writings concerning men "who want to control their women," men compensating for penis length, men who harbor desires to kill women, but use animal-killing as a metaphorical substitute, etc., etc. In the end, maybe just a cat pissing contest.

[gejohnston]

18. Have not seen any of the feminist writings like that but if

there are, they would freak where I come from. Maybe not freak, but have to rethink their views.

http://rfgblog.maryjanesfarm.org/default.asp?Display=23

[SteveM]

21. Good pictures!

Mary Zeiss Stange, Professor of Womens' Studies at Skidmore, has critiqued anti-hunting, anti-gun feminist writings in her books Gun Woman, and Women Who Hunt.

[gejohnston]

32. Thanks, makes me kind of homesick nt

[damntexdem]

17. No, not afraid. Largely disgusted by the thing.

Although not totally disgusted, either. Guns are interesting, useful tools. And I have had fun firing them at firing ranges. But I am totally disgusted by allowing so many of them to be made and sold so freely, to swamp our nation. And I am afraid of idiocy that opposes gun control and makes up fantasies (including SCOTUS fantasies) about the 2nd Amendment.

[gejohnston]

19. thanks for being honest but

we always had gun control including the federal level since the beginning of the US. No one opposes control, the disagreement is to what degree. What SCOTUS fantasies are those? Seems like all of those fantasies come from your side.

[Spoonman]

23. Like the fantasy that the 2nd amendment replaces

ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8 of the constitution?

[petronius]

31. Replace? No. Limit? Absolutely. That's what the BoR is, restrictions on

the powers of government (including Congress)...

[ZombieHorde]

35. The OP's argument seems to come from someone's ass.

I did not read the whole article, but I doubt the author is referring to peered reviewed work.

[lawodevolution]

36. acting out is a common reaction.

[moondust]

37. The author is a comedian.

Julia Gorin writes satire and political commentary for jewishworld review.com and does stand-up comedy from New York City.

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