Is Gun Extremism a Core Republic Party Value?

[jpak]

[Ian David]

1. Republicans are The Party of Zardoz.

Zardoz Speaks
http://youtu.be/YOROvO2fxTc?t=14s

[Blown330]

2. Another vote on Unrec...

...OP is on a roll of hyperbole and fail.

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[jpak]

4. republics suck

yup

[east texas lib]

9. Yet you choose to live in one.

Yup

[jpak]

10. We will deliver smackdown to the GOP/NRA LePage regime in 2012

yup

[Tejas]

15. What are you going to do, bleed on them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_(Monty_Python)

[Ragnarok]

5. I'd rather know why...

...gun ownership is not (apparently) a core Dem Party value. If we don't have the money, we should at least have the guns. Self preservation is important.

[jpak]

Democrats support the Second Amendment but recognize it has limits

with the GOP/NRA gun extremism is their core value - as in GOD, GUNS and GAYS

they're troglodyte assholes

yup

[Tejas]

12. "GOD, GUNS and GAYS"

jpak (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-10-11 07:23 PM
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Democrats support the Second Amendment but recognize it has limits
with the GOP/NRA gun extremism is their core value - as in GOD, GUNS and GAYS

they're troglodyte assholes

yup

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So, you have a problem with others having religious beliefs, their desire for self-preservation, and/or sexual preference?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

25. A low, logicless attack...

...based in emotion only. Note the attempts to distract from the core issue. Note the insults. Note the author. Not unexpected.

[Cirque du So-What]

20. It's a binary world, yunno

If yer not focused like a laser beam on the singular issue of importance, yer 'anti.' Not much in the way of middle ground 'round here.

[gejohnston]

22. Problem with that as one moves too much in one direction, the middle moves with it

Like the "liberal" supremes were mainstream Republicans when Ford etc put them there. Then Roberts and Thomas showed up. I think those two are less right wing and more simply on the take.
The Tea baggers would think Jerry Ford and Eisenhower are commies, both are to the left of Obama. Guess where that puts Boner, Ryan, and Bachmann?

[beevul]

38. I always get a kick out of that one.

"Democrats support the Second Amendment but recognize it has limits"

A limit on governmental exercise of power has limits...

"shall not be infringed" does't seem to have "except when we see fit" or "other than" as qualifiers.

[Kennah]

40. Unlike the Fourth Amendment ...

... the Second Amendment makes no allowances for reasonable infringement.

[Common Sense Party]

39. Limits such as, if you have a gun for any reason besides hunting, you're insane

At least according to SOME Democrats

Or schticky trolls

[obxhead]

6. No, but clearly gun extremism is your core value.

[guardian]

35. Good one! LOL

n/t

[polichick]

7. You mean, do they think the founders meant for every American to...

...own as many assault weapons as they want?

[gejohnston]

16. Yes actually, if you take US v Miller 1939

to its logical conclusion, machine guns and military type rifles are constitutionally protected while Olympic style target pistols are not.

Do you know what assault weapon means?

[PavePusher]

26. And what is wrong with that? n/t

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[murphyj87]

11. Between....

Between the American millionaire, corporation, military monarchy and the Second Amendment all demonstrate that the United States is no better than a Third World Banana Republic.

In a Banana Republic, millionaires, corporations, the military, and yahoos carrying guns are all that count, just like in the United States.

[gejohnston]

18. Actually these Banana Republics

ban private ownership of guns, so the only yahoos are gangsters or sanctioned death squads. In other words, your analogy fails. Your pistols acts were based of fear of immigrants. Your 1977 law was based on Quebec separatists shooting up places. Don't give me this "we are more civilized than thou" shit.

[provis99]

13. well, gun extremism is a gungeon value.

[elocs]

17. Yes, they worship at the altar of the Second Amendment and resent it is not the First. n/t

[petronius]

19. I would think that DUers (and liberals in general) would be eager to support the entire BoR

That's always been my position, anyway... :shrug:

[DWC]

14. Extremism in any form

is not a core value of Dems or Repubs.

unrec for bias in the extreme.

Semper Fi,

[Arctic Dave]

21. I call it "gun idolatry".

To them, guns have magical powers.

[petronius]

23. You've actually met people who think guns have magic powers?

:shrug:

I've never heard of such a thing...

[RSillsbee]

28. You've never hear dof such a thing?

All you have to is read the posts right here about how guns have magic mind control powers that will amke anyone who owns one "snap" and go on a shooting rampage

[ileus]

33. guns are the equivalent to the witches broom to the antis...

[ileus]

24. I voted no because they've also had a hand in limiting our freedoms.

[aikoaiko]

27. Is your head exploding tonight?

These posts are bizarre even for you.

[armueller2001]

29. What do you consider to be

"Gun extremism"?

[jpak]

30. The current state-level GOP/NRA "guns everywhere by everybody all the time" agenda

yup

[armueller2001]

34. I've never in my life

Heard or seen anyone advocate "guns for everyone all the time everywhere"

Can you point to a specific example of this?

[RSillsbee]

31. Gun extremism

is when anyone but Jpak owns a gun

[ileus]

32. I haven't seen any R's or D's running on any gun platform ever.

[SteveM]

36. My .357 still want tell me about its politics!

[ileus]

37. Gun rights should be every republics core concern.

[Kennah]

41. As a former Republicon, let me say the answer is a big Hell No!

For many years, because of the gun issue, I was very confused about my orientation. It is the opinion of some in here that guns are a gateway drug to Republicanism. Not exactly, IMHO.

I think it's more an issue of very vocal and visceral dislike of guns and gunowners, by some on the left, that drives pro gun progressives into the closet wearing Republican drag--like a Maggie Thatcher wig.

I always identified myself as a gunner first, and at the handful of GOP functions I attended I felt very much held out at arms length at best, a pariah at worst. Vast majority of the GOP faithful could not give a shit less about gun rights, and the mere thought of the unwashed massed with guns scares them to death.

Guns are a footnote in the GOP platform, not a core issue.

- Outsourcing of jobs
- Destruction of the middle class
- Transfer of MORE wealth to the top 1 percent
- No taxes
- No regulations
- Government small enough to drown in the bathtub

Those are the core Republican Party values. America The Country Club.

To anyone still damned fool enough to believe that foreign governments and multinational corporations are going to give one fat rat's ass about R2KBA, send me a certified check for $50K as I have about $24 billion that I'm willing to share because of my efforts helping Robert Mueller fight terrorism--or so says about 3 or 4 Emails in my spam folder every month.