Clinton Rejects Latest Michigan Delegate Compromise

[babylonsister]

Clinton Rejects Latest Michigan Delegate Compromise

By Marie Horrigan, CQ Staff

Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday rejected a compromise plan to seat Michigan’s delegates to the national convention that would give 69 delegates to Clinton and 59 to Barack Obama .

“This proposal does not honor the 600,000 votes that were cast in Michigan’s January primary. Those votes must be counted,” Clinton spokesman Isaac Baker said.

The Michigan Democratic Party had approved the plan and intended to submit it to the Democratic National Committee meeting on May 31. Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said in a statement that the plan was a “good step toward a solution that unites Democrats and ensures that our state will not face a McCain presidency.”

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) had stripped Michigan of its delegation to the Democratic National Convention because the state party scheduled its Jan. 15 primary in violation of national party rules. Several plans have been proposed to find a way to seat Michigan’s delegation.

Clinton’s campaign has maintained that the delegation should be allocated according to the vote in the Jan. 15 primary (73/55) but Obama’s campaign had argued the delegation should be split between the two candidates (64/64) because he was not on the ballot. Clinton won that contest with 55 percent of the vote but most of the other major party candidates, including Obama, had removed their names from the ballot because the state violated national party rules.

Since any plan must be approved by all the players — the state and national parties and both candidates -- it is unclear what will happen now.

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Michigan Dems Suggest Compromise Delegate Plan
By Eric Kleefeld - May 8, 2008, 10:13AM

We may be on the verge of a compromise on the Michigan situation -- with the key being that a new solution wouldn't actually change the overall delegate race.

The Michigan state party's executive committee voted to submit a proposal to the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee, to send 69 delegates for Clinton and 59 for Obama.

The +10 margin for Hillary would be a significant cut from her +18 over "Uncommitted" in the state's rogue January primary, would take away any chance of getting at any of the 55 slots for Uncommitted, and would still allow the seating of a full delegation.

Meanwhile, the Wall St. Journal points out that we might soon see a softening of Obama's position on this issue. With the likelihood of his nomination now significantly increased, he is free to approve any plan that would seat delegates but wouldn't swing the nomination over to Hillary.

[MidwestTransplant]

1. Obama agreeing to anything that would give him less than her is charitable since he wasn't even on

ballot.

[babylonsister]

5. Yes; for her to diss the offer leads me to believe she's interested

in controversy, not compromise.

[Buzz Clik]

2. Stunningly predicatable.

She stopped moving the goal posts. She has abandoned the concept of goal posts.

[madfloridian]

3. It's her way or the highway.

She wants them all, or she will continue to use them as a tool.

[babylonsister]

4. Her pettiness is being exposed; I thought the plan was more than fair,

and more than she deserved considering Obama wasn't even on the ballot.

[mod mom]

10. and she pledged not to participate-here in her own words:

Here is what Hillary said about the contest in Michigan on that youtube clip above:

"I personally did not think it made any difference whether my name was on the ballot. You know, It's clear this election they are having is not going to count for anything."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/6/12656/59124/210/490995

[Andy823]

6. Does anyone really wonder

Why she is disliked so much? The rules have to be her way or nothing. This is really getting old! You can honor all those who voted for her, but can not give the same respect to those who "could" not vote for Obama because his name was not on the ballot, and voters were not allowed to write in their own candidate! What kind of crap is this anyway, and how can anyone think she is being fair to "ALL" the voters when she does things like this?

[housewolf]

7. So I guess she can't blame it on Obama anymore...

Grrrrrrr...

I don't get it. How does that dis-honor the votes that were cast?


Hmmmm... I wonder... does the DNC, on May 31st, need her approval in order to agree to something?

[SharonRB]

8. I'm not surprised

No way should they count things based on the sham of a primary we had -- he wasn't on the ballot. If we had a redo, I think he'd actually win, so this compromise is more than fair to her. If they can't reach an agreement, it's going to be her fault. Obama wanted to split them down the middle, but I think he'd agree to this.

Mark Brewer was on with Tweety last night and said he thought they were close. This was what they were working on. Little did he know Hillary would refuse to accept this. I guess we're back to square one.

[babylonsister]

12. Now who's doing the disenfranchising? She's like a spoiled little brat

who's stamping her feet, wants her own way. Gee, who does THAT sound like? That is the scariest thought of all. :scared:

[bowens43]

9. The cheater wants it all....she's despicable.

[Night_Nurse]

11. Hillary, please go home... nt

[dbredes]

13. It's not the merits of the plan...that matters

Hillary wants/needs this controversy to remain unsettled...

Remember she's fighting for the voters in Mich and Fla to have "her"...oops sorry...Their voices to be heard.

She doesn't want ANY compromise...she needs the issue alive..remember she's staying in..until this is resolved...until all those shameless votes she won...are counted...

Meanwhile - the popular vote in caucus states such as Washington - is just plain - NOT INCLUDED...

Why?...Well it's obvious...It was overwhelmingly OBAMA

[BattyDem]

14. Four delegates.

Only four delegates less than what she is "entitled" to from that sham of a primary ... and she says no?

Unfuckingbelievable!

Oh well ... at least she can't blame Obama anymore. The Michigan Democratic party felt that their voters would be fairly represented with that compromise, but she doesn't? So it's her way or the highway? :eyes: We've had 8 years of that shitty attitude and we don't need it anymore.

She doesn't care about the party, she doesn't care about the people - all she cares about is her. I can't believe I ever had any respect for this woman. I can't believe that I once thought she would be a terrific president. I am so sick of the Clintons!

[madaboutharry]

15. There is some very poor

advice being given in that campaign. She is really looking like an ass.

[Aloha Spirit]

31. Yep... this rejection weakens a lot of her arguments. I find myself, once again,

:puke: ing.
Which can only mean that another week has passed in this ridiculous primary.

[skipos]

16. This MI resident says... don't you DARE trick me Hillary!

My party told me my vote wouldn't count towards delegates. We had our faux vote. Don't tell me our vote now goes towards YOUR delegates.

Hillary gets more and more Republican every day.

[Ganja Ninja]

17. Wow! What a fighter!

Too bad she didn't fight for MI & FL before the party decided to ban their delegations. I don't know why the party is even offering her a say in the matter.

[Califooyah Operative]

30. haha

seriously.

[tishapup]

18. lurker can't keep silent any more

Hello, I have been lurking for months now but I can't keep silent any more. Hillary just needs to disappear and let Obama concentrate on beating McCain. She is ruining the Clinton legacy and making a fool out of herself.
There I said it.

[babylonsister]

20. And welcome to DU, tishapup aka lurker!

Speak up! The more the merrier, and FWIW, most people in this thread agree with you! :hi:

[Aloha Spirit]

32. Aww, glad you spoke up!

[Bonn1997]

19. Wow, 19 replies trashing Hillary and...

not one of her supporters has replied defending her.

[babylonsister]

21. Seems pretty indefensible to me. nt

[agingboomer]

22. You Can't defend the indefensible.

There is no way a Clinton supporter can defend this. I heard one of her surrogates the other day saying that the FL and MI delegates should be seated in Clinton's favor because "its the right thing to do." BS. I too used to love and respect the Clintons. I am so sorry to see this happen.

[Bonn1997]

23. What's "nt"?

I feel like a dummy for asking that but I see it all the time and I'm not cool enough to know what it means!

[Sinistrous]

24. "nt" stands for "no text" below the subject line in the post.

It is placed as a courtesy by some posters to tell readers that they do not have open this post because there is nothing else to read.

[Bonn1997]

26. Thanks nt :-)

[OhioChick]

25. K&R

:kick:

[elmerdem]

27. That's it,

I'll pitch in so Obama can kick her ass in a re-vote. I cannot believe her. How on earth can anyone consider her a democrat?

[knitter4democracy]

28. She needs to let go of the primary.

It was a joke. Lowest turnout I've ever seen, and many Dems followed the advice of some of the higher-ups and crossed over to vote for Romney to keep him in the race longer and keep McCain and him spending minor fortunes against each other. It was not a real primary at all, and it needs to be entirely rejected out of hand.

We need to do a caucus. It's not perfect, but it's better than using bad primary results. If we can't, then we need to keep the superdelegates (the ones who got us into this mess with the more-than-willing help of the MI GOP) home and send delegates based on the numbers from the primary (which are bad but at least something).

[chill_wind]

29. Hillary Clinton to the Michigan Democratic Party: "SCREW you!"

the gracious wind-down continues.