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bhal123 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:05 AM
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Hillary is the ultimate hypocrite.
"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-05-07-clintoninterview_N.htm

How does she get away with this garbage? She is the ultimate hypocrite, going on about how the Obama campaign is playing the race card and how it's so difficult for her because of discrimination toward women. What if Obama said "Sen. Clinton's support among working, hard-working Americans, AMERICAN MEN, is weakening again, and how MEN in both states were supporting me." Her campaign would be apoplectic about what a sexist comment it was and how he must apologize and renounce & retract and denounce & disown.

Is this what kind of President she would be? She would talk about being different but in the end just do things just like Bush? That's the message I'm getting.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:12 AM
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1. So, how does repeating polling facts make her a hypocrite?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:14 AM
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2. Polling facts don't include whether a person is "hard-working" or not...
that's how.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:16 AM
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3. ?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:19 AM
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6. She implies that hard-working Americans are white Americans...
or that's what it sounds like. That would be race-baiting in most people's books, IMO.
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bhal123 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:24 AM
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7. Hard Working
Yes, thanks because I left that out. At the very best that is just a careless mistake in wording her point. But that would be insensitive of her anyway. To imply that only white's are hardworking by accident is not the kind of thing I want my President doing. Just another thing that reminds me of Bush. But her ability to stick to the message tells me that she said exactly what she wanted to. And that is just another example of her being willing to do anything it takes, which is ethically reprehensible in my book and causing damage to the likely Democratic nominee.
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bhal123 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:17 AM
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4. She's a hypocrite because
she accuses the Obama campaign of playing the race card but somehow it's OK for her to bring up race. And it's OK because "These are the people you have to win if you're a Democrat in sufficient numbers to actually win the election. Everybody knows that." These people are the white voters. So I restate my question to you: How would she and her campaign react if Obama came out and said that he is the better general election candidate because he is favored among men?
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Hidey Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:17 AM
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5. Someone told me yesterday..
That Obama supporters are (somehow) misogynist's. But they're hidden, like closet or "crypto" misogynist's She apparently never considered that it works both ways, I mean.. With standards like that, couldn't Clinton supporters be called closet racists?

I am so tired of all this dividing and sub-dividing along this line and that line, here and there. It's only going to come back and hurt the Party in November.

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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:25 AM
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8. wrong forum
this crap needs to be in the sewer at GD-P.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:16 PM
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12. Yup
Besides, the title "ultimate hypocrite" has to refer to a Repig, not a Democrat.
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bhal123 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:25 PM
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13. Sorry if I chose the wrong forum, I'm not a frequent poster.
Is there a way to have it moved?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:21 PM
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14. I guess you could alert
At the bottom left of your original post is a link to alert a moderator. You could click on that and ask the moderator to move it to General Discussion: Primaries.
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bhal123 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:56 AM
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15. Sent a note on Thursday requesting the change.
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Hidey Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:31 AM
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9. PS:
    ..going on about how the Obama campaign is playing the race card and how it's so difficult for her because of discrimination toward women.


Since you mentioned discrimination, I've often privately wondered if Pelosi's cop out, roll over and play dead routine has soured some voters on women in positions of authority?

I mean, a Congress was fired and the GOP was handed their heads, seemingly for nothing because the first thing she did was take the most effective weapon in the congressional arsenal "off the table"

I know it was a terrible disappointment for me, and I have to wonder if it has soured others towards women leaders and, perhaps, is affecting Hillary's performance?

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bhal123 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:38 AM
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10. Pelosi
Personally I don't think that much of Pelosi but I defended her against attacks from others when she became speaker. She had the opportunity and unfortunately also the responsibility to show what a woman in power could do. I guess that she has shown that a woman in a position of power is likely to do more or less the same as a man in power and that is good fodder to use to argue for equal opportunity. But, again unfortunately, when working against ingrained biases the standard seems to be that one needs to excel, to show the doubters that the opportunity was deserved. And Pelosi has failed the progressive agenda that put her in charge so in the end I think there is some validity to what you are suggesting.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:54 AM
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11. The Clinton campaign and the media seem to be
trying to strong-arm the Obama team to choose her as his running mate and/or pay off her bills. This is OUTRAGEOUS!!! First, she says that he's not qualified to be president and that she has more experience. But she ran her campaign into the ground, squandering millions of dollars, and is now positioning herself as his running mate! Then, she, her husband and their surrogates make subtle references to race to divide the party. But when caught, they charge that it was actually the Obama camp that played the race card, repeating the lie so much so that Hillary supporters are on this forum agreeing with it. Then, she claims that Obama's wins were unimportant because they were "small," "caucus" states, where coincidentially many of those "hard-working, white" voters are. (Ironically in order to have any chance at doing better, she now has to rely on small states like WV and KY. Are they unimportant, too, Senator Clinton?)

This woman is trecherous! She is disgusting! She is despicable!! A racist and a panderer!!!

I am beginning to hate her just as much, if not more, than the Republicans hate her and Bill.

Their behavior during this entire campaign has been unbelievably destructive. And if her supporters refuse to see what the Clintons are doing to the party, then they are just as disgusting!!!
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