Some Top Hillary Hands Concluding She Can't Win Nomination Without Popular Vote

[babylonsister]

Some Top Hillary Hands Concluding She Can't Win Nomination Without Popular Vote
By Greg Sargent - April 3, 2008, 4:08PM


As the race heads into the fourth quarter, top Hillary advisers and supporters are wrestling with a big question:

Is it really politically feasible for her to continue to try to woo super-delegates in the event of a loss in both the pledged delegate count and the popular vote?

Some Hillary advisers and supporters now appear to be concluding that the answer is No. Without a popular vote victory to offset Obama's expected victory among pledged delegates, they say, it will be difficult indeed to make a case to super-dels that they should support her.

One Hillary adviser confirmed to me that he believes that if she falls short in the popular vote, it will become very tough to continue making the case to super-delegates that they should decide their choice based on electability alone, though this adviser said that an unexpectedly big string of victories could conceivably shift the dynamic somewhat.

Says another adviser: "It's much harder to make the case to super delegates without the popular vote. You have to give the super-delegates something to work with. You have to give them political cover to support her in opposition to what the pledged delegates represent."

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[tekisui]

1. It's true. It's always been true.

[monmouth]

2. John Murtha sounds as if he has buyer's remorse. Said she can't

win without the popular vote. What was he thinking anyway??

[aquart]

4. He was thinking she was the better choice.

We don't always get the better choice.

Not getting the popular vote is why it's vital for Obama to get her out of the race before Pennsylvania. Just in case people who actually vote go for her.

Fortunately, he's been successful in preventing two populous states from having any voice at all, since their voice went for Hillary.

As for the rest, lots of people want to go with the popular kid so he'll do fine with the lemming vote.

The superdelegates have said they will not circumvent the will of the people which, of course, makes them superfluous and pointless, but at least they get to go to the party. The TROUBLE might come if the popular vote is a toss up. That, I assume, is Obama's biggest fear, that the Democrats are still split fifty-fifty at convention time. In which case....superdelegates will have a nasty time trying to justify themselves either way.

That's why all the pressure on Hillary to bow out, like a good little girl, and leave things to the men.

[Vincardog]

3. The Hillbots were the only ones believing her "elect ability" anyway. Where were the polls when

Edwards was still running? They had him consistently more electable than either HRC or GOBAMA

[aquart]

5. "Hillbots"? Sexism is good. Racism is bad in the Obamaland.

Denigrating the supporters of the first viable woman candidate for President of the United States is simply the best, most intelligent strategy and certainly says so much about you and your candidate.

[Vincardog]

6. What does it say about Kucinich? Project much?

[eagertolearn]

7. I totally agree and I am a Obama supporter...

I just heard a similar term used on CNN and I couldn't believe it. I apologize to the Hillary Clinton supporters for all this playground talk. I was equally as impressed to meet all the other Obama supporters at the Portland Rally as I was to see Obama. I would not think that these people would be the ones making these terrible put down comments. Are we sure that we don't have republican plants still spread out on DU to split us up? Thats what it would seem!

[DemocratInSoCal]

8. Does Anybody Know What The Popular Vote Breakdown Currently Is?

Also, if known, the #'s from Florida & Michigan, even though they aren't counting.

Is it still feasible that Hillary can narrow the gap, beginning with PA?