Democratic Primaries

louis c

(8,652 posts) Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:41 AM Apr 2019

Biden continues to hold solid lead in every poll, everywhere: post accusations [View all]

It turns out a lot of Democrats think as I do. I want the candidate that has the best chance to beat Trump. Some here at DU may disagree with me, and I admit, that polls may change. But until they do, the most pragmatic and logical choice, from an Electoral College perspective, is Joe Biden.

Following those accusations from a group of women who were "uncomfortable" by Biden's non-sexual, single encounter, his numbers everywhere have either held steady or improved. I believe the accusers. They had a single encounter with the Vice-President of the United States and felt uncomfortable by his interaction. The other 10,000 people that Biden has encountered during his years of campaigning were fine with his actions. I believe them, too.

Apparently, about a week or so after Lucy Flores, the Sanders' supporting losing Democratic candidate for Lt. Gov. in Nevada revealed her "discomfort" with Biden for his non-sexual contact, no one really gives a shit. All we want is the strongest Democratic candidate to beat Trump.

Link to every latest poll:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden continues to hold solid lead in every poll, everywhere: post accusations [View all] louis c Apr 2019 OP

Biden will be the nominee BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #1

Biden-Harris: Dream Ticket louis c Apr 2019 #2

I'd support that DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #21

I'm on board with that! Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #80

YES!!!! Lisa0825 Apr 2019 #181

In your dreams all right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #153

Washington Post-'Electability' and 'Bernie' don't belong in the same sentence Gothmog Apr 2019 #189

You're now taking political advice from Jennifer Rubin?! Oh okay!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #191

Read the polling cited in that article Gothmog Apr 2019 #205

A significant portion of sanders support were really non-democrats who will not be back Gothmog Apr 2019 #222

I really like that ticket also Gothmog Apr 2019 #187

Biden polls numbers historically go down once he announces and starts campaigning, while... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #33

I assume this is why Biden hasn't declared yet. shanny Apr 2019 #49

Exactly right! Biden has to know he can't win, but I would never say he shouldn't run for a 3rd time InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #52

Not a good comparison. John Fante Apr 2019 #77

He is running as a VP really a Obama third term. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #108

He was VP for 8 years good luck with old shit. Not Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #83

lol shanny Apr 2019 #95

Haha, the old "old shit" defense...I'll remember that next time they bring up old shit about Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #101

+1 shanny Apr 2019 #103

What revolution? It doesn't exist. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #109

Do explain how what were "radical leftist" ideas a mere 2 years ago shanny Apr 2019 #139

That is a myth. Democrats have advocated those ideas for years. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #141

bwahahahahahahahahahaha shanny Apr 2019 #148

He who laughs last laughs best. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #154

Stone age ... and Biden's record on women is stellar ...Bye bye Bernie Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #107

I agree: Biden is Stone age shanny Apr 2019 #137

Bernie is older. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #142

WTF does Bernie have to do with this? shanny Apr 2019 #147

Just saying... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #156

just saying nothing shanny Apr 2019 #161

I have seen posts supporting Sanders Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #165

so what? shanny Apr 2019 #175

I was curious how since Sanders is older than Biden and Bidens age was the issue how Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #179

Show me where I ever said Biden's AGE was the issue. shanny Apr 2019 #185

... and wiser! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #162

No I don't tho think so. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #164

I agree. He always was. shanny Apr 2019 #177

How some peeps don't see this is beyond me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #178

Bernie running behind Biden in New Hampshire... louis c Apr 2019 #220

Wise but still older than Biden? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #180

Whatabout Bernie? Really? shanny Apr 2019 #199

After Trump True Blue American Apr 2019 #128

Obama's third term ...finally. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #143

aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #59

In your dreams. He is great on the campaign trail and he will be campaigning Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #82

Read up on your campaign history... not that it matters. Voters will decide... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #86

Running for the third Obama term as a FORMER VP. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #110

There are no bad feelings. Bernie brought in TONS of new, energized voters to the Democratic Party. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #113

Are you kidding? We lost and many including me don't think he helped enough Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #117

Bernie didn't help enough? Yeah riiiiigght... he campaigned for Hillary night and day... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #118

Do you really believe there are no hard feelings? We lost and he now has people who Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #121

No, I'm sayin there SHOULDN'T be hard feelins, just like there shouldn't have been any against Obama InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #125

Hillary worked her heart out for Obama, and Bill did also. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #149

No, I'm telling you how you SHOULDN'T feel... it only hurts your own self-interests. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #151

I don't consider supporting Sen Sanders to be in my best interest. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #157

You should-Joe was a great VP by adoptin Obama's agenda, which was more like Bernie's than Joe's own InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #160

Obama's agenda is nothing like Sen. Sanders. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #166

I don't agree with that. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #167

Of course not... it's Bernie we're talking about. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #168

People are allowed to feel differently than you about Sanders. This Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #170

Never said otherwise... you have every right to be wrong about Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #173

So do you. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #174

Bernie brought a TON of voters to Trump after losing the Dem primary as well. awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #146

Yes..true. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #150

I don't know why that is so easily dismissed... themaguffin Apr 2019 #120

I agree. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #123

Still amazing to me how much support Bernie has lost, everywhere. Gothmog Apr 2019 #208

And Sanders historically loses every Presidential Primary he enters. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #88

Polls show Bernie Sanders' popularity among all voters is plummeting Gothmog Apr 2019 #206

He's been bleeding support since Clinton cinched the nomination. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #214

I expect Pete Buttigieg to surpass Bernie. Blue_true Apr 2019 #91

You underestimate Bernie at your own peril. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #133

... BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #152

We're see. That is the great thing about primaries. Blue_true Apr 2019 #183

Damn! BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #131

No way in hell nini Apr 2019 #203

It's over already? Must have missed when the voting started. BlueStater Apr 2019 #201

Trump FEARS Biden because Biden can hit back with a smile..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #3

Biden should taunt him with the size of his huge hands... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #36

K&R EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #4

If it were a single encounter, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #5

Nobody is denying the pattern. What people are saying is that "being uncomfortable" doesn't LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #6

But what does that "being uncomfortable" mean? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #7

It means that they were uncomfortable; such things happen. And, don't lie; Biden acknowledges LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #9

People feel "uncomforable" about all kinds of things everyday... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #18

Just imagine SAYING you felt uncomfortable when someone Hortensis Apr 2019 #122

Especially if the hugger (or kisser, or thigh-toucher) is higher status than you. Demit Apr 2019 #194

We all do that last constantly, tho, Demet. Hortensis Apr 2019 #196

I'm confused. I thought I was agreeing with you. Demit Apr 2019 #200

I think we agree where we're talking about Hortensis Apr 2019 #204

The "brief" part of the hug or other kind of touch is an important distinction. Demit Apr 2019 #218

A big fat nothing, politically motivated attack. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #111

Ya, the pattern is for every 10,000 people Biden encounters in a single instance... louis c Apr 2019 #10

It's still too early in the game to make such pronouncements. athena Apr 2019 #13

That is a huge generalization on DU. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #19

The polling has been consistent thus far.. Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #23

DU also isn't very representative of the United States Democratic party bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #29

I'm a female Green Line Apr 2019 #58

Good for you. athena Apr 2019 #69

I hear ya! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #163

Sorry to break the news to you... louis c Apr 2019 #74

Polling is clear. The politically motivated accusations against Biden didn't Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #92

Were you here during the 2016 primaries? athena Apr 2019 #184

I can't follow your logic at all... louis c Apr 2019 #209

I am motivatedv by winning. I don't see a woman winning the presidency. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #210

Why would you make such an inane pronouncement? OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #87

In most cases, the gender is either stated or obvious. athena Apr 2019 #171

Huh? True Blue American Apr 2019 #130

Sure. Gender doesn't matter at all. athena Apr 2019 #136

Making gender True Blue American Apr 2019 #138

Who said it's all? athena Apr 2019 #145

I'm beginning to think you may be right, in which case I would happily reverse the order of InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #132

The voters are way too smart for that? He hasn't even declared yet, much less faced an election. Demit Apr 2019 #35

He was VP for eight years...running for a third Obama term. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #112

I look forward to how he campaigns. Demit Apr 2019 #119

It is diferent.He ran twice with Obama. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #124

As the sidekick. He's running for himself now. Demit Apr 2019 #127

Not true...Biden delivered in all ways for Obama. He was hands on in the campaign Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #159

I doubt people will vote for Biden because he was "hands on" in Obama's presidential campaign. Demit Apr 2019 #186

People care about winning. and all the old shit isn't going to matter...trying to pretend he wasn't Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #193

The "old shit" is still harming people. Families and students in debt... It's going to come up. Demit Apr 2019 #197

Joe has a history... people will see that when he jumps in the race and he's properly vetted. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #172

Bernie has a history also. We shall see. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #211

Sure could. But politically motivated attacks don't work clearly. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #144

lol BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #24

Abou what? Total bullshit. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #84

Biden is a very good man and he connects with people. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #8

Take women for granted at your peril. athena Apr 2019 #11

Just remember white women voted for Trump. Agschmid Apr 2019 #12

Yes. White Republican women. athena Apr 2019 #15

That's a pretty sad threat; women stand to lose far more as a group if Trump is reelected LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #20

Isn't that the truth? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #25

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2019 #46

"Since most men are Republican" TwilightZone Apr 2019 #39

I am a white woman Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #54

This is actually a really good point. A common argument I've seen on Facebook for why they did LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #16

More White Women went for Trump than Hillary.... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #40

I'd love to see them turn on him... Agschmid Apr 2019 #47

Polls show women continue to support Biden... louis c Apr 2019 #17

It's not enough to vote. The winner needs women to campaign enthusiastically. athena Apr 2019 #26

Thats my problem with focusing on these moderate... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #34

Exactly. athena Apr 2019 #38

Then again it's a no-lose situation... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #42

There is no way a perennial Democrat can lose BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #60

So the coveted "White Working Class Voters".... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #70

Translation BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #71

Are you referring to the White Working Class Voters? doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #72

There are moderate Democrats you know, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #114

Hey may very well be... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #135

Yes, the idea of getting rid of Trump will excite voters. And Biden can take the Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #140

You don't speak for all Democratic women. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #44

At least I am a woman. athena Apr 2019 #48

Thank you. shanny Apr 2019 #50

They didn't tell you to shut up, and that's a pretty big chip on your shoulder LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #53

No one told you to shut up. Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #55

I must have missed the part where any of that was said. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #56

If you look at what I've posted about Biden elsewhere on DU, athena Apr 2019 #63

I'll see if I can press on. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #64

The only one making "baseless attacks" is you. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #68

And Biden is not one of those men...political hit job. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #115

You may be a woman BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #61

I have a right to my opinion about how women will vote. athena Apr 2019 #65

So -- it is just a biased speculation on your part BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #66

You said it!! When is the man-splainin ever gonna stop?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #79

The partisans for one candidate still believe BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #28

But it backfired...saw a poll where Biden leads in New Hampshire. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #85

yep BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #89

You can only speak for yourself. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #27

Sorry but the polling says otherwise BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #43

What is disqualifying? athena Apr 2019 #45

Nobody is dismissing anyone's concerns. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #57

Please get over it BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #62

Thanks for this demonstration of civility! athena Apr 2019 #67

Also probably more enjoyable for those terrified of having their beliefs challenged. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #73

Oh snap! Tipperary Apr 2019 #106

+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #126

I am a woman and I will. I would hope that getting fascist Trump out of office Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #93

You're making a lot of sense... maybe should switch to Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #134

I am a woman and support Biden. I don't like politically motivated attacks. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #212

Nice touch here... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #14

Remember when Princess Di used to ... LakeArenal Apr 2019 #22

K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #30

These polls are just about name recognition at this point. Bleacher Creature Apr 2019 #31

I agree. Biden is doing as much of a slow roll of declaring his candidacy as Bernie is with Demit Apr 2019 #37

It looks fine to me. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #94

It's not the same.. Cha Apr 2019 #96

And I read that he won't declare until he has enough donor backing. Demit Apr 2019 #100

Biden- Beto awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #32

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #51

2020 roundup: Biden leads Harris in California Baclava Apr 2019 #75

Biden will be the nominee EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #76

Yes. Joe Biden will be. democratisphere Apr 2019 #78

I like your enthusiasm, Eve! Cha Apr 2019 #97

Not bad for someone who hasn't even declared, eh? MineralMan Apr 2019 #81

I guess the hit job did not work. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #90

I like Joe Biden a lot, but I won't support him in the primary Martin Eden Apr 2019 #98

1) Why the ageism? 2) Agree 100% that Joe's vote for the IWR is a disqualifier InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #105

Come on. That simply isn't true. Sanders is not up in New Hampshire. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #116

I don't think it's discriminatory "ageism" Martin Eden Apr 2019 #190

It should depend on the INDIVIDUAL... Joe appears to be in excellent shape & have quite the stamina InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #198

He's not 80. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #104

The fact is Joe would turn 80 about two thirds into his first term. Martin Eden Apr 2019 #192

He's not 80 now, though. That's the point. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #215

That's your point Martin Eden Apr 2019 #216

I'm not an ageist so you'd probably have to ask someone else what their cutoff is. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #217

I'll be happy to vote for Joe if he is the nominee for the party. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #99

No wonder some supporters of "other" campaigns don't want Joe in the race still_one Apr 2019 #129

They made that clear with the Flores attack. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #155

Biden promises a return to "normal" for the majority of American voters randr Apr 2019 #158

He is not a senator from Delaware anymore. His last job was VP. Also, one of the reasons Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #169

Joe Biden is no pushover. He has been around the block many times..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #176

So instead of allegations, why not call it greymattermom Apr 2019 #182

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Apr 2019 #188

k&r Skidmore Apr 2019 #195

Be prepared for a 3rd party candidate , that is all Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #202

Still amazing to me how much support Bernie has lost, everywhere. Gothmog Apr 2019 #207

I Agree. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #213

sanders will lose the #neverhillary types who were never democrats Gothmog Apr 2019 #221

The map makes me hopeful. The Sanders strategy is clear ...drive out those Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #223

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Apr 2019 #219