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Sloumeau

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44. Bernie Sanders both did things to help Hillary Clinton...

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:05 PM

Dec 2019

...and to hurt her. His waiting so long to back her definitely hurt her, and Hillary Clinton said so. After waiting so long, and probably after noticing how pissed off so many Democrats were getting about how Bernie Sanders was not helping Hillary, Bernie finally got around to backing her. Hillary thanked Bernie for the help he eventually gave her. That does not mean that he did not hurt her before he helped her.

Hillary Clinton backed Obama very soon after it was totally clear that Obama was going to win. It was because of class acts like that that so many backed her in 2016. More people voted for Hillary than Bernie in the 2016 Primary, and a whole lot of us remember how he dragged his feet in backing her. In my mind, it is the main reason why I believe that Bernie Sanders will not win the 2020 Democratic Primary--because the majority of us who voted for Hillary remember how he dragged his feet and how it hurt her. We remember it very, very well. The letter that you posted will not change that. If Bernie somehow manages to win the nomination, we who supported Hillary will vote for him. We will not do what many Bernie voters did and vote for some third-party candidate or Donald Trump. We are fiercely loyal to our party, and because of that, we will show the respect to Senator Bernie Sanders that neither Senator Bernie Sanders nor some of his fans showed to Hillary Clinton.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Hillary Clinton's letter to Bernie thanking him for his help in 2016. [View all] HerbChestnut Dec 2019 OP

Oh, not that old chestnut again LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #1

Lol, some chestnuts should be roasted, well roasted. nt BootinUp Dec 2019 #2

Look, I'm not happy that this needs to be posted. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #3

Someone who voted for Jill Stein tweets that? OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #13

Briahna Joy Gray didn't write Hillary Clinton's letter. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #14

LOGIC redqueen Dec 2019 #16

Attack the source when they have absolutely zero argument and the source has no bearing anyway. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #20

Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #51

this right here booley Dec 2019 #76

Joy Reid? OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #21

Oops! Got the names confused, will edit. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #24

Exactly still_one Dec 2019 #52

But she DID cut the date off. Twenty two days before the election was October 17. George II Dec 2019 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #41

That one letter is being used to misrepresent what actually happened. Why did he disappear.... George II Dec 2019 #22

I don't know. You'd have to ask Bernie and Hillary. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #35

It was one final opportunity to show TRUE COURAGE AND LEADERSHIP. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #39

Bernie had a book to write and money to collect. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #49

Puhleeze. ChiTownDenny Dec 2019 #4

It's not Bernie who is desperate its those posting daily devotionals. grantcart Dec 2019 #64

Perfect! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #82

What was the date on the letter?... SidDithers Dec 2019 #5

Thank you. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #11

+1 TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #50

+2 The Valley Below Dec 2019 #53

It was conveniently cut off, hoping that most people who read the tweet didn't notice that... George II Dec 2019 #54

Yep. calimary Dec 2019 #71

Thank you for the facts Gothmog Dec 2019 #87

Yup. ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #91

Bernie and his supporters are deliberately misrepresenting her comments. StevieM Dec 2019 #6

Exactly... SidDithers Dec 2019 #7

It's almost 2020 evertonfc Dec 2019 #8

Agree, completely. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #12

Thank you. This is all being drug back up again because Stern's question was SO IMPORTANT redqueen Dec 2019 #17

You give a rat's ass? You do. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #57

And, yet, here you are perpetuating it. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #60

The irony is not lost on me. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #61

Bernie is running again treestar Dec 2019 #31

Those who wish to "move on" are free to do so. Others may want oasis Dec 2019 #43

Because Hillary will always be that classy. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #9

Exactly. This is just evidence that Clinton sought Party unity by not dissing her "Democrat" rival. Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #78

Joy says Bernie wants the same support? OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #10

Sounds fair. Take a month off, make a few half-hearted appearances in Sept and Oct, and then.... George II Dec 2019 #72

Indeed. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #77

BAM! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #15

I saw that on twitter a couple of days ago. Why did she cut off the date? George II Dec 2019 #18

They appeared on stage together for the first time on July 12th, before the convention. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #23

Right, less than two weeks before the Convention opened, and a full MONTH after the last primary. George II Dec 2019 #25

Must be tiring moving those goalposts all the time. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #26

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? George II Dec 2019 #28

Bazinga! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #29

Thank you for injecting some realism ... not that some will see it for the opposite. But that's KPN Dec 2019 #19

To be fair I have just one question for you. Wawannabe Dec 2019 #30

Yes, I am a U.S. citizen. Seriously? HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #32

Thank you for the reply Wawannabe Dec 2019 #38

WTF does that have to do with anything?...nt SidDithers Dec 2019 #33

I explained in my ask. Wawannabe Dec 2019 #37

Apparently sending thank you letters is something Hillary did quite often: George II Dec 2019 #47

I think it has some relevance TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #55

People outside the U.S. are allowed to post here. Talk about stirring the pot. seaglass Dec 2019 #40

I didn't say outside the US Wawannabe Dec 2019 #42

It doesn't matter non US Citizens are allowed to post here. Lots of people stir the pot. seaglass Dec 2019 #45

I disagree. nt Wawannabe Dec 2019 #48

Yes, people outside of the U.S. are allowed to post on DU. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #59

Well, I watched his supporters try to destroy the first days of our convention. I do not recall helpisontheway Dec 2019 #34

putting aside Sanders himself moved to have Clinton announced the nominee booley Dec 2019 #79

I'm honestly surprised this side hasn't been brought up before. redqueen Dec 2019 #89

Lol. Hillary is gracious. BrieBrie is high if she thinks Hillary voters forgot what happened. seaglass Dec 2019 #36

Bernie Sanders both did things to help Hillary Clinton... Sloumeau Dec 2019 #44

Well, this for sure was a great post! n/t seaglass Dec 2019 #46

Great post. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #56

+1 Docreed2003 Dec 2019 #62

Bernie endorsed Hillary before the convention. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #63

Here's what people need to keep in mind about the 2008 Presidential Primary Sloumeau Dec 2019 #67

That is a good article and explanation. Thank you for that. I enjoyed reading. Lexee Dec 2019 #75

Thank you very much. You are very welcome, and Klobuchar rocks. :) Sloumeau Dec 2019 #80

Yes she does. Lexee Dec 2019 #81

Where's the corresponding letter from Senator Sanders to Secretary Clinton? OilemFirchen Dec 2019 #58

Wait, what? She campaigned for him? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #66

Weak. OilemFirchen Dec 2019 #88

You or I have no idea what communications took place Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #90

That's obviously untrue. OilemFirchen Dec 2019 #92

I was there. I saw what happened. Lexee Dec 2019 #65

we saw what happened. don't mansplain to me. EveHammond13 Dec 2019 #68

These are inconvenient truths that smash a bullshit narrative. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #69

But Sanders is responding to a narrative that was never delivered. StevieM Dec 2019 #70

It's a letter sent to him on October 17 for a few appearances. Hillary Clinton is classy enough.... George II Dec 2019 #73

I am going to share with you a bit of unasked for advice... Peacetrain Dec 2019 #74

Not sure what you're referring to. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #85

This is a tweet from the feed of a 2016 Jill Stein voter. lapucelle Dec 2019 #83

Hillary wrote the letter, not Briahna. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #84

A Jill Stein voter wrote the tweet using a letter to spin a storyline. lapucelle Dec 2019 #86