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38. OK Thanks for explaining
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:25 PM
Mar 2019

the double standard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Well, best of luck because she's seriously going to need it. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #1
You got that right montanacowboy Mar 2019 #3
Why isn't Senator Harris's call for Senator Franken's resignation equally disqualifying? SFnomad Mar 2019 #17
It is to some of us. Corey Booker, Warren, Sanders LakeArenal Mar 2019 #80
Some people have integrity in their convictions. SFnomad Mar 2019 #82
As you see, it's not me. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #84
+1 n/t SFnomad Mar 2019 #85
Harris will make a much better president than wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #87
Senator Harris called for Senator Franken's resignation just like Senator Gillibrand SFnomad Mar 2019 #88
Did you read I said all Senators. wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #97
I agree JonLP24 Mar 2019 #143
I didn't like her call for resignation either, but that's a straw man argument in this thread. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #94
That's the best you can come up with? SFnomad Mar 2019 #99
They were not spear heading the effort...she was. nt Baltimike Mar 2019 #100
Steaming pile of a justification n/t SFnomad Mar 2019 #101
Driving the band wagon of Roger Stone's sucker bet. nt Baltimike Mar 2019 #102
Roger Stone? Really? SFnomad Mar 2019 #103
Yes. The first accuser was a Roger Stone associate. I'm not making this up. nt Baltimike Mar 2019 #116
And you realize that Senator Franken apologized to her too ... right? SFnomad Mar 2019 #117
So? Baltimike Mar 2019 #118
Wow, just wow SFnomad Mar 2019 #119
Absolutely. Wow indeed. Baltimike Mar 2019 #120
This is true. He helped engineer it with a conservative gal calimary Mar 2019 #121
Mind you - this in NO way means I feel the same way about the #metoo movement. calimary Mar 2019 #125
This. 5000%. nt Baltimike Mar 2019 #139
It's over before it starts for her. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #47
She is near the bottom of my list Gothmog Mar 2019 #89
I agree totally duforsure Mar 2019 #90
...and I stand by my complete dismissal of her candidacy. (eom) Loge23 Mar 2019 #2
After Gym Jordan's stunt and still in the Senate/House, and rump, fair is fair, and IMHO, ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #4
What I don't understand is why Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #5
She started it, she owns it! Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #7
Started it? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #8
Agreed. madville Mar 2019 #13
There's always somebody who calls the play. Demit Mar 2019 #29
Yes customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #79
Senator Gillibrand... tonedevil Mar 2019 #10
Won the contest? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #11
You point out... tonedevil Mar 2019 #15
Glad she is doubling down, will just hurt her more! Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #6
She was so eager to do it Bettie Mar 2019 #53
"Eight credible" my ass. BlueStater Mar 2019 #9
Really? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #12
About half of them were anonymous. One said he "groped" her waist. BlueStater Mar 2019 #14
OK but Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #16
Do you have any evidence they're telling the truth? BlueStater Mar 2019 #18
I have no reason to assume Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #19
I already gave you my answer. BlueStater Mar 2019 #20
So you discredit Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #22
Nice strawman. BlueStater Mar 2019 #23
Not a strawman Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #24
And the accused deserve to be believed too. BlueStater Mar 2019 #25
So I guess we owe Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #27
We have every right to form opinions on the credibility of both the accused and the accusers based BlueStater Mar 2019 #31
OK Thanks for explaining Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #38
You're welcome. BlueStater Mar 2019 #39
What do you expect for a Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #40
You talking about your recent additions to this thread? BlueStater Mar 2019 #41
Why not? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #45
I already gave you my reasons several times. I'm not answering this again. BlueStater Mar 2019 #48
Because I have no reason to think they are not Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #60
Just throw out the presumption of innocence when it applies to men. MicaelS Mar 2019 #35
The presumption of innocence applies to criminal prosecution Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #37
Why doesn't the picture being on her FB page call into question rainin Mar 2019 #152
Who'd FB page? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #155
I will support the Democratic nominee Gothmog Mar 2019 #21
i would expect no less. it would look weak otherwise Kurt V. Mar 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Huffleprecious Mar 2019 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueStater Mar 2019 #30
*Alleged* sexual abuser. BlueStater Mar 2019 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Huffleprecious Mar 2019 #56
An unfunny, tasteless joke from his days as a comedian doesn't make him a sexual abuser. BlueStater Mar 2019 #61
Oh for the love of mike, you're bringing up that old canard? MrsMatt Mar 2019 #65
If it was sexism, the other female senators who signed on to ousting him would be getting attacked Demit Mar 2019 #33
That political opportunism for you. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #81
Al Franken 2020 ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #34
I'll be more than happy when Polly Hennessey Mar 2019 #36
She is an opportunist Bettie Mar 2019 #42
How is that opportunistic? cynatnite Mar 2019 #44
She's got no way to back down without looking bad Bettie Mar 2019 #52
Charisma isn't on my list of qualifications for president... cynatnite Mar 2019 #55
I respect that... cynatnite Mar 2019 #43
You can stand up to sexual assault without being idiotic about it. BlueStater Mar 2019 #49
Franken chose to leave before the investigation was completed.... cynatnite Mar 2019 #50
His response doesn't change the awful precedent she tried to set. BlueStater Mar 2019 #59
And he could have fought back which he chose not to do... cynatnite Mar 2019 #62
If you work in a place... tonedevil Mar 2019 #71
Then demand due process shortly after LakeArenal Mar 2019 #83
I really hope it costs her the nomination. n/t MicaelS Mar 2019 #114
She also stands by her call to imprison for free speech that Hortensis Mar 2019 #46
Well, no that's not true... cynatnite Mar 2019 #51
Facts just get in the way of Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #86
My question is why was there no investigation? sakabatou Mar 2019 #54
Franken could have stayed. bernie59 Mar 2019 #57
And I stand by my call to eliminate her from the primary race SOON. elfin Mar 2019 #58
Franken is why we have the Mueller investigations SHRED Mar 2019 #63
Sorry that is just not true Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #64
Which part? SHRED Mar 2019 #66
About the Mueller investigation Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #67
I don't think Sessions would have appointed him SHRED Mar 2019 #68
Maybe not Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #70
I thought Franken caught Sessions in the Russian contact lie? SHRED Mar 2019 #108
Yes and no Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #111
I think firing James Comey jump started Mueller's involvement JonLP24 Mar 2019 #144
I admire her self-confidence and moral certainty. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #69
Forget her. She has zero chance in this primary race. MineralMan Mar 2019 #72
Perhaps so...but not because of outrage over Franken. brooklynite Mar 2019 #75
Randi Rhodes worked at Air America for yrs with Al womanofthehills Mar 2019 #73
Randi Rhodes is the last person I'd use as a character reference after she called Geraldine Ferraro SFnomad Mar 2019 #141
She out of ANYONE had to do this. And she did after the 8th woman came out. HYPOCRITE if she didnt UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #74
Why let facts Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #93
"Gillibrand Stands By Her Call" ... so I'll stand by mine Jarqui Mar 2019 #76
And I stand by my decision Mme. Defarge Mar 2019 #77
I find it interesting how she's focused on in particular on this issue. David__77 Mar 2019 #78
She's probably getting private polling that (aside from anything else) it's a millstone around her OnDoutside Mar 2019 #91
So the others were all just blind followers? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #92
Unfortunately a number of them marked her with a view to 2020, when the line was holding up to that OnDoutside Mar 2019 #95
Holding the line? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #96
The notion of holding the line while, y'know, Due Process, takes its course. Apologies if that's an OnDoutside Mar 2019 #98
Due process is a legal standard Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #110
Not exclusively, no. If you are the member of a club, Congress etc, you agree to follow the rules of OnDoutside Mar 2019 #112
And do you really think the republicans Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #113
To be fair they were willing to give him a hearing ! Which is OnDoutside Mar 2019 #122
Maybe they wanted to give him a hearing Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #124
Unlikely, because it could be the turn of many of them at another OnDoutside Mar 2019 #126
Which is still a political body Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #127
Well remind me who rounded on him, led by your friend ? This was headed to the Ethics Committee OnDoutside Mar 2019 #128
Until over 35 Democratic Senators called for his resignation Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #130
Yes when your friend jumped the gun for her own reasons, other Dems didn't want to be seen to be. OnDoutside Mar 2019 #133
So over 30 Democratic Senators were all just blind followers? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #134
What evidence do you have that the Senate Ethics committee wouldn't have treated him OnDoutside Mar 2019 #135
So Republicans would have been more fair to Franken than Democrats? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #136
Evidence, no ? OnDoutside Mar 2019 #137
Would republicans have been fairer to Franken than Democrats? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #138
We'll never know because your friend killed his right to have a OnDoutside Mar 2019 #140
No, Franken killed by resigning Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #142
Lolz....good one ! I presume you'd describe all this as "Fake News" too ? OnDoutside Mar 2019 #145
It is fake news Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #146
And do you deny that Gillibrand was the one who jumped the gun to stab her Senate colleague in OnDoutside Mar 2019 #147
No That is fake news. Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #148
I'm content that anyone reading your post will recognise your rewriting of history to create a OnDoutside Mar 2019 #149
No it is reality Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #150
Lolz thanks for the confirmation !!! OnDoutside Mar 2019 #157
Don't forget these Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #159
No one is forgetting those who followed, but she jumped the gun trying to OnDoutside Mar 2019 #160
Jumped the gun? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #161
I admire your clean up effort but so many of us here watched all this play out in real time, OnDoutside Mar 2019 #162
No just presenting the facts Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #163
Spun facts certainly. Well you could provide that evidence as to why the you know the Senate Ethics OnDoutside Mar 2019 #164
If it was all a right wing hit job Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #165
Try answering the question. OnDoutside Mar 2019 #166
I did Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #167
No, you didn't. Try again. OnDoutside Mar 2019 #168
Yes I did Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #169
So if a person gets accused of sexual harassment.. MicaelS Mar 2019 #115
That is up to the owners Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #123
She has to live with it now... BlueJac Mar 2019 #104
Meanwhile all of Frankens accusers faded back into the wood work... Historic NY Mar 2019 #105
this disqualifies her in my eyes and almost all other democrats I personally know, a MISTAKE she beachbum bob Mar 2019 #106
Gillibrand did not call for due process -- she demanded his resignation jmellman Mar 2019 #107
Along with over 30 other Senators the very same morning Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #131
I don't think Gillibrand has much of a chance Politicub Mar 2019 #109
Well said Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #132
Meh Lotusflower70 Mar 2019 #129
She was not the only candidate calling for Al Franken's resignation, and for those arguing that "she still_one Mar 2019 #151
No, but she's the only one running on it, which is all on her. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #154
Can't argue with that reasoning. Excellent point still_one Mar 2019 #156
She's NOT running on it. She responded to questions about it. brooklynite Mar 2019 #158
Bottom Line: Gillibrand helped out in a Roger Stone Rat Fucking Operation of Al Franken in order ... Botany Mar 2019 #153
Got fundraising call today maineac May 2019 #170
The Franken incident is mentioned in the comments in this article Gothmog Jul 2019 #171
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