all women are whores

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12. Hey, if I am wrong, please enlighten me. What is the best study out there on subconscious

belief? Are there actually studies that are scientifically valid that do address this?

If I am wrong and way off base on this, please let me know. Keep in mind that I am an outsider to this group and do represent the passive consumer of the OP's argument as it popped up in Latest Threads (I think). Unless the position is elaborated with some references, who (outside of the people who don't need to be convinced) is to know what to make of any given argument?

Ostensibly, the OP is there to convince people of some position, so please don't mistake my (possibly incorrect) criticism of the presentation of the argument for a devaluation of the pursuit of equality.

Now, given that, I would like to thank you for the more detailed reply that you did write. I agree that people need to examine their own behaviors and that as you state it take other to show them what they are unconsciously doing.

Read from the outside, doing something unconsciously means something quite different than acting based on the subconscious. Maybe there is no difference - I don't know. Please keep in mind that I do admit my ignorance of the topic when I ask you to please point me to a study. I know that people often refer to google as means to find anything, but it does not necessary point one to the best study. I am aware of Lakoff and his study of frames, etc., but is he the one who actually is doing the important work to which you are referring?

I understand if you don't want to have this discussion, but please keep in mind that I did not intentionally go to the History of Feminism Group to start anything, and I will leave quietly if that is what is desired. (PM me and tell me what you think is the best course of action.) I was just reading Latest Threads and wondered who would post a thread entitled "all women are whores."

I do see what you are saying, though. Thanks again for the reply.