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In reply to the discussion: all women are whores [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)(It's just that men come out ahead more often than not.)
I've mentioned the eharmony discussion boards before as a place where you can see this writ large.
Should the man pay for the first date? For everything? Hold the door, pull out the chair?
Well, the women think he should (in a majority). Otherwise, he's showing that he doesn't consider her worth the price of dinner. Seriously.
And the men think they should (in a majority). If the woman wants to pay her own way, she's a feminazi trying to emasculate him.
But ... then comes the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the men about women wanting to be equal but treating them like meal tickets. And we can assume that the women do want to have those equal rights in the workplace things, but yes, they still expect to be treated like a superior species that should be given its due of wining and dining when it comes to their personal lives.
Who goes first? Do men say Fuck this noise, pay for your own dinners and houses? Do women who want equal rights need to say Piss off, I am not for sale and I will feed and house myself?
Nobody wants to go first, because they will inevitably be met with women calling them rude and selfish, and men calling them feminazis.
(Of course, what I can't figure out is why either would care, since who wants to hitch themselves to someone who regards them as a meal ticket or someone who insists on controlling them?)
Men can't really start, because unless they all do it at once, some of them will lose out in the competition for desirable women, who will presumably go with the men who court them with dinners and houses.
Women could start. We have more to lose from the present arrangement, and more to gain by rejecting it.
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