2016 Postmortem

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23. Do you think the NAACP, MoveON, DU, and unions should not be protected by the First Amendment?

Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:45 PM

Jan 2016

Was it wrong for the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the NY Times in the Pentagon Papers case? The list is endless.

What was wrong with CU was not its recognition of corporate personhood for purposes of the First Amendment, it was its failure to recognize that the First Amendment is not absolute and that distinctions can be drawn between speakers, just as distinctions are drawn between natural persons when it comes to the First Amendment. Minors don't have the same rights as adults. Prisoners don't have the same rights as non-prisoners. Members of the military don't have the same rights as civilians.

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Who would pick the BEST Supreme Court Justices? Bernie Or Hill ? [View all] vkkv Jan 2016 OP

Bernie Sanders TSIAS Jan 2016 #1

Let them add it to the 'the record' vkkv Jan 2016 #2

Either of them gwheezie Jan 2016 #3

Yes, Hillary won't jeopardize Roe, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #13

+1 cui bono Jan 2016 #32

The early voting doesn't look good for the Hillary Forum where they vkkv Jan 2016 #4

Someone that doesn't like debate JackInGreen Jan 2016 #10

That's quite ironic Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #11

Oh that is priceless, especially the 'Billary' comment. Kentonio Jan 2016 #20

How earth DID you find THIS from 2008 ?? vkkv Jan 2016 #22

I kind of stumbled on that a few months ago Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #28

Probably Bernie Kalidurga Jan 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author vkkv Jan 2016 #6

Let's see, at this point 88 views..18 votes.. that is 70 Hillary supporters who are afraid to say vkkv Jan 2016 #7

Bernie - 3 to 1 at this point - Hillary Forum fans can .. you know what! vkkv Jan 2016 #8

Definitely would pick a justice that would reverse "corporate personhood" decisions... cascadiance Jan 2016 #9

Actually, Bernie's position on CU, appropriately, is much narrower than that onenote Jan 2016 #17

Corporate Personhood is larger than Citizen's United... cascadiance Jan 2016 #18

Do you think the NAACP, MoveON, DU, and unions should not be protected by the First Amendment? onenote Jan 2016 #23

They nor corporations are NOT "natural persons" and aren't given rights by the 14th amendment... cascadiance Jan 2016 #24

So you would have allowed the NY Times to be prosecuted onenote Jan 2016 #25

Sorry, but the Bill of Rights was designed for NATURAL persons, not artificial persons... cascadiance Jan 2016 #26

The "press" could be an individual. You can't have it both ways onenote Jan 2016 #30

The press itself is mentioned specifically in the constitution. Corporations are not! cascadiance Jan 2016 #33

the reason we have a first amendment is that we cannot trust the legislature to protect speech onenote Jan 2016 #34

The flaw in your argument anigbrowl Jan 2016 #35

The flaw in your argument... cascadiance Jan 2016 #36

Get real. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #37

Then I guess you must just love the Hobby Lobby decision if you love corporate personhood rights! cascadiance Jan 2016 #40

Oh please anigbrowl Jan 2016 #41

corporate personhood is centuries old and not going away Recursion Jan 2016 #44

NO, there is NO reason we can't have LEGISLATED LAW to permit them being sued... cascadiance Jan 2016 #45

Sorry, you must have replied to the wrong post Recursion Jan 2016 #46

The reality is that there wouldn't be much difference in who they would pick onenote Jan 2016 #12

This, plus firebrand80 Jan 2016 #14

I agree Enrique Jan 2016 #38

Both. n/t Nonhlanhla Jan 2016 #15

I think both would do an equivalently good job el_bryanto Jan 2016 #16

Not even close. 99Forever Jan 2016 #19

Hillary Forum can't be happy about THESE results! vkkv Jan 2016 #21

The democratic president.... AuntPatsy Jan 2016 #27

I think either would select fine nominees TeddyR Jan 2016 #29

ACTUAL kindergarteners would nominate better SC justices than the GOP Congress. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #31

Their picks would probably be identical or close to it DFW Jan 2016 #39

Pretty much. Recursion Jan 2016 #43

Meh. There's a fixed set they're drawing from Recursion Jan 2016 #42