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cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
18. Corporate Personhood is larger than Citizen's United...
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jan 2016

... and affects so many other decisions and areas than just this decision.

Bernie might not be citing citizen's united in this case, though I don't think he feels that precedent shouldn't be overturned, even if in some places where he's discussed it it hasn't been mentioned. I've not seen any quotes that have him specifically saying he wouldn't overturn corporate personhood decisions. If you are asserting that, then you need an article to back that up.

Especially when the talk show host, Thom Hartmann, that has had his town hall session every Friday for almost the last decade, is one of the foremost persons through written word and his show to seek to both make people aware of the faulty corporate personhood decision and to get it overturned. Bernie wouldn't be against what Thom Hartmann has championed on his show for years. Bernie knows that this is where corporations get a lot of their power and through decisions made by SCOTUS in this regard. I definitely feel he's far more inclined to make corporate personhood positioning a litmus test for who he nominates for the court than Hillary would.

And in situations where we can control and regulate corporate behavior in areas like money contributions, then if we can limit them from doing campaign contributions, I don't mind limiting other organizations such as unions, etc. from doing equivalent donations, as I think we still win if we can control the big corporate donors and PACs first and foremost. If we control them, then we don't need the other forms of donations. As long as we have a more level playing field with the average person as able to be heard as the wealthy.

One other area that needs to be corrected is the recent move by more right wing courts to cede their authority of citizen lawsuits to be moved to arbitration panels which are rigged more to work in corporations favor, especially when the SCOTUS recently has also ruled in such a way to limit average people's ability to participate in class action lawsuits which helps this form of justice to be rigged even more.

SCOTUS selection criteria should definitely protect us from overturning women's rights given to it by Roe, until a rational congress can actually put in sensible legislation, so that we can move back to a court that isn't making law by themselves like they are with corporate personhood, and others like Hobby Lobby, etc. too.

We need to make sure that not only will nominees to the court rule in favor of what we want for social justice issues, but especially on issues that give corporations and the wealthy too much "rights" that have been purchased by their buying off Republican presidents, etc. that have picked justices like Roberts, etc. who are bought and paid for to deliver corporate friendly decisions.

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Bernie Sanders TSIAS Jan 2016 #1
Let them add it to the 'the record' vkkv Jan 2016 #2
Either of them gwheezie Jan 2016 #3
Yes, Hillary won't jeopardize Roe, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #13
+1 cui bono Jan 2016 #32
The early voting doesn't look good for the Hillary Forum where they vkkv Jan 2016 #4
Someone that doesn't like debate JackInGreen Jan 2016 #10
That's quite ironic Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #11
Oh that is priceless, especially the 'Billary' comment. Kentonio Jan 2016 #20
How earth DID you find THIS from 2008 ?? vkkv Jan 2016 #22
I kind of stumbled on that a few months ago Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #28
Probably Bernie Kalidurga Jan 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author vkkv Jan 2016 #6
Let's see, at this point 88 views..18 votes.. that is 70 Hillary supporters who are afraid to say vkkv Jan 2016 #7
Bernie - 3 to 1 at this point - Hillary Forum fans can .. you know what! vkkv Jan 2016 #8
Definitely would pick a justice that would reverse "corporate personhood" decisions... cascadiance Jan 2016 #9
Actually, Bernie's position on CU, appropriately, is much narrower than that onenote Jan 2016 #17
Corporate Personhood is larger than Citizen's United... cascadiance Jan 2016 #18
Do you think the NAACP, MoveON, DU, and unions should not be protected by the First Amendment? onenote Jan 2016 #23
They nor corporations are NOT "natural persons" and aren't given rights by the 14th amendment... cascadiance Jan 2016 #24
So you would have allowed the NY Times to be prosecuted onenote Jan 2016 #25
Sorry, but the Bill of Rights was designed for NATURAL persons, not artificial persons... cascadiance Jan 2016 #26
The "press" could be an individual. You can't have it both ways onenote Jan 2016 #30
The press itself is mentioned specifically in the constitution. Corporations are not! cascadiance Jan 2016 #33
the reason we have a first amendment is that we cannot trust the legislature to protect speech onenote Jan 2016 #34
The flaw in your argument anigbrowl Jan 2016 #35
The flaw in your argument... cascadiance Jan 2016 #36
Get real. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #37
Then I guess you must just love the Hobby Lobby decision if you love corporate personhood rights! cascadiance Jan 2016 #40
Oh please anigbrowl Jan 2016 #41
corporate personhood is centuries old and not going away Recursion Jan 2016 #44
NO, there is NO reason we can't have LEGISLATED LAW to permit them being sued... cascadiance Jan 2016 #45
Sorry, you must have replied to the wrong post Recursion Jan 2016 #46
The reality is that there wouldn't be much difference in who they would pick onenote Jan 2016 #12
This, plus firebrand80 Jan 2016 #14
I agree Enrique Jan 2016 #38
Both. n/t Nonhlanhla Jan 2016 #15
I think both would do an equivalently good job el_bryanto Jan 2016 #16
Not even close. 99Forever Jan 2016 #19
Hillary Forum can't be happy about THESE results! vkkv Jan 2016 #21
The democratic president.... AuntPatsy Jan 2016 #27
I think either would select fine nominees TeddyR Jan 2016 #29
ACTUAL kindergarteners would nominate better SC justices than the GOP Congress. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #31
Their picks would probably be identical or close to it DFW Jan 2016 #39
Pretty much. Recursion Jan 2016 #43
Meh. There's a fixed set they're drawing from Recursion Jan 2016 #42
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