2016 Postmortem

randys1

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106. Bernie Sanders would never knowingly violate the rules on something like this.

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:28 PM

Dec 2015

His campaign people may indeed be inexperienced and may have fucked up, either on purpose or because they dont know what they are doing. Or it is an honest mistake.

Bernie is ultimately responsible, but nobody here honestly believes Bernie Sanders would do this let alone be OK with it if and when he found out.

Say what you will about him as a campaigner or whatever, but Bernie Sanders is an honest man and we ALL know that.

We are all gonna look god damn silly if 5 months from now Bernie having lost the nomination to Hilary is campaigning for her and some reporter asks about any dems calling him dishonest.

Or, 5 months from now and Bernie is our candidate and the entire rightwing is saying he is a crook and liar and cant be trusted and to prove that they look at what WE said today!

No, we are better than that.

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DISGRACEFUL: DNC Compromises Clinton Campaign Data, Then Blames/punishes Bernie Sanders [View all] AgingAmerican Dec 2015 OP

Much like the person who discovers that data at a bank is not secure and is thrown in jail LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #1

Then why fire him? redstateblues Dec 2015 #4

Nope, as in business, when a mistake of a certain magnitude is made someone has to LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #6

That someone also instructed 3 staffers to access forbidden data. Hortensis Dec 2015 #30

fuchsia the dnc roguevalley Dec 2015 #61

take it you agree. Josh did harm, not just dishonor, Hortensis Dec 2015 #97

actually, he didn't. The DNC didn't fix the flaw since October. roguevalley Dec 2015 #173

So, if a candy store puts candy in a barrel near the door, Hortensis Dec 2015 #190

I know where I used to work when we encountered situations like that we LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #114

Yep, that's SOP around my job n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #176

Untrue. There were 2 people who had access. One of them had made 2 additional accounts. Bubzer Dec 2015 #159

Why? Never happened in the Iraq War or the Market Crash. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #113

ha ha. whow. What a twisted up OP. riversedge Dec 2015 #9

+1 stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #80

This subject is getting so much spin workinclasszero Dec 2015 #111

It takes masters to detect it Plucketeer Dec 2015 #184

Yeah if they took the data and made a record of it. moobu2 Dec 2015 #117

According to the audit they did there were pages of data that were downloaded and printed by BS staff Laser102 Dec 2015 #191

And don't you love it how suddenly 39 year olds are "young and passionate"? pnwmom Dec 2015 #171

Always the victim redstateblues Dec 2015 #2

They did take responsibility for it AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #10

No, they haven't. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #19

This is What Happens... LeFleur1 Dec 2015 #35

I agree. The DNC are a bunch of gutless, unethical amateurs and should all be fired, STAT! Proserpina Dec 2015 #92

I agree BS employed a bunch of thieves and gutless unethical amateurs and they should all be fired. Laser102 Dec 2015 #192

Always the victim tecelote Dec 2015 #52

All 3 campaigns were victims of bad software practices in this case. phleshdef Dec 2015 #154

Except Bernie's campaign took advantage of the glitch and took 24 Clinton voter lists. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #167

You have no understanding of what you are even reading phleshdef Dec 2015 #168

I suggest you stop telling DUers when they can post. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #175

Suggestion denied. Now go educate yourself. phleshdef Dec 2015 #177

I am quite educated. Insulting fellow DUers will not make this go away. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #179

Ignoring facts wont change the reality... phleshdef Dec 2015 #181

Check MSNBC. They have the copies that were downloaded. PROOF OF THEFT!!! Laser102 Dec 2015 #193

The word theft is just stupid in this context phleshdef Dec 2015 #196

So you say rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #3

Read the article. AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #11

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #5

That's not exactly what happened tammywammy Dec 2015 #7

I can guarantee you, there is a clause in the contract with the vendor prohibiting the access of... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #8

Exactly. moobu2 Dec 2015 #13

#WeGotBerned MohRokTah Dec 2015 #14

Are you REALLY suggesting that Bernie directed the fired campaign worker to do this? beac Dec 2015 #48

I have never trusted Sanders and always questioned his character. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #51

You didn't answer my question and beac Dec 2015 #56

I answered your question MohRokTah Dec 2015 #60

No, you didn't answer the question about Sanders but you did beac Dec 2015 #62

Yes, I did answer the question. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #63

And I have no desire to engage in beac Dec 2015 #67

I'm not changing my signature line MohRokTah Dec 2015 #69

"nefarious activities" beac Dec 2015 #70

"nefarious activities" MohRokTah Dec 2015 #72

Did those watergate burglars report the possibility of breaches to the hotel for months beforehand? JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #77

Your Personal Attacks Indicate How Desperate Hillary Supporters Are Becoming. Stainless Dec 2015 #109

I disagree. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #112

It's Called Reflection Stainless Dec 2015 #150

Seriously. It's becoming so transparent I'm surprised they can keep a straight face n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #155

No you didn't. You're making that up to exploit this story. arcane1 Dec 2015 #58

ROFL MohRokTah Dec 2015 #59

Play that role. Even Fox & Friends has more subtlety. arcane1 Dec 2015 #99

I don't trust you and I'm questioning YOUR character. phleshdef Dec 2015 #83

+1 eom Duval Dec 2015 #93

Whatever It Takes(tm) arcane1 Dec 2015 #100

Just a quick insert...the FBI is still looking into emails...they want the scrubbed computer libdem4life Dec 2015 #116

Nice spin lib, a post about Hillary in a discussion about malfeasance in the Bernie campaign. Nitram Dec 2015 #128

Well, since the person to whom chervilant Dec 2015 #188

Why have you questioned his character? Punkingal Dec 2015 #107

Same thing I based my questioning of Edwards' character in 2004 on. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #110

Just curious... Punkingal Dec 2015 #115

that's exactly how I feel about you grasswire Dec 2015 #158

His story was that he were merely in the system in order to "create a record" pnwmom Dec 2015 #68

Here's what you said about Barack Obama in 2008, as testament to the value of your verbiage: Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #149

Exactly, and that is why I think the Sanders campaign notified the company months ago LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #18

No they didn't.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #36

So this statement from Michael Briggs is a lie? Can you point me to a correct statement? LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #41

apparently... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #44

The LA Times article said the same.. They have known about it for months and have been warning about LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #46

NOT true.. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #50

Our campaign months ago alerted the D.N.C LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #53

It is true, the proof has been provided. You are impotent to prove otherwise. phleshdef Dec 2015 #84

Yep, that's what they Go Vols Dec 2015 #121

Yep, and posters here are referring to it as the "Sanders campaign data breech." That's fucked up. Scuba Dec 2015 #12

Probably a setup. NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #15

+10000 MissDeeds Dec 2015 #16

The problem arose with the CWA and DFA votes NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #76

And the media is on it first thing this morning. Duval Dec 2015 #91

Yes, the "convenience" factor is just too NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #185

Probably. They are desperate. nt GoneFishin Dec 2015 #33

No question about it. One of many dirty tricks to come. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #75

I'm afraid Bernista enthusiasm is at fault here. Nitram Dec 2015 #129

Surely you jest. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #161

Well, the shoe is on the other foot. Nitram Dec 2015 #164

A setup? And Hillary pointed a gun to their heads to force them to snoop. lunamagica Dec 2015 #85

This came after DFA endorsed Sanders even after Dean asked the group’s members to support Clinton Autumn Dec 2015 #88

Any way to pass the buck. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #17

I'm sure you would just let it slide if it was Hillary. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #20

The breach would also expose Sanders data to Clinton. Prove her campaign did not download any of it jeff47 Dec 2015 #28

"Prove her campaign did not download any of it" NCTraveler Dec 2015 #32

It's the demand being made of the Sanders campaign. The other campaigns should jeff47 Dec 2015 #34

What? It's clear you don't know what is going on. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #37

Actually, I'm well aware of what's going on. jeff47 Dec 2015 #43

Did the Clinton campaign access other campaigns' data? George II Dec 2015 #42

We don't know. It would be odd for them to be so incompetent that they didn't notice. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #45

Well they just did! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #38

K&R for exposure. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #21

This seems to be a reoccurring theme in America... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #22

Yes, pure Rovian MissDeeds Dec 2015 #24

Bernie doesn't have any strengths in this area. He does have amateurs running his campaign though. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #49

His strengths are honesty and integrity MissDeeds Dec 2015 #96

What a bunch of crap that is... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #151

Pure Rovian: blame someone else when you get caught. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #133

Hey.... wait a minute.... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #152

Ha, ha. Nice deflection. Nitram Dec 2015 #153

Not so honest now huh? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #39

Mom, what you mean is... Nitram Dec 2015 #132

You would be talking about the DNC... notified in October... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #156

So the DNC for negligence. Nitram Dec 2015 #157

Some people like to imagine what makes them appear to be superior... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #174

Ha ha Mom, we're just adopting Bernista snark because it got so tiresome. Nitram Dec 2015 #195

should campaigns have their own databases? shireen Dec 2015 #23

Especially when it is so clear that the DNC is partial to one jwirr Dec 2015 #90

no, but the DBA who left the data viewable has some splainin' to do 0rganism Dec 2015 #146

Considering this software is what every canvass and its mother uses... intersectionality Dec 2015 #160

The Sanders campaign accessed off-limits data Tarc Dec 2015 #25

What a setup!! Nicely played Camp Weathervane FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #26

There's a NEW camp Weathervane in town... MrWendel Dec 2015 #47

Typical. Blame someone else for your "mistake". Nitram Dec 2015 #134

The "overzealous campaign worker" was Sanders' National Data Director... SidDithers Dec 2015 #27

petition shireen Dec 2015 #29

Signed and shared Vincardog Dec 2015 #73

same Go Vols Dec 2015 #126

Signed and posted to FB. Thanks for posting. n/t dgibby Dec 2015 #182

Unbelievable - the Sanders Campaign gets caught stealing data and it's DWS and the DNC's fault... George II Dec 2015 #31

Disgraceful is right....but not of who YOU claim it is... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #40

Whatever It Takes(tm) arcane1 Dec 2015 #54

But Lord... Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #55

It's how they roll. nt Zorra Dec 2015 #57

Uh, not exactly but nice try. leftofcool Dec 2015 #63

My initial reaction NowSam Dec 2015 #65

Try as you might, Sam, this is about Sanders, not Clinton. Nitram Dec 2015 #137

Clinton=Rove NowSam Dec 2015 #140

You can't defend Sanders by making stuff up about Clinton. Nitram Dec 2015 #144

The WA Post says they are merely asking for a report on what happened and "assurances" pnwmom Dec 2015 #66

I don't think it was all that innocent Gman Dec 2015 #71

Does Sanders own people? Is that why you won't support him? This is lame. Vincardog Dec 2015 #74

Like it or not, he owns them lock stock and barrel Gman Dec 2015 #79

Funny I have the same problem, but it is with the corporations that own HRC. Vincardog Dec 2015 #104

Grow up people. relayerbob Dec 2015 #78

This one backfired the moment it went out the gate PatrynXX Dec 2015 #81

Running around with petition this petition that, trying to deflect blame. Historic NY Dec 2015 #82

Appears that the DNC Thespian2 Dec 2015 #86

Watch out for the warning signs on DU of... MrWendel Dec 2015 #87

Right, that's what follows denial. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #138

Perhaps it was on purpose. Wasserman-Schultz needs to go. Matariki Dec 2015 #89

The fired Sanders employee admits to accessing the data Renew Deal Dec 2015 #94

Hence him being fired AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #105

Your subject line is untrue. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #108

If no one on Sanders' campaign did anything wrong, why did Josh Uretsky get fired? Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #95

Bernie Sanders would never knowingly violate the rules on something like this. randys1 Dec 2015 #106

The guy who was fired has a significant amount of IT and political experience: Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #122

Bernies "National Data Director" Nitram Dec 2015 #139

Hillary should apologize to Bernie! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #98

Hey, check out that mole-hill! Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #101

If the situation were reversed you would have upaloopa Dec 2015 #102

D Wa-Schultz is actually doing the Sanders campaign a big favor. floriduck Dec 2015 #103

I don't think it helps Bernie, but it sure makes the DNC look incompetent. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #136

And, the most interesting part: Hepburn Dec 2015 #118

Yes, Hepburn, nice story. Nitram Dec 2015 #141

Look to one person--- dpatbrown Dec 2015 #119

Paranoid Desperation: The DNC is corrupt and is running a Rigged game Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #120

Paranoid desperation perfectly describes the Bernista reaction to malfeasance in their... Nitram Dec 2015 #142

Report: Sanders campaign told DNC of data issue months ago Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #169

WhatSander's campaign neglected to mention in their report was... Nitram Dec 2015 #194

K&R for the responses (nt) Babel_17 Dec 2015 #123

I'll Hold Off on the Campaign-Level Stuff SDJay Dec 2015 #124

Keep on SPINNIN', Bernanas. Nitram Dec 2015 #125

K & R -- Thank you! senz Dec 2015 #127

Hillary has something to HIDE in that data? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #131

This was the last straw jaycrewz Dec 2015 #135

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #143

Stu worked directly on a number of campaigns, including working in the 1992 Clinton-Gore "War Room," Pryderi Dec 2015 #145

The dnc upper level seems hopelessly corrupt. Doctor_J Dec 2015 #147

IF Bernie Sanders Is The Culprit Here Then ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #148

I cut my $$ off this morning Carol Morgan Dec 2015 #162

Further evidence that Debbie W Schultz can be just as vile as anyone in the GOP. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #163

It's interesting that Debbie, the DNC Chairwoman is staying silent. But she does support rladdi Dec 2015 #165

Well, since the DNC's sorry ratfucking attempt on Sanders, I have done four things: PatrickforO Dec 2015 #166

The fact that so many Sanders supporters iandhr Dec 2015 #170

So now 39 year old National Data Directors are "young and passionate." pnwmom Dec 2015 #172

Proof Clinton Supporters Allowed Breach billhicks76 Dec 2015 #178

Nefarious action by the DNC. Paka Dec 2015 #180

Rove would be zentrum Dec 2015 #183

What a coincidence jaycrewz Dec 2015 #186

so dnc is the problem, not hillary certainot Dec 2015 #187

Thanks for the post. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #189