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gitchel

(68 posts)
88. Relax
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:26 AM
Dec 2015

Trump's method is to gather a particular type of Republican. He is capitalizing on what used to be know as the Silent Majority. When Falwell and Viguerie brought them out of the silence and created the Moral Majority, they became the easily-roused reactionary rabble that could be brought out to steal any election with some connection to anything that could be painted with a racial, pseudo-religious, or nationalistic brush. The GOP eventually came to depend on this group, gerrymandered to include them, and developed techniques to shepherd them - for example, placing pro-abortion referenda on some key ballots to attract large numbers of loonies.

Well, Donald has stolen them. Which means he's stolen 40% of the Republican Party. And probably 60% of the active republican vote. This has made it difficult for the rest of the candidates, since they planned on campaigning to those loonies, and hadn't put together anything substantive that might appeal to the mainstream republicans. Since the loonies vote at a higher rate than the mainstream, this made sense. It's worked that way for decades. But now Donald has them. That's why the other candidates are so quiet right now. They can't create reasonable platforms to attract the mainstream, because they are still hoping to grab the loonies - perhaps Donald will screw the pooch. So we wait. Everyone waits to see what happens to Donald and his crop of brain stems.

If Donald makes it to the convention, and enough other candidates have dropped off the horizon, he may get the nomination, unless the GOP finds a clever workaround - and they will try hard. If Donald gets nominated, it'll be the lowest republican turnout for the general election in decades. Not because of Bernie or Hillary, but because most republicans don't like Donald any more than the rest of us. There's likely to be a massive number of republicans who simply avoid the embarrassment by staying home.

If Donald, or someone else, doesn't get nominated in the first round at the convention, then it's a brokered convention. Then the dealing starts. And we get to see the battle between Money (Donald) and Power (GOP). Should be fascinating.

The scariest outcome of this battle would be if Donald LOST. Then we get Cruz, someone who appeals to most of the mainstream and most of the loonies. If they manage to bring us any of the other viable candidates, it'll be very close. If they bring Cruz, or even Rubio, we are likely to lose big. We might even have to force 20-30% of Democrats to get off their asses and VOTE!

So, you are more reasonable to be afraid of Cruz and Rubio than Donald. But it would be much more sensible to start beating your Democratic (and reasonable Republican) friends over the head about voting, starting right now and continuing right up to after dark on Election Day.

I'm fairly sure we've never lost an election that we couldn't have won with just a few percent more voters.

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Is anyone else as frightened as I am? [View all] DissidentVoice Dec 2015 OP
His poll numbers really are a plateau aren't they? maybe 30-35 nationally. He does riversedge Dec 2015 #1
Also, that's just among GOP primary voters Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #4
True, but a lot of xenophobes may vote for the first time for him -- hard to predict... Freelancer Dec 2015 #77
Ancestry usually doesn't do it, except if it's very close DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #83
If you've got the cash, you might be able to buy citizenship in Belize Freelancer Dec 2015 #91
If Hillary gets the nomination, it's hello President Trump... Ino Dec 2015 #2
If Hillary gets the nomination it's hello President Clinton... brooklynite Dec 2015 #10
If Hillary gets the nomination it's hello fascism zappaman Dec 2015 #16
She does oppose free speech by opposing encryption (which is also free speech) JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #31
Nope. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #19
She will hand Trump his xenophobic and racist ass and I would bet my life on it. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #33
Please provide a how that happens rpannier Dec 2015 #44
I could see him easily winning... DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #56
I don't see him winning 3 of the 4 states the person above noted rpannier Dec 2015 #60
I still hold to what I said about Indiana DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #82
If it's HRC rpannier Dec 2015 #42
I like the sound of Madam President riversedge Dec 2015 #81
That's ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #11
Say good bye to any SCOTUS nominations bahrbearian Dec 2015 #14
She will hand Trump his xenophobic and racist ass and I would bet my life on it. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #32
Sure, let me borrow your crystal ball. Beacool Dec 2015 #65
Oh, I think you prefer these balls... Ino Dec 2015 #74
I get where you're coming from.. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #3
No nation is going to take a person in unless he or she has an essential skill or lots of $$$$ DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #5
No. He's polling at -56% with latino's. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #6
Just -56% rpannier Dec 2015 #46
That was from 2 months ago. Probably much lower now. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #48
Probably rpannier Dec 2015 #50
Hitler is Trump's bedtime reading: "speeches that bewitched audiences" 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #7
Ironic. DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #9
And changed his name. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #61
Your wife sounds like a smart cookie. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #8
"...that odious TV abomination "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous," complete with Robin Leach's..." Wilms Dec 2015 #12
No I am not afraid upaloopa Dec 2015 #13
Only if "us all" are the 1 percent. eom Fawke Em Dec 2015 #20
Sure what ever you say upaloopa Dec 2015 #23
Trump speaks to the most insane part of the GOP base, and to no one else. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #15
yes and no. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #17
I support Sanders, but.. Kentonio Dec 2015 #18
This seems like the wrong place for this. nt artislife Dec 2015 #21
Actually, I struggled with where to put this DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #45
Yes it has nothing to do with the Democratic primary. nt artislife Dec 2015 #59
Trump will beat Bernie. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #22
I feel that Bernie has a certain immunity to media attacks. retrowire Dec 2015 #25
Yeah, since it hardly covers him! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #30
The polls say different Lazy Daisy Dec 2015 #28
Evidence or is this just your opinion rpannier Dec 2015 #62
Yes. I'm scared too. retrowire Dec 2015 #24
I, too awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #36
wanna know what really sucks? retrowire Dec 2015 #73
I'm rooting for Trump ErikJ Dec 2015 #26
Could you please tell me WHY? DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #47
Because he will split the vote or destroy the GOP ErikJ Dec 2015 #66
No. For several reasons.... MADem Dec 2015 #27
Trump is dangerous but less dangerous than any other GOP prez candy. valerief Dec 2015 #29
I am not frightened. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #34
I'm scared because this stupid shit Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #35
Sorry you don't like my "stupid shit." DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #49
You are right Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #55
Point taken nt DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #57
lower brain stem manipulation... fear or flee basic stimulation Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #58
Nope. We have survived bad presidents. Life goes on. 840high Dec 2015 #37
It's not the bad presidents mmm413 Dec 2015 #43
Not so much Cruz's... DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #51
YOU have survived bad presidents. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #71
Trump is a soon to be deflated gasbag. The late kairos12 Dec 2015 #38
I disagree Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #70
My worry is real DVRacer Dec 2015 #39
How about the possibility that the FBI investigates okasha Dec 2015 #76
A majority but not a "great majority". n/t cheapdate Dec 2015 #80
Trump is just saying out loud in public what Republicans have been dog whistling for decades Fumesucker Dec 2015 #90
Unless someone else comes along Cruz will be the nominee. Bonhomme Richard Dec 2015 #40
What scares me even more mmm413 Dec 2015 #41
Not me. They are dangerous assholes, but they are few and mostly harmless loudmouths. arcane1 Dec 2015 #52
Trump has no chance to win the GE dlwickham Dec 2015 #53
Fear is useless. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #54
This life is nothing short of a deepening network of ethereal balance. valerief Dec 2015 #64
k. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #72
No. LWolf Dec 2015 #63
Nope. 99Forever Dec 2015 #67
No. I'm not frightened by Donald Trump. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #68
Sanders is polled to beat him in a landslide. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #69
Relax. Trump has never consistently held on to more than 30% of the GOP vote. Persondem Dec 2015 #75
It's like being in Alexandria, in the year 391, watching a mob burn the library -- nt Freelancer Dec 2015 #78
Not me. n/t cheapdate Dec 2015 #79
Watch out for Ted Ctuz, who is sliming his way to the nomination. See WaPo links Hekate Dec 2015 #84
Only half of the people in this country vote. Of that half, half are Democrats and half are Repubs. FSogol Dec 2015 #85
remember we had 8 years of Ronny olddots Dec 2015 #86
No. Not at all. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #87
Relax gitchel Dec 2015 #88
Trump will fall off. Turn CO Blue Dec 2015 #89
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