2016 Postmortem

BainsBane

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18. Why would someone who purports to be against Citizens United?

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:45 PM

Nov 2015

Falsely claim a candidate is for it who clearly articulates policies to the contrary on her website?

Why would someone who claims to care about policy go to such lengths to avoid familiarizing themselves with the policy of a leading Democratic candidate and repeatedly misrepresent her positions?

And why would people who want to see the corruption of government through money pretend it hinges on a single supreme court ruling and fail to inform themselves about the myriad of rulings, starting with Buckley, that make the situation possible?

I see only two possible explanations for the repeated misrepresentation of a candidate's position on issues. 1) Policy has little to nothing to do with their opposition to the candidate, because if it did they wouldn't have to continually and willfully misrepresent (the most likely option). 2) But why then create false positions? It's almost as if they want their projections to be true.

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Why would a Democrat vote for H. Clinton and Citizens United? [View all] rhett o rick Nov 2015 OP

Dirty Money is not the Democratic Party way. -none Nov 2015 #1

This Class War isn't between Democrats and Republicons, it's a war between progressives and rhett o rick Nov 2015 #31

I've been told it's because people are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #2

So you support Citizens United for H. Clinton only and don't see the hypocrisy? rhett o rick Nov 2015 #3

Read my post again.... Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #7

You are being kind with your last sentence and giving them the benefit of the doubt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #11

What's funny is the comment about wanting a strong authoritarian leader Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #29

"thoroughly confused." zappaman Nov 2015 #24

Clinton is using Citizens United to gain a financial edge. I assume you support that. But don't rhett o rick Nov 2015 #33

"Clinton is using Citizens United to gain a financial edge." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #63

I spelled it out in the OP. She is taking advantage of Super PACS. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #64

You have no argument. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #67

Now you are rationalize what you define as goodness. I have no argument with your definition rhett o rick Nov 2015 #70

There will no be Sanders supporters after the upaloopa Nov 2015 #32

Millions never vote in every election. That's because you offer Corp Thing 1 vs. Corp Thing 2. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #36

The only way to change Citizens United is to win in 2016 and appoint SCOTUS justices Gothmog Nov 2015 #4

scotus matter restorefreedom Nov 2015 #20

Please provide an explanation or some proof for this claim Gothmog Nov 2015 #23

its kind of everywhere restorefreedom Nov 2015 #27

And yet Sanders is declining in the Predictwise rankings Gothmog Nov 2015 #57

its a good thing humans don' take advice from predictive markets restorefreedom Nov 2015 #66

Actually, people are taking advise and are making/losing money on the predictive markets Gothmog Nov 2015 #88

not a free market person restorefreedom Nov 2015 #89

Vote for the candidate of your choice Gothmog Nov 2015 #91

i get it, intellectually speaking it seems to have its own mojo restorefreedom Nov 2015 #92

Spoken like a true 1%er. tazkcmo Nov 2015 #77

In the real world, one backs up their claims or put their money where their mouth is Gothmog Nov 2015 #87

So you don't approve of CU but it's ok to use it for goodness purposes. The problem with that rhett o rick Nov 2015 #41

I do not believe in fighting a battle with a losing hand or both hands tied behing my back Gothmog Nov 2015 #53

Hillary has the negatives to give the GOP the best shot at winning the WH. The polls Vincardog Nov 2015 #61

And yet Predictwise has her by far the most likely person to become POTUS Gothmog Nov 2015 #62

2, maybe 3 ads would take BS out in the GE Rose Siding Nov 2015 #90

I begrudgingly voted option number three. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #5

Not surprised ibegurpard Nov 2015 #9

I would never want to shock you. I love your heart. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #10

It's a comment on the absurdity of the poll BainsBane Nov 2015 #22

the absurdity ibegurpard Nov 2015 #28

Someday someone must explain to me that if Hillary is basically a con, why are the actual randys1 Nov 2015 #34

They won't concede that BainsBane Nov 2015 #35

I agree that Hillary brings out the haters to vote, Bernie not so much. I believe randys1 Nov 2015 #40

I share that concern BainsBane Nov 2015 #58

It's all a big ruse, a head fake! Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #39

That applies just as strongly as to Wall Street's support of Hillary. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #73

+1 Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #14

.... tammywammy Nov 2015 #26

Seriously NCTraveler?? Fearless Nov 2015 #6

Big Time!!!!!!!! nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #8

Me too! Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #13

It has been like the laugh factory around here this morning. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #15

Gooble gobble! Gooble gobble! One of us! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #16

Where's the option that allows you to say: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #12

Last Friday a poster literally said Thatcher is a better feminist role model than Clinton. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #17

We've already been told voting for Clinton is a vote for fascism. BainsBane Nov 2015 #19

Well you are always free to give your views on Citizens United, but since no one in the rhett o rick Nov 2015 #42

LOL! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #46

Well you never want to discuss issues. How about the OP. Do you support CU? rhett o rick Nov 2015 #50

How about you delete the OP? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #52

Why would someone who purports to be against Citizens United? BainsBane Nov 2015 #18

The only effective way to eliminate Citizens United is to win in 2016 and control SCOTUS Gothmog Nov 2015 #25

They assume he is BainsBane Nov 2015 #38

I like Sanders but I cannot support a candidate who can not win in the general election Gothmog Nov 2015 #55

I used to like Sanders BainsBane Nov 2015 #59

GOP, Karl Rove, Bush/Rubio etal, ALEC and koch bros will do everything in their randys1 Nov 2015 #37

Because they have been told by their mmonk Nov 2015 #21

Nobody on this board supports the Citizens United decision upaloopa Nov 2015 #30

So explain if you don't approve why do you back a candidate that is willing to take advantage rhett o rick Nov 2015 #44

+1!!! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #47

I voted option three because your poll is hilarious Godhumor Nov 2015 #43

I notice that not one of you are willing to discuss the merits of CU. Why is that? I think you rhett o rick Nov 2015 #45

Once again with this rank bullshit. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #48

And once again you slide into profanity in place of discussing issues. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #51

I deeply apologize for defiling your ears with my foul language. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #56

I am only offended by those that choose to disparage others rather than engage in decent dialog. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #69

Sure bet you're open after posting that OP and that poll n/t Godhumor Nov 2015 #49

I join with the ACLU in supporting the Citizens United ruling. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #72

Unilateral disarmament is a sure road to defeat Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #54

That rationalization has gotten us into lots of trouble. Kill them before they kill you. That's rhett o rick Nov 2015 #65

Did you just babble something about Bush and Iraq? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #79

Hillary's campaign is not cheating. They are playing by the rules as they currently exist. Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #93

"The means justify the ends" seems to be the popular reply. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #60

"When did you stop beating your spouse?" Tarc Nov 2015 #68

Then all you have to do is refute what the OP says. Do you support CU or just rhett o rick Nov 2015 #71

Hillary's supporters are defenders of the Status Quo. It's that simple. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #74

They have infected every facet of government TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #75

They know *real* change is inevitable. Much of their support is a futile attempt to prevent it. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #76

BAD Hillary supporters, BAD! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #80

I am against CU, and Hillary Clinton bigwillq Nov 2015 #78

Hillary secretly produced that movie, through the Clinton Foundation ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #81

Why the lie about Hillary Clinton on CU MaggieD Nov 2015 #82

Oh thank goodness I found it Kalidurga Nov 2015 #83

Hillary supporters don't really care. Maedhros Nov 2015 #84

Well, you must give them some credit for flexibility. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #85

Is this snark? Seriously? Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #86