2016 Postmortem

tblue37

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147. Those who believe *that* show themselves pathetically ignorant of history.

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:53 AM

Oct 2015

Marriage was largely polygynous through much of human history--including biblical times. It has been polyandrous in a few places, too. Even today polygyny is entirely acceptable in many places (e.g., America's buddy country Saudi Arabia). But one man/one woman marriages have been the norm only for a relatively short time, and even at that, not universally.

Saying that was either being ignorant or--more likely--a result of political calculation. I believe that Obama rejected marriage equality until he "evolved" solely because of political expediency. I don't know about the Clintons, but I suspect political expediency there, too. They knew, as did Obama, that the country as a whole wasn't there yet. Maybe they could have shown more leadership on the issue, but maybe doing so would have allowed a true antigay bigot to get into a position of power, which would have been even worse. It's hard to say.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] WillyT Oct 2015 OP

I'm black and I do not support her for other reasons. Her Wall Street ties. JRLeft Oct 2015 #1

Same here tblue Oct 2015 #131

I say Willy T is typing what the propaganda says, and I am offended by this divisive title. Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #185

Respect - Your position has mine, Tblue. Hortensis Oct 2015 #223

Thank you. redwitch Nov 2015 #516

I suspect that if we polled senior citizens the support level would be similar but no one has Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #187

LGBT in the Twin Cities overwhelmingly support Bernie Kalidurga Oct 2015 #2

Queen Latifah? I don't think you have that right. Anyway...this reeks of condescension. Metric System Oct 2015 #3

Yeah he shitted on Sistah Soulja. JRLeft Oct 2015 #5

Well ... They all look alike. It's hard to tell them apart. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #11

Don't we all look alike? JRLeft Oct 2015 #14

Well. Come on ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #35

Dude, I'm a white woman and I know the difference. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #53

What are you talking about? Perhaps, you might re-read the sub-thread. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #70

You accused someone of thinking all black people look alike. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #106

pakistanis and indians are the same race JI7 Oct 2015 #120

They still have different features. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #139

not in terms of whether they are pakistani or indian JI7 Oct 2015 #142

Think you missed the sarcasm. brush Dec 2015 #602

Look at what you said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #160

Did he accuse you of that? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #210

If this pathetically hilarious subthread doesn't illustrate how DESPERATELY DU needs minorities Number23 Oct 2015 #228

I didn't see where 1Strong did this to that poster JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #230

There would be no Dem party right now without the support of the groups that the OP is savaging Number23 Oct 2015 #233

Mixing up Queen Latifah with Sister Souljah DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #245

i could accept it if they would at least listen JI7 Oct 2015 #273

Amazing, ain't it? zappaman Nov 2015 #515

The fact is he STILL mixed them up.......... George II Oct 2015 #98

Ouch. blackspade Oct 2015 #150

But, really, only those trying to make some down-low racial point. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #161

Very true. blackspade Oct 2015 #235

Hehehe AngryAmish Oct 2015 #364

condescension Dem2 Oct 2015 #31

That's not the word I was thinking of; but, it'll do. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #37

I thought "racist bullshit"...but that's just me Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #109

Yeah ... a whole lot closer to what I was thinking; but, take care ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #162

Yep! It's racist bullshit. brush Oct 2015 #193

I believe you mean Sister Souljah DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #4

Then you would be complicit on electing the person not suited for the job Joey Joe Joe Oct 2015 #8

I couldn't disagree with you more and I would literally... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #25

While I don't agree with you, I am glad you got your Fawke Em Oct 2015 #59

Thank you. That was frustrating. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #60

I saw that you had wondered if you were hacked. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #63

Same thing happened to me Weds evening. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #153

... SidDithers Oct 2015 #80

I see what you did there~ nt sheshe2 Oct 2015 #127

Are you impuning my Mom's musical ear? Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #351

I Relied On Google... My Bad... WillyT Oct 2015 #15

Nothing shows a distrust in... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #43

LOL betsuni Oct 2015 #96

good one treestar Oct 2015 #171

Ok, laughing out loud at work.... Can't stop. yardwork Oct 2015 #388

Did the same massive corporation tell you how to misspell tishaLA Oct 2015 #143

A lot of people misspelled Sister Soulja(h)'s name too... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #178

Questioning if POC or LGBTQ.... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #6

Also, remember in 1992 jfern Oct 2015 #7

Great Point... WillyT Oct 2015 #16

And remember back in 1758, when Ray Ray kicked that puppy? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #18

Win shenmue Oct 2015 #83

Really. I like you a lot but there are a lot of human beings who tried Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #101

I agree with your sentiment Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #138

This is all in the context of ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #159

Clinton got a twofer: executing a cognitively disabled person proved he was 'tough on crime' AND KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #556

I remember that well... Punkingal Nov 2015 #558

+1 treestar Oct 2015 #174

And speaking of digging up the past ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #202

I sure do reddread Oct 2015 #284

Yes, that is part of the problem of her having so much baggage to carry with her while campaigning. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #580

I'm not a HRC supporter; but, I'll give the question(s) a shot ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #9

maybe they appreciate the actual legislative support Hillary has actually provided bigtree Oct 2015 #10

Actually Bernie was arrested during a civil rights protest in the 60's. JRLeft Oct 2015 #12

that's fine for the 60's bigtree Oct 2015 #20

The point is he's always supported black people. JRLeft Oct 2015 #23

my point is to the post bigtree Oct 2015 #34

More ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #42

More. In another post... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #121

How about his support for the 1994 crime bill, and guns? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #40

He voted for the crime bill because of the Violence Against Women Act and ban on assault weapons: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #74

Unless they were ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #119

So were thousands of others. okasha Oct 2015 #103

... and that entitles him to what?! tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #241

Dammit ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #24

he said 'black lives matter' bigtree Oct 2015 #38

But only after someone getting in his face about it ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #48

What's wrong with that? cui bono Oct 2015 #134

so you're prepared to tell me I shouldn't take my skin color into consideration when I vote? bigtree Oct 2015 #199

Well, would you vote for Ben Carson if you are AA? Clarence Thomas? cui bono Oct 2015 #248

can you read? bigtree Oct 2015 #255

Sanders was white splaining, yes PoC should take the color of THEIR skin into consideration when uponit7771 Oct 2015 #242

As I asked the other poster, would you vote for Ben Carson or Clarence Thomas? cui bono Oct 2015 #249

No, their policies and stances are removed from ... MY... skin. Sanders said ... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #260

Okay, if you look at it that way I totally agree. cui bono Oct 2015 #265

I think it is in reference to this interview: JTFrog Oct 2015 #443

Bernie marched and fought and got arrested for civil rights decades ago cui bono Oct 2015 #133

you can't support this baiting thread and then play dumb when defenses and responses are offered bigtree Oct 2015 #220

I'm not playing dumb. I'm sick of people trying to frame Bernie as weak on civil rights issues when cui bono Oct 2015 #250

try responding to something I've actually said. bigtree Oct 2015 #253

I did. cui bono Oct 2015 #264

Can you clue me into why you can't help yourself with these attacks on Hillary? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #13

Easy Peasy... Don't Want Her As Commander-In-Chief... WillyT Oct 2015 #19

Fine ... But why use Black folks and the LGBT community to spin your dislike. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #26

Because division is kinda their thing. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #39

No No No ... only Black people are allowed to be divisive. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #67

Didn't you once claim that 50% of Stormfront members supported Bernie? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #79

Hmm. There are a lot of people on here getting thrown PatrickforO Oct 2015 #90

I thought there was a resolute disavowal of "identity politics" tishaLA Oct 2015 #145

Identity politics always struck me for code that the folks who are being identified... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #182

It depends on who being identified and who is doing the identifying. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #512

Jury Results, Janey~ Cha Oct 2015 #172

Lol~ sheshe2 Oct 2015 #365

They've certainly done a good job of dividing DU brush Oct 2015 #196

Not even close Andy823 Oct 2015 #269

Yep! Agreed. brush Oct 2015 #271

The majority of Bernie supporters are not like that Marrah_G Oct 2015 #406

Agreed! It is getting very old! n/t Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #107

Why not. Many others on DU do so, often. yardwork Oct 2015 #390

I can only address the posts I see and one at a time. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #394

It gets old, doesn't it? we can do it Oct 2015 #416

Yes. It does ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #418

Well i do and I proudly marched with her in the pride parade and I am thrilled hrmjustin Oct 2015 #27

"thrilled she is FINALLY for marriage equality" Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #71

I have spoken on this and I as a gay man trust her. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #73

The op directly questioned... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #154

Yep. Kind of outed himself. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #180

Yeah, it sure as hell took her long enough. kath Oct 2015 #211

Neither Hillary nor Bernie will roll back gay rights. yardwork Oct 2015 #391

It's not like I'm considering voting for a Republican. Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #395

Hey! You're on the second stage of grief! 'Denial' is 1, and you're on 'Anger.' wyldwolf Oct 2015 #17

Curious... Everybody Ignores The Original Question. - Try Giving It A Shot... If You Can... WillyT Oct 2015 #22

See Post #9. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #29

True... But Tha Was My Question... Evolution, Political Expediency, Weathervane... WillyT Oct 2015 #44

Concern trolling. okasha Oct 2015 #105

It's pathetic. I wish it would stop. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #114

And witless into the bargain. okasha Oct 2015 #118

Constant alarums and excursions, you'd think one would tire of it eventually. betsuni Oct 2015 #122

Really. okasha Oct 2015 #126

You should quote Aeschylus to our friend DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #32

Yep! Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #488

They're all bloody politicians even the Hope and Change one. nc4bo Oct 2015 #21

Stuff: Most people on welfare are not black, most black people are not on welfare. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #28

I have seen you address him several times and he never responds. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #55

That's because I remember his posts and I'm onto his game and it's not about Bernie at all Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #72

The end result of a lot of his threads is he believes some folks have more agency than others. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #76

Thank you for the links. zappaman Oct 2015 #82

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #243

Bill isn't running. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #30

you support Elizabeth warren and her past is much worse JI7 Oct 2015 #33

Here's an idea: Lets hear from an African American! JaneyVee Oct 2015 #36

ask Queen Latifah herself. she seems just fine with Clinton JI7 Oct 2015 #41

oops! bigtree Oct 2015 #47

LOL OMG GusBob Oct 2015 #49

Bill Clinton on the Not Sister Souljah Show: Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #57

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #237

why do most Straight White Men vote RepublIcan ? JI7 Oct 2015 #45

Straight white male Democrats don't vote Republican, sorry AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #444

WillyT this isn't helping anyone, please delete. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #46

Thanks for this Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #51

No problem, this isn't what Bernie would want us to do. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #52

Thank you, bmus Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #113

You're more than welcome, Chitown Kev. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #116

+1 n/t tammywammy Oct 2015 #192

You already know this, but it bears repeating... Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #128

Aw... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #132

"As Bernie supporters I hope we're better than this." zappaman Oct 2015 #137

And you're here to do what? Insult those of us who are better? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #141

Lol! zappaman Oct 2015 #200

Nicely said, beam mcar Oct 2015 #176

Thanks, mcar. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #343

+1 geardaddy Oct 2015 #203

This OP is really opening up some eyes. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #226

I've come to expect this uponit7771 Oct 2015 #244

You are utterly incorrect....this is helping someone. msanthrope Oct 2015 #280

So true. yardwork Oct 2015 #459

You have it....nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #460

Thank you lovemydog Oct 2015 #341

You're welcome, lovemydog. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #342

LOL, no worries. lovemydog Oct 2015 #345

Just got done watching the game, thank dog for dvrs. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #346

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #50

My Only Concern With HRC Now Is If She Can Win In 2016 NonMetro Oct 2015 #54

Most Honest Response... WillyT Oct 2015 #62

Maybe this is why Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #58

<---Lesbian here Aerows Oct 2015 #61

WillyT demands minority groups give him answers ... now!!!! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #64

I wonder if the OP will even realize that the welfare reference is offensive. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #77

I doubt the OP has the necessary ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #164

Congrats! zappaman Oct 2015 #65

Who the fuck is "you"? Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #66

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #246

I'm not supporting her ibegurpard Oct 2015 #68

Was Not Doing That... I Think/Hope... But I Was Wonder How The Hillary Hive Thrives... WillyT Oct 2015 #75

Bernie Sanders cant get elected so who cares what he supported 50 years ago? moobu2 Oct 2015 #69

A black man couldn't be elected as President in 2008 Aerows Oct 2015 #92

oh, just a member of CORE and SNCC (while HRC supported that KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #557

It's a "Black Thing", WillyT. You wouldn't understand. Anansi1171 Oct 2015 #78

No... Explain That... WillyT Oct 2015 #81

Au Contraire, Mon Ami. Anansi1171 Oct 2015 #86

I'd have to say her record beats his in that very important historical context. ancianita Oct 2015 #87

And I Remember Going To Protests Against The Welfare Refom Thing... WillyT Oct 2015 #89

you keep bringing up welfare and ignore that black people improved Financially during the Clinton JI7 Oct 2015 #99

I'm inserting this for other readers since you don't egange. Those of you straight folks who Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #286

His pro Wall Street policies was the downfall too. JRLeft Oct 2015 #100

Then you were living in a bubble. TM99 Oct 2015 #148

You're not the only one 840high Oct 2015 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #218

Why would LGBT folks support a candidate Aerows Oct 2015 #95

Those who believe *that* show themselves pathetically ignorant of history. tblue37 Oct 2015 #147

Not at all sure about that brush Oct 2015 #198

What's your opinion? nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #530

I love Bernie. But remember. Bernie wasn't president in that historical context. AND there's so much ancianita Oct 2015 #84

I am a huge Bernie supporter, but I don't think that this post is fair... WIProgressive88 Oct 2015 #85

Oh, and as for black voters, the Clinton administration included a number of tblue37 Oct 2015 #149

What an utterly tone deaf post. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #91

Feel better? stevil Oct 2015 #93

you are one of the Popes Biggest Fans on this Site, even using him to attack Obama and other JI7 Oct 2015 #94

You are one of my favorite people! Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #108

thanks JI7 Oct 2015 #111

Never a road to low for you to take, is there Willy? nt Codeine Oct 2015 #97

You hit the trifecta - this is racist, sexist, and homophobic. Congratulations Willy! George II Oct 2015 #102

Ahem. Aerows Oct 2015 #110

Excuse me? George II Oct 2015 #124

Not a single word of their post told anyone how they should feel. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #270

Precisely - and not a single word to either try to explain where that came from. George II Oct 2015 #356

+1 JoePhilly Oct 2015 #166

Indeed. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #339

You're not helping. joshcryer Oct 2015 #104

And people actually recced this vile post. Lisa D Oct 2015 #112

WillyT laid it out Aerows Oct 2015 #117

A lot of people think that Democracy is the ability to own the latest iPhone. truedelphi Jan 2016 #652

Yeah, but look at WHO'S doing the rec'ing. Number23 Oct 2015 #229

I'm a gay woman who voted for Obama twice despite his views on gay marriage. cwydro Oct 2015 #115

Hey you. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #125

This particular OP sure is. cwydro Oct 2015 #175

A supporter who makes the candidate look bad is in fact a detractor. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #201

If Mr. THANG here was so effin' fierce with Google Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #130

Another reason some people like Sanders, but not his supporters. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #123

I agree, however Andy823 Oct 2015 #268

I wish this OP would be deleted Prism Oct 2015 #129

Forget about Queen "Latifa", what about Public Enemy??? zappaman Oct 2015 #135

lol Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #144

Hilarious tishaLA Oct 2015 #146

Ha! Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #194

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #238

That's funny as hell rbrnmw Oct 2015 #447

I'm more of a Bob Marley fan myself... zappaman Oct 2015 #448

Yep I loved when he left the Commodores rbrnmw Oct 2015 #450

The Commodores? zappaman Oct 2015 #453

I think you are thinking about this guy Marvin Gaye rbrnmw Oct 2015 #454

Oh, right... zappaman Oct 2015 #462

Mine is Purple Rain rbrnmw Oct 2015 #463

No, I think Purple Rain is by Rhianna... zappaman Oct 2015 #464

Oops you are right rbrnmw Oct 2015 #465

I am a big Etta James fan rbrnmw Oct 2015 #466

Me too, but I think that's Jay Zee! zappaman Oct 2015 #470

This is Jay Zee but I was wrong it wasn't Etta that was Snoop Dogg rbrnmw Oct 2015 #476

Snoopy Dog kicks ass! zappaman Nov 2015 #500

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #613

Just delete this jfern Oct 2015 #136

Because it's America RandySF Oct 2015 #140

Why do you need a group of people MyNameGoesHere Oct 2015 #151

This post is racist and vile. You should delete it. leftofcool Oct 2015 #152

Morning bump. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #155

racist stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #156

Why would they? You don't seem to be interested in the answers already provided in this thread...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #157

Bill Clinton's wife has taken black and gay people hostage, infected them with Stockholm Syndrome? betsuni Oct 2015 #158

Yeap and remember we're all on welfare so the OPs welfare reference was aimed at us uponit7771 Oct 2015 #247

Yes, sounds exactly like a Republican. betsuni Oct 2015 #251

Since this is still stinking up DU, let us all look back at WillyT's former calls for kindness Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #163

Great response. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #167

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #170

Thank you. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #173

This, entirely mcar Oct 2015 #177

Excellent post. n/t JTFrog Oct 2015 #181

Thank you for finding that gollygee Oct 2015 #214

Whoa.. uponit7771 Oct 2015 #239

Hammer meet nail. Hekate Oct 2015 #278

This post and most every one lovemydog Oct 2015 #344

racist bullshit eom GusBob Oct 2015 #165

This is the most loathsome OP I've seen on DU... Spazito Oct 2015 #168

Reminding people of Hillary's racism is *itself* racist. Or something. Romulox Oct 2015 #169

I'm a gay Bernie supporter, this OP is bigoted trash about Bill Clinton's actions which the OP Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #183

Why am I not surprised. JTFrog Oct 2015 #179

Let me just say I don't think the OP is a bad guy, just misguided. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #184

That is gracious Rose Siding Oct 2015 #216

Keep up the good work! Walk away Oct 2015 #186

I bit my tongue but i am ready to take a fifth hide because i think this is important. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #188

Thank you for being willing to take one for the team on the this JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #206

I don't know why anyone is suprised. The ENTIRE INTERNET has had a a front row seat to this Number23 Oct 2015 #227

And remember for the next time someone says "I've never seen anything like that here." betsuni Oct 2015 #254

You've got some cool nerve. Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #189

Wow. You couldn't drive people to Camp Clinton any faster if you tried. n/t gollygee Oct 2015 #190

Here is a reminder kick for you... JTFrog Oct 2015 #191

Delete this racist bullshit. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #195

Condesending and divisive. What a crap OP. bettyellen Oct 2015 #197

Maybe he didn't give it enough thought./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #655

Delete this op BooScout Oct 2015 #204

Man, you've been clued. randome Oct 2015 #205

Is there a point to this OP other than pissing people off? NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #207

WillyT, with posts like this, you've answered your own question... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #208

Finger-wagging "you people" posts tend to get a poor reception (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #209

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #212

I don't get why straight white people would vote for Hillary Clinton. Zorra Oct 2015 #213

On DADT and DOMA AJH032 Oct 2015 #215

If you want to hear outright lies about Hillary Clinton and anyone... Walk away Oct 2015 #219

'cause if there's one thing that shows you're THE champion of LGBTs and people of African MisterP Oct 2015 #217

Why the Africa reference? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #234

Where's your proof that LGBT people support Hillary? DemocraticWing Oct 2015 #221

No group owes any candidate their support LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #222

I like to pretend people who disagree with me have Stockholm Syndrome too.. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #224

The OP had little to do with Sanders. The OP had been posing these type of things JI7 Oct 2015 #225

No faster way to become a DU "darling" with a certain clique. And I'm sure it's just a coincidence Number23 Oct 2015 #231

Exactly Andy823 Oct 2015 #261

It has nothing to do about truth. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #296

WillyT, just because the propaganda seeking to divide the Democratic say that bs does not Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #232

Willy very good questions that could only be answered face to face . olddots Oct 2015 #236

I disagree that this racially condescending question is good, it's tone deaf at best and has been uponit7771 Oct 2015 #240

You've outdone youself, WillyT. MineralMan Oct 2015 #252

Yes Andy823 Oct 2015 #257

Don't look at me. Smarmie Doofus Oct 2015 #256

haha that sounds like her. m-lekktor Oct 2015 #258

Most African Americans and GLBT... MellowDem Oct 2015 #259

You got any sources to back up the claim that most AA's are conservative?! tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #262

Here... MellowDem Oct 2015 #279

Non - whites doses not mean black... Hispanics are a larger population than Black's in America uponit7771 Oct 2015 #285

And I never said it... MellowDem Oct 2015 #330

I don't see any proof of this in the article or poll that most blacks tend to lean conservative... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #332

It's not that "most blacks" do... MellowDem Oct 2015 #340

Exactly how do you define conservative? Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #272

+1 Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #277

Conservative relative to DU... MellowDem Oct 2015 #282

Defining any ideology is a bit subjective... MellowDem Oct 2015 #281

But you're defining Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #295

Most everyone does that... MellowDem Oct 2015 #328

"Only the nice white progressive vote the right way for the right reason..." Number23 Oct 2015 #292

Damn. You Just Went on a Full on Ignorant Angry White Male Racist Homophobic Rant lib87 Oct 2015 #263

Stockholm Syndrome lovemydog Oct 2015 #266

Seems the OP has totally abandoned Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #267

Obliviously on he sails ... nt betsuni Oct 2015 #275

I kicked it up JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #303

Why would people support the 1% and hope for social justice? It's a great question. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #274

That WOULD be a great question, had that been the question that was asked. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #297

Why would minority persons feel connection to majority members who oppress us just because those Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #301

Excuse me, but I'm not defending the OP, here. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #310

I have been supporting Bernie for this election, not Liz Warren whom I do not trust nor care for. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #320

Fine. And Elizabeth isn't running. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #397

I read it as the question asked. The establishment has been holding down advances in rhett o rick Oct 2015 #306

Truth be told, some in the "1%" were for gay rights and pushed for them Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #300

Nope... onpatrol98 Oct 2015 #276

I relaize that you weren't seriously suggesting that LGBTQ or AA voters suffer from Vattel Oct 2015 #283

For the third time I don't believe the seminal poster is a 'bad guy'. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #287

Latent paternalism or blatant paternalism? kwassa Oct 2015 #355

Dude...Shut.The.Cheney.Up. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #288

A truly puke-worthy OP. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #289

In case you missed it... SidDithers Oct 2015 #290

and fucked the program formerly known as "Welfare". ...because that is how you see "those" Person 2713 Oct 2015 #291

Black folk are like other folk. They want jobs. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #293

Plenty have jobs, their parents had jobs and they have never needed to be on welfare Person 2713 Oct 2015 #294

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #298

Willy T, I must say that this is one of the most ignorant and hateful lovemydog Oct 2015 #299

Well said JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #302

Well said...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #322

We shouldn't judge the OP by his worst moment./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #304

If this were the only example Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #305

It's not the first time, so we will judge away. But thanks! bettyellen Oct 2015 #313

if it was just a one time thing you may have a point, but this has been going on for a long time JI7 Oct 2015 #315

why do poor whites vote republicon? maybe they have stockholm syndrome too noiretextatique Oct 2015 #307

I'm poor, white, 40+ and I dont even need one hand to count the number of times I have cstanleytech Oct 2015 #308

I agree! nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #309

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #311

people recced this POS? UGH. bettyellen Oct 2015 #312

daily kick uponit7771 Oct 2015 #314

kicking before I retire tonight. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #316

kicking again Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #326

Here's another Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #331

Being gay, I do support Bernie. Fearless Oct 2015 #317

Time for another Trip Down Memory Lane W/ Willy: Feb 2015 "we're called Reagan Democrats..." Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #318

Thank you. The horrible gift that keeps on giving, that refuses to not keep on giving. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #319

When he started his crusade months ago, I tried to remind him that he'd advocated for Republicans Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #323

I wonder why it's easy to be nice to Republicans but not to Democrats. betsuni Oct 2015 #335

without even clicking on the link you provided m-lekktor Oct 2015 #321

Mostly he was shouting at LGBT for daring to so much as ask about her past. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #324

kick. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #325

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #327

Oh, come on, lay off WillyT! He spends a lot of time in taverns, so he says. randome Oct 2015 #329

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #333

I am gay, and support Bernie markpkessinger Oct 2015 #334

Kick Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #336

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #337

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #338

let me give this a little push Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #347

Kicking this bullshit up. (sorry, no passive-aggressive emojis) nt betsuni Oct 2015 #348

To bump and preserve. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #349

... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #350

Kicking this thread because it needs to be read again and again! leftofcool Oct 2015 #352

I got Stockholm Syndrome after a traumatic afternoon lost in Ikea...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #353

I'm Black, and couldn't care less about what Bill said about Sistah Souljah firebrand80 Oct 2015 #354

Let's kick for visibility! zappaman Oct 2015 #357

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #358

Kicking this garbage. zappaman Oct 2015 #359

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #360

Hey, you kicked it right after I did! zappaman Oct 2015 #361

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #362

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #363

this will stay at or near the top of the page Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #366

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #367

Good night, everyone. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #368

Good morning! zappaman Oct 2015 #371

Kick to expose racism and homopohobia...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #369

Hard, swift kick. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #370

this entire thread deserves a swift kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #372

Is this the type of 'hard, swift kick' everyone's talking about? randome Oct 2015 #373

whistle Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #374

Is that the same as a kick? zappaman Oct 2015 #375

well, I'm kicking up dog-whistles Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #376

Are you still kicking? zappaman Oct 2015 #377

and Bernie is the cure for SS, I guess...but you know what...well...Miss Ross said it best Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #378

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #379

This kick is 2 hours old. zappaman Oct 2015 #380

All this talk about Stockholm, now I have Smorgasbord Syndrome. betsuni Oct 2015 #381

...kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #382

Kick. Agschmid Oct 2015 #383

I see this thread is still going strong Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #384

Yup. zappaman Oct 2015 #385

IBTL? bravenak Oct 2015 #386

I hope not.....this is too delicious. Nt Sheepshank Oct 2015 #417

This thread is still around? zappaman Oct 2015 #387

Thanks for setting me "straight!" yardwork Oct 2015 #389

Be sure to pick up your complimentary "I'm the right KIND of non-heterosexual" t-shirt... randome Oct 2015 #393

Lol! The right kind.... Grateful. I'm grateful to be set straight. yardwork Oct 2015 #396

Also, another incorrect statement in your OP: yardwork Oct 2015 #392

Kick for the weekend! zappaman Oct 2015 #398

Ah geez... really? Bucky Oct 2015 #399

Stockholm Syndrome - Muse - Glastonbury 2004 Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #400

I don't think Willy will ever live this down./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #401

It's rediculous... Agschmid Oct 2015 #404

I Wouldn't Count On It... WillyT Oct 2015 #413

Yes, we count on you for broken record threads -- always the same thing over and over. betsuni Oct 2015 #414

I think there were and still are more important issues than a Sistah Soulja moment. kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #402

Posting Privileges Revoked-Kelliekat44...note the reasons for the PPR: Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #574

Kick. Agschmid Oct 2015 #403

It is possible to support your candidate without tearing down another democrat. Marrah_G Oct 2015 #405

Apparently not. zappaman Oct 2015 #407

discussion needs to be seen uponit7771 Oct 2015 #408

Remember, kids: evolution is BAD. betsuni Oct 2015 #409

I'm not kicking this. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #410

Yeah, I dunno about this portlander23 Oct 2015 #411

It's Saturday. zappaman Oct 2015 #412

Wow, it's Sunday already? zappaman Oct 2015 #415

this thread needs a swift kick. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #419

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #420

Kick so this can sit next to the OP's latest. yardwork Oct 2015 #421

Me too. Agschmid Oct 2015 #425

Kick . yardwork Oct 2015 #422

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Oct 2015 #423

KICK Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #424

You'll get a hide for that, I'd edit it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #426

No...let "them" hide it. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #428

I got a hide for pointing out a post existed tonight... Agschmid Oct 2015 #429

Agree! zappaman Oct 2015 #436

It's a good thing I've followed Bernie's career for the last 26 years. RandySF Oct 2015 #427

When Obama was running his supporters were often very negative toward LGBT and we had no Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #433

Exactly. Lots of trolls. yardwork Oct 2015 #437

True. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #438

Indeed. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #525

IBTSD? bravenak Oct 2015 #430

final kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #431

BTW kick betsuni Oct 2015 #432

Kick RandySF Oct 2015 #434

A new week! zappaman Oct 2015 #435

Kick to expose racism and homopohobia...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #439

ick. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #440

The OP continues to post baiting OP's aimed at minority issues. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #441

I have a new signature line Sheepshank Oct 2015 #442

Hey!! bravenak Oct 2015 #451

A kick for all the sad souls with Stockholm Syndrome. zappaman Oct 2015 #445

Many of my neighbors apparently have Stockholm Syndrome and I had no clue! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #446

You still have it incorrect. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #449

kick..... Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #452

I just noticed that after the many revisions it is still incorrect. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #455

Kick because the moon is full. betsuni Oct 2015 #456

I keep looking in this thread in the hope that Wily T will engage the accusations against him. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2015 #457

kick. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #458

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #461

it is in my best interest (at the present time) Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #467

and...time for bed Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #468

Kick because night cheese makes me gassy. betsuni Oct 2015 #469

Kick. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #471

needs an evening kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #472

kickety-kick-kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #473

last kick of the night (morning) Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #474

I get a kick... betsuni Oct 2015 #475

. WillyT Oct 2015 #480

time for a late morning kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #477

Have a great weekend! zappaman Oct 2015 #478

Kick. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #479

Thanks For Helping Me Break All The Rules... And The Records... WillyT Oct 2015 #481

Since you said records, here's a 45 with your name on it... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #498

LOL !!! - Kick... WillyT Oct 2015 #482

True colors n/t JTFrog Oct 2015 #487

Right? zappaman Oct 2015 #489

:evilgrin: WillyT Oct 2015 #483

Last Kick From Me... WillyT Oct 2015 #484

G'Night... WillyT Oct 2015 #485

A spider spinning his web for the unwary fly. The blood is the life ... . betsuni Oct 2015 #486

I didn't realize he was kicking his own thread ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #490

Spooky Halloween kick! zappaman Nov 2015 #491

I was at the tavern and they told me this thread is still being kicked. betsuni Nov 2015 #492

Stockholm Syndrome would be a great name for a tavern! zappaman Nov 2015 #493

kick...just 'cause Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #494

Kick to highlight racism and homopohobia on DU...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #495

Kick! zappaman Nov 2015 #496

All Saints' Day kick betsuni Nov 2015 #497

Why hasn't the seminal poster corrected the spelling of these two women's names DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #499

Not sure why. zappaman Nov 2015 #504

If somebody spells my name wrong after I corrected him or her I start to believe it's intentional. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #506

Well, they claimed to have used the "google" zappaman Nov 2015 #507

Hmmm DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #508

Well, I'm sure the poster has their reasons. zappaman Nov 2015 #509

They also don't look remotely alike unless... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #510

As I said up thread... zappaman Nov 2015 #511

I almost forgot to kick this. I think we can get it to a thousand!! And beyond!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #501

You still havent answered why you are so intent on NOT loving Bernie randys1 Nov 2015 #502

I will never tell! bravenak Nov 2015 #503

Ick! Hekate Nov 2015 #520

. JTFrog Nov 2015 #505

kick Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #513

So, are you satisfied with the answers? zappaman Nov 2015 #514

I'm neither AA nor gay, but if I were one or both, I would be offended by your condescension. Beacool Nov 2015 #517

Kick to save you the trouble of kicking it yourself. zappaman Nov 2015 #518

kick Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #519

Playoffs?! lovemydog Nov 2015 #521

Classic. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #534

Evening kick. JTFrog Nov 2015 #522

I join you! zappaman Nov 2015 #523

Ok. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #524

Gay here - and I just don't trust her. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #526

Oh look, this racist piece of shit is still out here. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #527

Kicked for massive proud eternal stupidity. betsuni Nov 2015 #528

Kick. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #529

Oh well...may as well kick it Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #531

Might as well, lovemydog Nov 2015 #538

Seems like you got some good answers. zappaman Nov 2015 #532

Indeed. nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #533

Or maybe not... zappaman Nov 2015 #535

The fact that this thread exists is a stain on DU. Metric System Nov 2015 #536

WillyT had plenty of opportunities to delete it. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #544

Sister Souljah and Queen Latifah are still spelled incorrectly. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #537

May.As.Well. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #539

May as well...what? zappaman Nov 2015 #540

Kick it, of course Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #541

Doh! zappaman Nov 2015 #542

Sister Souljah was a race-baiting POS Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #543

The OP is still open and still incredibly offensive to multiple groups of people. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #545

OnEdit: Sister Soulja, Not Queen Latifa. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #546

Still floored by this. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #547

let me kick this m-f'en thread R-A-T now Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #548

Me too!! bravenak Nov 2015 #550

Hola!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #549

Why does this misbegotten thread still exist? MineralMan Nov 2015 #551

Yet DU returns to business and this thread is back up, too. Yike. nt Hekate Dec 2015 #615

Kick...and I ain't lettin' this off the hook Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #552

Kick... SidDithers Nov 2015 #553

Man, that's some shit. Ain't it WillyT? Android3.14 Nov 2015 #554

Totally sincere "apology" now available here:... SidDithers Nov 2015 #555

I love a good doubling down! zappaman Nov 2015 #559

Especially when it also exposed another poster Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #560

Translation: "how can you people be so stupid as to not support MY candidate?" brooklynite Nov 2015 #561

Exactly! zappaman Nov 2015 #562

Time for another kick... SidDithers Nov 2015 #563

Morning kick in response to the latest bit of nonsense...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #564

Thanks For All The Kicks, Guys !!! - Record-Breaking !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #567

If anyone thought your many MLK threads were genuine... SidDithers Nov 2015 #568

Yup. zappaman Nov 2015 #569

Time for a new kick. leftofcool Nov 2015 #565

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Nov 2015 #566

And BTW, kick for cluelessness. betsuni Nov 2015 #570

Cluelessness... SidDithers Nov 2015 #576

I don't agree. zappaman Nov 2015 #577

Yes, you are right. It's deliberate. He knows what generates those sweet sweet clicks. betsuni Dec 2015 #584

Still up? I better go find another MLK article to disabuse folks of these notions. bravenak Nov 2015 #571

Moar "My best friend is (fill in the minority)!!!111!!! You ALWAYS haz their back! betsuni Nov 2015 #572

Cannot believe this is still up bravenak Nov 2015 #575

Right? zappaman Dec 2015 #579

That's because some people Skidmore Dec 2015 #608

Kicking for the Norman Rockwellness of it all. Skidmore Nov 2015 #573

Kick. zappaman Nov 2015 #578

I won't be turned away from Sanders because of idiotic posts by his supporters. randome Dec 2015 #581

Well, I think we'd see a lot of excitement like... zappaman Dec 2015 #582

In case you missed it... SidDithers Dec 2015 #583

Kicking in light of yet another MLK thread from the seminal poster...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #585

DUs resident MLK expert! zappaman Dec 2015 #586

Kicking this up a notch! leftofcool Dec 2015 #587

For your grandaughter! bravenak Dec 2015 #588

And my four great nieces! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #590

He really should delete this. bravenak Dec 2015 #593

He absolutely should. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #594

Sad. I strongly dislike everybody who recd this nightmare bravenak Dec 2015 #595

I can't imagine why anyone would if they had read it and understood the implications. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #596

They lack integrity. bravenak Dec 2015 #597

IMO, the repetition is pointless. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #599

Gawd, I know. bravenak Dec 2015 #600

I remember that, too. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #604

Very damn revealing. bravenak Dec 2015 #606

That is EXACTLY what it is... randys1 Dec 2015 #601

They know it too. bravenak Dec 2015 #603

True. zappaman Dec 2015 #607

Kick -- it's always something. betsuni Dec 2015 #589

Here's a suggestion... brooklynite Dec 2015 #591

Or maybe don't ask it in such a fucking insulting way. zappaman Dec 2015 #592

My own reason - as a gay man. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #598

There was no danger of DOMA being a constitutional amendment. That was a lie. merrily Dec 2015 #605

Well thank you much for those links! I wish that Lamda Legal in New Orleans, Lafayette, Amimnoch Dec 2015 #618

Yes, you are quoting the lie to me. There was no danger. If nothing else, read the wiki. merrily Dec 2015 #619

Thank you for having lived the history, & ty for not letting others rewrite that history Hekate Dec 2015 #616

That was an amazing 1st hand read of the trials the gay military people had to go through b4 DADT Sheepshank Dec 2015 #625

So the OP created yet another MLK thread....and linked to a far right fascist website.... Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #609

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #611

Uggggh. n/t JTFrog Dec 2015 #612

Shocked. Shocked I am...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #614

I think this thread is giving me Stockholm Syndrome... Hekate Dec 2015 #617

Kick redux. betsuni Dec 2015 #610

It is racist to assume that the most important issue to African Americans is welfare Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #620

I haven't given this a swift kick Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #621

So this racist bullshit stays up, hunh? Digital Puppy Dec 2015 #622

Kick. JTFrog Dec 2015 #623

kick Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #624

She seems more in tune with their interests HassleCat Dec 2015 #626

A kick for the holidays! emulatorloo Dec 2015 #627

Kick NCTraveler Dec 2015 #628

Stopping by to check out the rec commend list. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #629

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Dec 2015 #630

kick Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #631

Think the op has been clued in? nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #633

Kickety. nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #632

. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #634

Here NCTraveler Dec 2015 #635

wow NCTraveler Jan 2016 #636

Still needs a clue n/t Tanuki Jan 2016 #637

Still wonderin' huh? nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #638

This OP got 47 recs... that's just sad... so sad uponit7771 Jan 2016 #639

I like to see it as enlightening. Read all the related OPs since in light of this one. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #640

Thank you for saying it... SoapBox Jan 2016 #641

It's Weird SoapBox... For Those I ACTUALLY Hurt, I Am Sorry... And Tried to Explain Myself... WillyT Jan 2016 #642

The truth hurts sometimes. Amazing that they keep kicking the truth despite the pain it causes them Live and Learn Jan 2016 #643

Willy, as another Sanders supporter, I beg you... Ken Burch Jan 2016 #644

Please See Post #642... Two Posts Above... WillyT Jan 2016 #645

Lest we forget. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #646

Here is the latest breakdown LexVegas Jan 2016 #647

Kick. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #648

kick. n/t JTFrog Jan 2016 #649

Based on many threads posted today, I think this one deserves a refresher nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #650

This thread lives on in infamy. Metric System Jan 2016 #651

I'm gay and have never supported her. LoveIsNow Jan 2016 #653

Can we please spell Sister Soulja(h) and Queen Latifa(h) right. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #654

Kick. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #656

Kick Skidmore Jan 2016 #657

+1 Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #658

Bernie struggled with minorities in Iowa: Clinton won non-white caucus-goers 58% to 34% Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #659

Wow. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #660