2016 Postmortem

WIProgressive88

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85. I am a huge Bernie supporter, but I don't think that this post is fair...

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:20 PM

Oct 2015

Other than a couple minor quips with some of his past votes on gun control, I think that Bernie is the best candidate on pretty much all of the issues. But there are clearly members of minority communities who face everyday non-economic based oppression who do not feel that he is speaking enough to their concerns. I do believe that Bernie will be a great president in terms of social and racial justice, but as a straight white dude, it is not my place to tell our African American and LGBTQ brothers and sisters which candidate will best address the issues affecting their communities. They have the life experiences and knowledge to make that judgment; I do not.

No candidate is entitled to anyone's vote. If you read the African American group on this board, there are several posters who are undecided, but I guarantee posts like this push those voters further and further away from Bernie. And I don't blame them. If someone attributed my voting preferences to Stockholm Syndrome rather than a rational thought process based on my life experiences, I would be less inclined to support his or her candidate as well. We should be reaching out to people, listening to their concerns, and respectfully make the case for why we feel Bernie should be the next President of the United States; we should not be chastising people because of which candidate they choose or choose not to support.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] WillyT Oct 2015 OP

I'm black and I do not support her for other reasons. Her Wall Street ties. JRLeft Oct 2015 #1

Same here tblue Oct 2015 #131

I say Willy T is typing what the propaganda says, and I am offended by this divisive title. Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #185

Respect - Your position has mine, Tblue. Hortensis Oct 2015 #223

Thank you. redwitch Nov 2015 #516

I suspect that if we polled senior citizens the support level would be similar but no one has Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #187

LGBT in the Twin Cities overwhelmingly support Bernie Kalidurga Oct 2015 #2

Queen Latifah? I don't think you have that right. Anyway...this reeks of condescension. Metric System Oct 2015 #3

Yeah he shitted on Sistah Soulja. JRLeft Oct 2015 #5

Well ... They all look alike. It's hard to tell them apart. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #11

Don't we all look alike? JRLeft Oct 2015 #14

Well. Come on ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #35

Dude, I'm a white woman and I know the difference. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #53

What are you talking about? Perhaps, you might re-read the sub-thread. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #70

You accused someone of thinking all black people look alike. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #106

pakistanis and indians are the same race JI7 Oct 2015 #120

They still have different features. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #139

not in terms of whether they are pakistani or indian JI7 Oct 2015 #142

Think you missed the sarcasm. brush Dec 2015 #602

Look at what you said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #160

Did he accuse you of that? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #210

If this pathetically hilarious subthread doesn't illustrate how DESPERATELY DU needs minorities Number23 Oct 2015 #228

I didn't see where 1Strong did this to that poster JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #230

There would be no Dem party right now without the support of the groups that the OP is savaging Number23 Oct 2015 #233

Mixing up Queen Latifah with Sister Souljah DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #245

i could accept it if they would at least listen JI7 Oct 2015 #273

Amazing, ain't it? zappaman Nov 2015 #515

The fact is he STILL mixed them up.......... George II Oct 2015 #98

Ouch. blackspade Oct 2015 #150

But, really, only those trying to make some down-low racial point. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #161

Very true. blackspade Oct 2015 #235

Hehehe AngryAmish Oct 2015 #364

condescension Dem2 Oct 2015 #31

That's not the word I was thinking of; but, it'll do. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #37

I thought "racist bullshit"...but that's just me Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #109

Yeah ... a whole lot closer to what I was thinking; but, take care ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #162

Yep! It's racist bullshit. brush Oct 2015 #193

I believe you mean Sister Souljah DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #4

Then you would be complicit on electing the person not suited for the job Joey Joe Joe Oct 2015 #8

I couldn't disagree with you more and I would literally... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #25

While I don't agree with you, I am glad you got your Fawke Em Oct 2015 #59

Thank you. That was frustrating. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #60

I saw that you had wondered if you were hacked. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #63

Same thing happened to me Weds evening. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #153

... SidDithers Oct 2015 #80

I see what you did there~ nt sheshe2 Oct 2015 #127

Are you impuning my Mom's musical ear? Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #351

I Relied On Google... My Bad... WillyT Oct 2015 #15

Nothing shows a distrust in... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #43

LOL betsuni Oct 2015 #96

good one treestar Oct 2015 #171

Ok, laughing out loud at work.... Can't stop. yardwork Oct 2015 #388

Did the same massive corporation tell you how to misspell tishaLA Oct 2015 #143

A lot of people misspelled Sister Soulja(h)'s name too... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #178

Questioning if POC or LGBTQ.... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #6

Also, remember in 1992 jfern Oct 2015 #7

Great Point... WillyT Oct 2015 #16

And remember back in 1758, when Ray Ray kicked that puppy? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #18

Win shenmue Oct 2015 #83

Really. I like you a lot but there are a lot of human beings who tried Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #101

I agree with your sentiment Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #138

This is all in the context of ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #159

Clinton got a twofer: executing a cognitively disabled person proved he was 'tough on crime' AND KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #556

I remember that well... Punkingal Nov 2015 #558

+1 treestar Oct 2015 #174

And speaking of digging up the past ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #202

I sure do reddread Oct 2015 #284

Yes, that is part of the problem of her having so much baggage to carry with her while campaigning. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #580

I'm not a HRC supporter; but, I'll give the question(s) a shot ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #9

maybe they appreciate the actual legislative support Hillary has actually provided bigtree Oct 2015 #10

Actually Bernie was arrested during a civil rights protest in the 60's. JRLeft Oct 2015 #12

that's fine for the 60's bigtree Oct 2015 #20

The point is he's always supported black people. JRLeft Oct 2015 #23

my point is to the post bigtree Oct 2015 #34

More ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #42

More. In another post... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #121

How about his support for the 1994 crime bill, and guns? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #40

He voted for the crime bill because of the Violence Against Women Act and ban on assault weapons: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #74

Unless they were ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #119

So were thousands of others. okasha Oct 2015 #103

... and that entitles him to what?! tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #241

Dammit ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #24

he said 'black lives matter' bigtree Oct 2015 #38

But only after someone getting in his face about it ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #48

What's wrong with that? cui bono Oct 2015 #134

so you're prepared to tell me I shouldn't take my skin color into consideration when I vote? bigtree Oct 2015 #199

Well, would you vote for Ben Carson if you are AA? Clarence Thomas? cui bono Oct 2015 #248

can you read? bigtree Oct 2015 #255

Sanders was white splaining, yes PoC should take the color of THEIR skin into consideration when uponit7771 Oct 2015 #242

As I asked the other poster, would you vote for Ben Carson or Clarence Thomas? cui bono Oct 2015 #249

No, their policies and stances are removed from ... MY... skin. Sanders said ... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #260

Okay, if you look at it that way I totally agree. cui bono Oct 2015 #265

I think it is in reference to this interview: JTFrog Oct 2015 #443

Bernie marched and fought and got arrested for civil rights decades ago cui bono Oct 2015 #133

you can't support this baiting thread and then play dumb when defenses and responses are offered bigtree Oct 2015 #220

I'm not playing dumb. I'm sick of people trying to frame Bernie as weak on civil rights issues when cui bono Oct 2015 #250

try responding to something I've actually said. bigtree Oct 2015 #253

I did. cui bono Oct 2015 #264

Can you clue me into why you can't help yourself with these attacks on Hillary? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #13

Easy Peasy... Don't Want Her As Commander-In-Chief... WillyT Oct 2015 #19

Fine ... But why use Black folks and the LGBT community to spin your dislike. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #26

Because division is kinda their thing. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #39

No No No ... only Black people are allowed to be divisive. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #67

Didn't you once claim that 50% of Stormfront members supported Bernie? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #79

Hmm. There are a lot of people on here getting thrown PatrickforO Oct 2015 #90

I thought there was a resolute disavowal of "identity politics" tishaLA Oct 2015 #145

Identity politics always struck me for code that the folks who are being identified... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #182

It depends on who being identified and who is doing the identifying. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #512

Jury Results, Janey~ Cha Oct 2015 #172

Lol~ sheshe2 Oct 2015 #365

They've certainly done a good job of dividing DU brush Oct 2015 #196

Not even close Andy823 Oct 2015 #269

Yep! Agreed. brush Oct 2015 #271

The majority of Bernie supporters are not like that Marrah_G Oct 2015 #406

Agreed! It is getting very old! n/t Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #107

Why not. Many others on DU do so, often. yardwork Oct 2015 #390

I can only address the posts I see and one at a time. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #394

It gets old, doesn't it? we can do it Oct 2015 #416

Yes. It does ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #418

Well i do and I proudly marched with her in the pride parade and I am thrilled hrmjustin Oct 2015 #27

"thrilled she is FINALLY for marriage equality" Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #71

I have spoken on this and I as a gay man trust her. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #73

The op directly questioned... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #154

Yep. Kind of outed himself. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #180

Yeah, it sure as hell took her long enough. kath Oct 2015 #211

Neither Hillary nor Bernie will roll back gay rights. yardwork Oct 2015 #391

It's not like I'm considering voting for a Republican. Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #395

Hey! You're on the second stage of grief! 'Denial' is 1, and you're on 'Anger.' wyldwolf Oct 2015 #17

Curious... Everybody Ignores The Original Question. - Try Giving It A Shot... If You Can... WillyT Oct 2015 #22

See Post #9. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #29

True... But Tha Was My Question... Evolution, Political Expediency, Weathervane... WillyT Oct 2015 #44

Concern trolling. okasha Oct 2015 #105

It's pathetic. I wish it would stop. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #114

And witless into the bargain. okasha Oct 2015 #118

Constant alarums and excursions, you'd think one would tire of it eventually. betsuni Oct 2015 #122

Really. okasha Oct 2015 #126

You should quote Aeschylus to our friend DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #32

Yep! Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #488

They're all bloody politicians even the Hope and Change one. nc4bo Oct 2015 #21

Stuff: Most people on welfare are not black, most black people are not on welfare. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #28

I have seen you address him several times and he never responds. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #55

That's because I remember his posts and I'm onto his game and it's not about Bernie at all Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #72

The end result of a lot of his threads is he believes some folks have more agency than others. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #76

Thank you for the links. zappaman Oct 2015 #82

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #243

Bill isn't running. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #30

you support Elizabeth warren and her past is much worse JI7 Oct 2015 #33

Here's an idea: Lets hear from an African American! JaneyVee Oct 2015 #36

ask Queen Latifah herself. she seems just fine with Clinton JI7 Oct 2015 #41

oops! bigtree Oct 2015 #47

LOL OMG GusBob Oct 2015 #49

Bill Clinton on the Not Sister Souljah Show: Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #57

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #237

why do most Straight White Men vote RepublIcan ? JI7 Oct 2015 #45

Straight white male Democrats don't vote Republican, sorry AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #444

WillyT this isn't helping anyone, please delete. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #46

Thanks for this Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #51

No problem, this isn't what Bernie would want us to do. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #52

Thank you, bmus Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #113

You're more than welcome, Chitown Kev. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #116

+1 n/t tammywammy Oct 2015 #192

You already know this, but it bears repeating... Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #128

Aw... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #132

"As Bernie supporters I hope we're better than this." zappaman Oct 2015 #137

And you're here to do what? Insult those of us who are better? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #141

Lol! zappaman Oct 2015 #200

Nicely said, beam mcar Oct 2015 #176

Thanks, mcar. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #343

+1 geardaddy Oct 2015 #203

This OP is really opening up some eyes. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #226

I've come to expect this uponit7771 Oct 2015 #244

You are utterly incorrect....this is helping someone. msanthrope Oct 2015 #280

So true. yardwork Oct 2015 #459

You have it....nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #460

Thank you lovemydog Oct 2015 #341

You're welcome, lovemydog. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #342

LOL, no worries. lovemydog Oct 2015 #345

Just got done watching the game, thank dog for dvrs. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #346

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #50

My Only Concern With HRC Now Is If She Can Win In 2016 NonMetro Oct 2015 #54

Most Honest Response... WillyT Oct 2015 #62

Maybe this is why Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #58

<---Lesbian here Aerows Oct 2015 #61

WillyT demands minority groups give him answers ... now!!!! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #64

I wonder if the OP will even realize that the welfare reference is offensive. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #77

I doubt the OP has the necessary ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #164

Congrats! zappaman Oct 2015 #65

Who the fuck is "you"? Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #66

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #246

I'm not supporting her ibegurpard Oct 2015 #68

Was Not Doing That... I Think/Hope... But I Was Wonder How The Hillary Hive Thrives... WillyT Oct 2015 #75

Bernie Sanders cant get elected so who cares what he supported 50 years ago? moobu2 Oct 2015 #69

A black man couldn't be elected as President in 2008 Aerows Oct 2015 #92

oh, just a member of CORE and SNCC (while HRC supported that KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #557

It's a "Black Thing", WillyT. You wouldn't understand. Anansi1171 Oct 2015 #78

No... Explain That... WillyT Oct 2015 #81

Au Contraire, Mon Ami. Anansi1171 Oct 2015 #86

I'd have to say her record beats his in that very important historical context. ancianita Oct 2015 #87

And I Remember Going To Protests Against The Welfare Refom Thing... WillyT Oct 2015 #89

you keep bringing up welfare and ignore that black people improved Financially during the Clinton JI7 Oct 2015 #99

I'm inserting this for other readers since you don't egange. Those of you straight folks who Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #286

His pro Wall Street policies was the downfall too. JRLeft Oct 2015 #100

Then you were living in a bubble. TM99 Oct 2015 #148

You're not the only one 840high Oct 2015 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #218

Why would LGBT folks support a candidate Aerows Oct 2015 #95

Those who believe *that* show themselves pathetically ignorant of history. tblue37 Oct 2015 #147

Not at all sure about that brush Oct 2015 #198

What's your opinion? nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #530

I love Bernie. But remember. Bernie wasn't president in that historical context. AND there's so much ancianita Oct 2015 #84

I am a huge Bernie supporter, but I don't think that this post is fair... WIProgressive88 Oct 2015 #85

Oh, and as for black voters, the Clinton administration included a number of tblue37 Oct 2015 #149

What an utterly tone deaf post. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #91

Feel better? stevil Oct 2015 #93

you are one of the Popes Biggest Fans on this Site, even using him to attack Obama and other JI7 Oct 2015 #94

You are one of my favorite people! Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #108

thanks JI7 Oct 2015 #111

Never a road to low for you to take, is there Willy? nt Codeine Oct 2015 #97

You hit the trifecta - this is racist, sexist, and homophobic. Congratulations Willy! George II Oct 2015 #102

Ahem. Aerows Oct 2015 #110

Excuse me? George II Oct 2015 #124

Not a single word of their post told anyone how they should feel. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #270

Precisely - and not a single word to either try to explain where that came from. George II Oct 2015 #356

+1 JoePhilly Oct 2015 #166

Indeed. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #339

You're not helping. joshcryer Oct 2015 #104

And people actually recced this vile post. Lisa D Oct 2015 #112

WillyT laid it out Aerows Oct 2015 #117

A lot of people think that Democracy is the ability to own the latest iPhone. truedelphi Jan 2016 #652

Yeah, but look at WHO'S doing the rec'ing. Number23 Oct 2015 #229

I'm a gay woman who voted for Obama twice despite his views on gay marriage. cwydro Oct 2015 #115

Hey you. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #125

This particular OP sure is. cwydro Oct 2015 #175

A supporter who makes the candidate look bad is in fact a detractor. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #201

If Mr. THANG here was so effin' fierce with Google Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #130

Another reason some people like Sanders, but not his supporters. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #123

I agree, however Andy823 Oct 2015 #268

I wish this OP would be deleted Prism Oct 2015 #129

Forget about Queen "Latifa", what about Public Enemy??? zappaman Oct 2015 #135

lol Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #144

Hilarious tishaLA Oct 2015 #146

Ha! Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #194

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #238

That's funny as hell rbrnmw Oct 2015 #447

I'm more of a Bob Marley fan myself... zappaman Oct 2015 #448

Yep I loved when he left the Commodores rbrnmw Oct 2015 #450

The Commodores? zappaman Oct 2015 #453

I think you are thinking about this guy Marvin Gaye rbrnmw Oct 2015 #454

Oh, right... zappaman Oct 2015 #462

Mine is Purple Rain rbrnmw Oct 2015 #463

No, I think Purple Rain is by Rhianna... zappaman Oct 2015 #464

Oops you are right rbrnmw Oct 2015 #465

I am a big Etta James fan rbrnmw Oct 2015 #466

Me too, but I think that's Jay Zee! zappaman Oct 2015 #470

This is Jay Zee but I was wrong it wasn't Etta that was Snoop Dogg rbrnmw Oct 2015 #476

Snoopy Dog kicks ass! zappaman Nov 2015 #500

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #613

Just delete this jfern Oct 2015 #136

Because it's America RandySF Oct 2015 #140

Why do you need a group of people MyNameGoesHere Oct 2015 #151

This post is racist and vile. You should delete it. leftofcool Oct 2015 #152

Morning bump. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #155

racist stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #156

Why would they? You don't seem to be interested in the answers already provided in this thread...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #157

Bill Clinton's wife has taken black and gay people hostage, infected them with Stockholm Syndrome? betsuni Oct 2015 #158

Yeap and remember we're all on welfare so the OPs welfare reference was aimed at us uponit7771 Oct 2015 #247

Yes, sounds exactly like a Republican. betsuni Oct 2015 #251

Since this is still stinking up DU, let us all look back at WillyT's former calls for kindness Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #163

Great response. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #167

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #170

Thank you. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #173

This, entirely mcar Oct 2015 #177

Excellent post. n/t JTFrog Oct 2015 #181

Thank you for finding that gollygee Oct 2015 #214

Whoa.. uponit7771 Oct 2015 #239

Hammer meet nail. Hekate Oct 2015 #278

This post and most every one lovemydog Oct 2015 #344

racist bullshit eom GusBob Oct 2015 #165

This is the most loathsome OP I've seen on DU... Spazito Oct 2015 #168

Reminding people of Hillary's racism is *itself* racist. Or something. Romulox Oct 2015 #169

I'm a gay Bernie supporter, this OP is bigoted trash about Bill Clinton's actions which the OP Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #183

Why am I not surprised. JTFrog Oct 2015 #179

Let me just say I don't think the OP is a bad guy, just misguided. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #184

That is gracious Rose Siding Oct 2015 #216

Keep up the good work! Walk away Oct 2015 #186

I bit my tongue but i am ready to take a fifth hide because i think this is important. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #188

Thank you for being willing to take one for the team on the this JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #206

I don't know why anyone is suprised. The ENTIRE INTERNET has had a a front row seat to this Number23 Oct 2015 #227

And remember for the next time someone says "I've never seen anything like that here." betsuni Oct 2015 #254

You've got some cool nerve. Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #189

Wow. You couldn't drive people to Camp Clinton any faster if you tried. n/t gollygee Oct 2015 #190

Here is a reminder kick for you... JTFrog Oct 2015 #191

Delete this racist bullshit. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #195

Condesending and divisive. What a crap OP. bettyellen Oct 2015 #197

Maybe he didn't give it enough thought./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #655

Delete this op BooScout Oct 2015 #204

Man, you've been clued. randome Oct 2015 #205

Is there a point to this OP other than pissing people off? NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #207

WillyT, with posts like this, you've answered your own question... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #208

Finger-wagging "you people" posts tend to get a poor reception (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #209

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #212

I don't get why straight white people would vote for Hillary Clinton. Zorra Oct 2015 #213

On DADT and DOMA AJH032 Oct 2015 #215

If you want to hear outright lies about Hillary Clinton and anyone... Walk away Oct 2015 #219

'cause if there's one thing that shows you're THE champion of LGBTs and people of African MisterP Oct 2015 #217

Why the Africa reference? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #234

Where's your proof that LGBT people support Hillary? DemocraticWing Oct 2015 #221

No group owes any candidate their support LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #222

I like to pretend people who disagree with me have Stockholm Syndrome too.. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #224

The OP had little to do with Sanders. The OP had been posing these type of things JI7 Oct 2015 #225

No faster way to become a DU "darling" with a certain clique. And I'm sure it's just a coincidence Number23 Oct 2015 #231

Exactly Andy823 Oct 2015 #261

It has nothing to do about truth. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #296

WillyT, just because the propaganda seeking to divide the Democratic say that bs does not Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #232

Willy very good questions that could only be answered face to face . olddots Oct 2015 #236

I disagree that this racially condescending question is good, it's tone deaf at best and has been uponit7771 Oct 2015 #240

You've outdone youself, WillyT. MineralMan Oct 2015 #252

Yes Andy823 Oct 2015 #257

Don't look at me. Smarmie Doofus Oct 2015 #256

haha that sounds like her. m-lekktor Oct 2015 #258

Most African Americans and GLBT... MellowDem Oct 2015 #259

You got any sources to back up the claim that most AA's are conservative?! tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #262

Here... MellowDem Oct 2015 #279

Non - whites doses not mean black... Hispanics are a larger population than Black's in America uponit7771 Oct 2015 #285

And I never said it... MellowDem Oct 2015 #330

I don't see any proof of this in the article or poll that most blacks tend to lean conservative... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #332

It's not that "most blacks" do... MellowDem Oct 2015 #340

Exactly how do you define conservative? Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #272

+1 Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #277

Conservative relative to DU... MellowDem Oct 2015 #282

Defining any ideology is a bit subjective... MellowDem Oct 2015 #281

But you're defining Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #295

Most everyone does that... MellowDem Oct 2015 #328

"Only the nice white progressive vote the right way for the right reason..." Number23 Oct 2015 #292

Damn. You Just Went on a Full on Ignorant Angry White Male Racist Homophobic Rant lib87 Oct 2015 #263

Stockholm Syndrome lovemydog Oct 2015 #266

Seems the OP has totally abandoned Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #267

Obliviously on he sails ... nt betsuni Oct 2015 #275

I kicked it up JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #303

Why would people support the 1% and hope for social justice? It's a great question. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #274

That WOULD be a great question, had that been the question that was asked. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #297

Why would minority persons feel connection to majority members who oppress us just because those Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #301

Excuse me, but I'm not defending the OP, here. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #310

I have been supporting Bernie for this election, not Liz Warren whom I do not trust nor care for. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #320

Fine. And Elizabeth isn't running. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #397

I read it as the question asked. The establishment has been holding down advances in rhett o rick Oct 2015 #306

Truth be told, some in the "1%" were for gay rights and pushed for them Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #300

Nope... onpatrol98 Oct 2015 #276

I relaize that you weren't seriously suggesting that LGBTQ or AA voters suffer from Vattel Oct 2015 #283

For the third time I don't believe the seminal poster is a 'bad guy'. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #287

Latent paternalism or blatant paternalism? kwassa Oct 2015 #355

Dude...Shut.The.Cheney.Up. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #288

A truly puke-worthy OP. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #289

In case you missed it... SidDithers Oct 2015 #290

and fucked the program formerly known as "Welfare". ...because that is how you see "those" Person 2713 Oct 2015 #291

Black folk are like other folk. They want jobs. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #293

Plenty have jobs, their parents had jobs and they have never needed to be on welfare Person 2713 Oct 2015 #294

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #298

Willy T, I must say that this is one of the most ignorant and hateful lovemydog Oct 2015 #299

Well said JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #302

Well said...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #322

We shouldn't judge the OP by his worst moment./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #304

If this were the only example Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #305

It's not the first time, so we will judge away. But thanks! bettyellen Oct 2015 #313

if it was just a one time thing you may have a point, but this has been going on for a long time JI7 Oct 2015 #315

why do poor whites vote republicon? maybe they have stockholm syndrome too noiretextatique Oct 2015 #307

I'm poor, white, 40+ and I dont even need one hand to count the number of times I have cstanleytech Oct 2015 #308

I agree! nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #309

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #311

people recced this POS? UGH. bettyellen Oct 2015 #312

daily kick uponit7771 Oct 2015 #314

kicking before I retire tonight. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #316

kicking again Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #326

Here's another Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #331

Being gay, I do support Bernie. Fearless Oct 2015 #317

Time for another Trip Down Memory Lane W/ Willy: Feb 2015 "we're called Reagan Democrats..." Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #318

Thank you. The horrible gift that keeps on giving, that refuses to not keep on giving. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #319

When he started his crusade months ago, I tried to remind him that he'd advocated for Republicans Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #323

I wonder why it's easy to be nice to Republicans but not to Democrats. betsuni Oct 2015 #335

without even clicking on the link you provided m-lekktor Oct 2015 #321

Mostly he was shouting at LGBT for daring to so much as ask about her past. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #324

kick. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #325

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #327

Oh, come on, lay off WillyT! He spends a lot of time in taverns, so he says. randome Oct 2015 #329

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #333

I am gay, and support Bernie markpkessinger Oct 2015 #334

Kick Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #336

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #337

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #338

let me give this a little push Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #347

Kicking this bullshit up. (sorry, no passive-aggressive emojis) nt betsuni Oct 2015 #348

To bump and preserve. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #349

... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #350

Kicking this thread because it needs to be read again and again! leftofcool Oct 2015 #352

I got Stockholm Syndrome after a traumatic afternoon lost in Ikea...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #353

I'm Black, and couldn't care less about what Bill said about Sistah Souljah firebrand80 Oct 2015 #354

Let's kick for visibility! zappaman Oct 2015 #357

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #358

Kicking this garbage. zappaman Oct 2015 #359

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #360

Hey, you kicked it right after I did! zappaman Oct 2015 #361

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #362

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #363

this will stay at or near the top of the page Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #366

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #367

Good night, everyone. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #368

Good morning! zappaman Oct 2015 #371

Kick to expose racism and homopohobia...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #369

Hard, swift kick. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #370

this entire thread deserves a swift kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #372

Is this the type of 'hard, swift kick' everyone's talking about? randome Oct 2015 #373

whistle Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #374

Is that the same as a kick? zappaman Oct 2015 #375

well, I'm kicking up dog-whistles Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #376

Are you still kicking? zappaman Oct 2015 #377

and Bernie is the cure for SS, I guess...but you know what...well...Miss Ross said it best Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #378

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #379

This kick is 2 hours old. zappaman Oct 2015 #380

All this talk about Stockholm, now I have Smorgasbord Syndrome. betsuni Oct 2015 #381

...kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #382

Kick. Agschmid Oct 2015 #383

I see this thread is still going strong Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #384

Yup. zappaman Oct 2015 #385

IBTL? bravenak Oct 2015 #386

I hope not.....this is too delicious. Nt Sheepshank Oct 2015 #417

This thread is still around? zappaman Oct 2015 #387

Thanks for setting me "straight!" yardwork Oct 2015 #389

Be sure to pick up your complimentary "I'm the right KIND of non-heterosexual" t-shirt... randome Oct 2015 #393

Lol! The right kind.... Grateful. I'm grateful to be set straight. yardwork Oct 2015 #396

Also, another incorrect statement in your OP: yardwork Oct 2015 #392

Kick for the weekend! zappaman Oct 2015 #398

Ah geez... really? Bucky Oct 2015 #399

Stockholm Syndrome - Muse - Glastonbury 2004 Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #400

I don't think Willy will ever live this down./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #401

It's rediculous... Agschmid Oct 2015 #404

I Wouldn't Count On It... WillyT Oct 2015 #413

Yes, we count on you for broken record threads -- always the same thing over and over. betsuni Oct 2015 #414

I think there were and still are more important issues than a Sistah Soulja moment. kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #402

Posting Privileges Revoked-Kelliekat44...note the reasons for the PPR: Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #574

Kick. Agschmid Oct 2015 #403

It is possible to support your candidate without tearing down another democrat. Marrah_G Oct 2015 #405

Apparently not. zappaman Oct 2015 #407

discussion needs to be seen uponit7771 Oct 2015 #408

Remember, kids: evolution is BAD. betsuni Oct 2015 #409

I'm not kicking this. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #410

Yeah, I dunno about this portlander23 Oct 2015 #411

It's Saturday. zappaman Oct 2015 #412

Wow, it's Sunday already? zappaman Oct 2015 #415

this thread needs a swift kick. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #419

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #420

Kick so this can sit next to the OP's latest. yardwork Oct 2015 #421

Me too. Agschmid Oct 2015 #425

Kick . yardwork Oct 2015 #422

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Oct 2015 #423

KICK Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #424

You'll get a hide for that, I'd edit it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #426

No...let "them" hide it. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #428

I got a hide for pointing out a post existed tonight... Agschmid Oct 2015 #429

Agree! zappaman Oct 2015 #436

It's a good thing I've followed Bernie's career for the last 26 years. RandySF Oct 2015 #427

When Obama was running his supporters were often very negative toward LGBT and we had no Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #433

Exactly. Lots of trolls. yardwork Oct 2015 #437

True. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #438

Indeed. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #525

IBTSD? bravenak Oct 2015 #430

final kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #431

BTW kick betsuni Oct 2015 #432

Kick RandySF Oct 2015 #434

A new week! zappaman Oct 2015 #435

Kick to expose racism and homopohobia...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #439

ick. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #440

The OP continues to post baiting OP's aimed at minority issues. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #441

I have a new signature line Sheepshank Oct 2015 #442

Hey!! bravenak Oct 2015 #451

A kick for all the sad souls with Stockholm Syndrome. zappaman Oct 2015 #445

Many of my neighbors apparently have Stockholm Syndrome and I had no clue! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #446

You still have it incorrect. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #449

kick..... Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #452

I just noticed that after the many revisions it is still incorrect. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #455

Kick because the moon is full. betsuni Oct 2015 #456

I keep looking in this thread in the hope that Wily T will engage the accusations against him. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2015 #457

kick. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #458

kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #461

it is in my best interest (at the present time) Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #467

and...time for bed Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #468

Kick because night cheese makes me gassy. betsuni Oct 2015 #469

Kick. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #471

needs an evening kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #472

kickety-kick-kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #473

last kick of the night (morning) Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #474

I get a kick... betsuni Oct 2015 #475

. WillyT Oct 2015 #480

time for a late morning kick Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #477

Have a great weekend! zappaman Oct 2015 #478

Kick. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #479

Thanks For Helping Me Break All The Rules... And The Records... WillyT Oct 2015 #481

Since you said records, here's a 45 with your name on it... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #498

LOL !!! - Kick... WillyT Oct 2015 #482

True colors n/t JTFrog Oct 2015 #487

Right? zappaman Oct 2015 #489

:evilgrin: WillyT Oct 2015 #483

Last Kick From Me... WillyT Oct 2015 #484

G'Night... WillyT Oct 2015 #485

A spider spinning his web for the unwary fly. The blood is the life ... . betsuni Oct 2015 #486

I didn't realize he was kicking his own thread ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #490

Spooky Halloween kick! zappaman Nov 2015 #491

I was at the tavern and they told me this thread is still being kicked. betsuni Nov 2015 #492

Stockholm Syndrome would be a great name for a tavern! zappaman Nov 2015 #493

kick...just 'cause Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #494

Kick to highlight racism and homopohobia on DU...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #495

Kick! zappaman Nov 2015 #496

All Saints' Day kick betsuni Nov 2015 #497

Why hasn't the seminal poster corrected the spelling of these two women's names DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #499

Not sure why. zappaman Nov 2015 #504

If somebody spells my name wrong after I corrected him or her I start to believe it's intentional. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #506

Well, they claimed to have used the "google" zappaman Nov 2015 #507

Hmmm DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #508

Well, I'm sure the poster has their reasons. zappaman Nov 2015 #509

They also don't look remotely alike unless... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #510

As I said up thread... zappaman Nov 2015 #511

I almost forgot to kick this. I think we can get it to a thousand!! And beyond!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #501

You still havent answered why you are so intent on NOT loving Bernie randys1 Nov 2015 #502

I will never tell! bravenak Nov 2015 #503

Ick! Hekate Nov 2015 #520

. JTFrog Nov 2015 #505

kick Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #513

So, are you satisfied with the answers? zappaman Nov 2015 #514

I'm neither AA nor gay, but if I were one or both, I would be offended by your condescension. Beacool Nov 2015 #517

Kick to save you the trouble of kicking it yourself. zappaman Nov 2015 #518

kick Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #519

Playoffs?! lovemydog Nov 2015 #521

Classic. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #534

Evening kick. JTFrog Nov 2015 #522

I join you! zappaman Nov 2015 #523

Ok. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #524

Gay here - and I just don't trust her. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #526

Oh look, this racist piece of shit is still out here. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #527

Kicked for massive proud eternal stupidity. betsuni Nov 2015 #528

Kick. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #529

Oh well...may as well kick it Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #531

Might as well, lovemydog Nov 2015 #538

Seems like you got some good answers. zappaman Nov 2015 #532

Indeed. nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #533

Or maybe not... zappaman Nov 2015 #535

The fact that this thread exists is a stain on DU. Metric System Nov 2015 #536

WillyT had plenty of opportunities to delete it. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #544

Sister Souljah and Queen Latifah are still spelled incorrectly. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #537

May.As.Well. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #539

May as well...what? zappaman Nov 2015 #540

Kick it, of course Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #541

Doh! zappaman Nov 2015 #542

Sister Souljah was a race-baiting POS Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #543

The OP is still open and still incredibly offensive to multiple groups of people. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #545

OnEdit: Sister Soulja, Not Queen Latifa. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #546

Still floored by this. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #547

let me kick this m-f'en thread R-A-T now Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #548

Me too!! bravenak Nov 2015 #550

Hola!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #549

Why does this misbegotten thread still exist? MineralMan Nov 2015 #551

Yet DU returns to business and this thread is back up, too. Yike. nt Hekate Dec 2015 #615

Kick...and I ain't lettin' this off the hook Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #552

Kick... SidDithers Nov 2015 #553

Man, that's some shit. Ain't it WillyT? Android3.14 Nov 2015 #554

Totally sincere "apology" now available here:... SidDithers Nov 2015 #555

I love a good doubling down! zappaman Nov 2015 #559

Especially when it also exposed another poster Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #560

Translation: "how can you people be so stupid as to not support MY candidate?" brooklynite Nov 2015 #561

Exactly! zappaman Nov 2015 #562

Time for another kick... SidDithers Nov 2015 #563

Morning kick in response to the latest bit of nonsense...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #564

Thanks For All The Kicks, Guys !!! - Record-Breaking !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #567

If anyone thought your many MLK threads were genuine... SidDithers Nov 2015 #568

Yup. zappaman Nov 2015 #569

Time for a new kick. leftofcool Nov 2015 #565

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Nov 2015 #566

And BTW, kick for cluelessness. betsuni Nov 2015 #570

Cluelessness... SidDithers Nov 2015 #576

I don't agree. zappaman Nov 2015 #577

Yes, you are right. It's deliberate. He knows what generates those sweet sweet clicks. betsuni Dec 2015 #584

Still up? I better go find another MLK article to disabuse folks of these notions. bravenak Nov 2015 #571

Moar "My best friend is (fill in the minority)!!!111!!! You ALWAYS haz their back! betsuni Nov 2015 #572

Cannot believe this is still up bravenak Nov 2015 #575

Right? zappaman Dec 2015 #579

That's because some people Skidmore Dec 2015 #608

Kicking for the Norman Rockwellness of it all. Skidmore Nov 2015 #573

Kick. zappaman Nov 2015 #578

I won't be turned away from Sanders because of idiotic posts by his supporters. randome Dec 2015 #581

Well, I think we'd see a lot of excitement like... zappaman Dec 2015 #582

In case you missed it... SidDithers Dec 2015 #583

Kicking in light of yet another MLK thread from the seminal poster...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #585

DUs resident MLK expert! zappaman Dec 2015 #586

Kicking this up a notch! leftofcool Dec 2015 #587

For your grandaughter! bravenak Dec 2015 #588

And my four great nieces! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #590

He really should delete this. bravenak Dec 2015 #593

He absolutely should. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #594

Sad. I strongly dislike everybody who recd this nightmare bravenak Dec 2015 #595

I can't imagine why anyone would if they had read it and understood the implications. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #596

They lack integrity. bravenak Dec 2015 #597

IMO, the repetition is pointless. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #599

Gawd, I know. bravenak Dec 2015 #600

I remember that, too. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #604

Very damn revealing. bravenak Dec 2015 #606

That is EXACTLY what it is... randys1 Dec 2015 #601

They know it too. bravenak Dec 2015 #603

True. zappaman Dec 2015 #607

Kick -- it's always something. betsuni Dec 2015 #589

Here's a suggestion... brooklynite Dec 2015 #591

Or maybe don't ask it in such a fucking insulting way. zappaman Dec 2015 #592

My own reason - as a gay man. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #598

There was no danger of DOMA being a constitutional amendment. That was a lie. merrily Dec 2015 #605

Well thank you much for those links! I wish that Lamda Legal in New Orleans, Lafayette, Amimnoch Dec 2015 #618

Yes, you are quoting the lie to me. There was no danger. If nothing else, read the wiki. merrily Dec 2015 #619

Thank you for having lived the history, & ty for not letting others rewrite that history Hekate Dec 2015 #616

That was an amazing 1st hand read of the trials the gay military people had to go through b4 DADT Sheepshank Dec 2015 #625

So the OP created yet another MLK thread....and linked to a far right fascist website.... Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #609

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #611

Uggggh. n/t JTFrog Dec 2015 #612

Shocked. Shocked I am...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #614

I think this thread is giving me Stockholm Syndrome... Hekate Dec 2015 #617

Kick redux. betsuni Dec 2015 #610

It is racist to assume that the most important issue to African Americans is welfare Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #620

I haven't given this a swift kick Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #621

So this racist bullshit stays up, hunh? Digital Puppy Dec 2015 #622

Kick. JTFrog Dec 2015 #623

kick Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #624

She seems more in tune with their interests HassleCat Dec 2015 #626

A kick for the holidays! emulatorloo Dec 2015 #627

Kick NCTraveler Dec 2015 #628

Stopping by to check out the rec commend list. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #629

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Dec 2015 #630

kick Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #631

Think the op has been clued in? nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #633

Kickety. nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #632

. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #634

Here NCTraveler Dec 2015 #635

wow NCTraveler Jan 2016 #636

Still needs a clue n/t Tanuki Jan 2016 #637

Still wonderin' huh? nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #638

This OP got 47 recs... that's just sad... so sad uponit7771 Jan 2016 #639

I like to see it as enlightening. Read all the related OPs since in light of this one. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #640

Thank you for saying it... SoapBox Jan 2016 #641

It's Weird SoapBox... For Those I ACTUALLY Hurt, I Am Sorry... And Tried to Explain Myself... WillyT Jan 2016 #642

The truth hurts sometimes. Amazing that they keep kicking the truth despite the pain it causes them Live and Learn Jan 2016 #643

Willy, as another Sanders supporter, I beg you... Ken Burch Jan 2016 #644

Please See Post #642... Two Posts Above... WillyT Jan 2016 #645

Lest we forget. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #646

Here is the latest breakdown LexVegas Jan 2016 #647

Kick. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #648

kick. n/t JTFrog Jan 2016 #649

Based on many threads posted today, I think this one deserves a refresher nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #650

This thread lives on in infamy. Metric System Jan 2016 #651

I'm gay and have never supported her. LoveIsNow Jan 2016 #653

Can we please spell Sister Soulja(h) and Queen Latifa(h) right. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #654

Kick. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #656

Kick Skidmore Jan 2016 #657

+1 Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #658

Bernie struggled with minorities in Iowa: Clinton won non-white caucus-goers 58% to 34% Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #659

Wow. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #660