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Gothmog

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28. Here is another article on this lawsuit
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 07:07 PM
Feb 2014

I have bookmarked and read a couple of different climate science sites. I love going to the links and reading some of the scientific papers to see if I can still follow the math.

Here is an article that I saw on one of these sites (yes it is from Newsweek but it is still good) http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/01/31/change-legal-climate.html

That is, until maybe now, with the spinning potentially coming to a stop in the most unlikely of places - a Federal district court in Washington, D.C. There, a little-noticed lawsuit filed by one of the world's preeminent climatologists against a premiere conservative publication and a conservative think tank is moving forward, and both sides - absent dismissal or settlement - will have to put up or shut up.

The suit filed by Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University, claims that the National Review and the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) libeled him in a pair of articles in which they stated he had manipulated climate data and that the fraud had been covered up by his employer, which said its investigation concluded he had done nothing wrong. To make the point, the CEI writer, Rand Simberg, drew a comparison between Penn State's handling of abuse allegations against Jerry Sandusky - the university's longtime assistant football coach convicted as a child molester - and its review of Mann's work....

For months before those articles, Mann and other climatologists had been speaking among themselves about the need to start fighting back against the attacks on their work and their character. The science is on their side, they argue, and by not responding aggressively against the skeptics, they have allowed the discussion to become derailed. And if critics have slandered or libeled them, they shouldn't stand for it.

"If we don't step up to the plate, we leave a vacuum [for] those with an ax to grind," Mann says, while cautioning that he would not specifically address the lawsuit. Mann has no doubt some critics are advancing their positions honestly, but he believes that responding to bad-faith attacks on climatologists and their work is "a call to arms to our fellow scientists. We should not apologize for trying to inform that discussion."

It appears that the scientific community has decided not to take crap from the climate deniers and flat earthers any longer. I am happy about this development.

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This case survived the motion to dismiss Gothmog Jan 2014 #1
Thanks G~ Cha Jan 2014 #24
Republicans never know when to fucking shut up. They imagine themselves badasses TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #2
Actually, they imagine that they own EVERYTHING including the courts.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #10
DNA coding bpj62 Jan 2014 #20
How sad. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #3
Mark Steyn is a lunatic. stopbush Jan 2014 #4
He's also BobbyBoring Jan 2014 #7
Defamation hard to prove but not impossible. Publicly accusing a research scientist of fraud yellowcanine Jan 2014 #5
Mann is refusing to settle. He wants this to go to court and be heard. I think he wants case law and okaawhatever Jan 2014 #22
The Koch Brothers will bail them out. PeoViejo Jan 2014 #6
them or Shelly Adelson nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #8
lol at your sig line. rofl Cha Jan 2014 #25
The Kochs are 73 and 78. Sheldon Adelson is 80. tclambert Jan 2014 #13
Weeping not in the vocabulary saidsimplesimon Jan 2014 #16
I think that is a decent question davidpdx Jan 2014 #26
They almost certainly have staffs who will carry on their troglodyte traditions jmowreader Feb 2014 #29
I have high hopes for Mann's case. Aldo Leopold Jan 2014 #9
I agree, and I hope Mann doesn't settle out of court. I hope he takes it all Nay Jan 2014 #11
National Review is still around? Warpy Jan 2014 #12
My dim recollection is that the Review has been on life support for a long time... Orsino Jan 2014 #14
Oh, dear struggle4progress Jan 2014 #15
I hope he wins all of the "intellectual" property, copyrights and trademarks eggplant Jan 2014 #17
Sounds like the Koch brothers are going to have to provide a bunch more money . . . another_liberal Jan 2014 #18
I believe Mr. Buckley is turning over in his grave Jack Rabbit Jan 2014 #19
The individual defendant fired his legal counsel and is defending this case pro se Gothmog Jan 2014 #21
Eeeek! Hubris thy name is Mark Steyn.. Cha Jan 2014 #23
Darn - I'll have to go back to buying regular toilet paper lame54 Feb 2014 #27
Here is another article on this lawsuit Gothmog Feb 2014 #28
Possible Reason for attacking judge hobie Feb 2014 #30
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